QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:24 PM)
why not "invest" in EPF http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/member/membe...lf-contribution
ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4
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Feb 3 2014, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:24 PM) why not "invest" in EPF http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/member/membe...lf-contribution |
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Feb 3 2014, 03:35 PM
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Feb 3 2014, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:48 PM) My RE experience some 10+ years ago did not really encourage me to jump in again. Got a house and rented it out. Did a comparison with FD, this house and rental thing was only slightly better than FD. Became fearful of calls from the tenants, asking for repairs this and that. To me, not worth the hassles for the small FD delta. $ coming in via FD with me doing NOTHING, besides going to the banks. when u think the bubble is going to burst? BUT keeping my option open, may get in again after this RE bubble has burst. Ha. Cheerio. |
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Feb 3 2014, 06:05 PM
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Feb 4 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 4 2014, 11:45 AM) This my opinion on EPF. Take it only because of employer contribution. Otherwise it is not safe. Government love to tap in EPF to do mega project. And because it is a gov project, everyone will make money except gov. I am not saying EPF is bad, I got no evidence. But, EPF is a fund that everyone will "bersih"kan as soon they hit 55. Compare to ASB, which they can always attract new investor by promoting ASB loan, EPF is fund that will affected the most when their investors turn 55. Just my opinion. I somehow agree with your opinion, but it's depend on individual. Not all would withdraw their money, some may just keep it there. Not to be racist or hurt anyone feeling, not everyone are privilege to get ASB, & most of the other ASx fixed price funds are "sold-out" esp to non-bumi. The other way is to "invest" in EPF, but that's also with some risk. Logically speaking we actually cannot compare EPF with ASB but well this is Malaysia, we cannot blame anyone for doing so. Some may even compare TH with ASB & EPF |
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Feb 4 2014, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 4 2014, 03:30 PM) Agreed. The only reason we are calling these as "safe" haven investment as we got gov promise that for every unit they will buyback rm1. that's the reason why those fixed priced ASx fund are "sold-out". it's always rm1/unit But the way they manipulate the dividend to suit the gov needs make me wonder that these investment is way more manipulative than other vehicle. I also need to clarify, is there any NGO or bodies that monitor on how PNB declare dividend for ASB? Or they can call any number to suit to the local politics? I can't comment much on the dividend thing or their investment strategies. There's a lot of secretive & "hiding" of information. I've no prove, but heard people saying only. about the rm1/unit anytime, I suspect the actual "value" is more than rm1/unit, but then again I don't have any prove or solid financial information to back-up my claim. I don't think there's any NGO monitoring how PNB declare dividend for ASB, but I think SC have the "power" to look at the financials, but then again the detail report are kept secret |
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Feb 5 2014, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(defuser @ Feb 4 2014, 10:41 PM) ohh... then how to know got ppl sell or not ? don't worry & think too much. the main point is u have the passbook & it's much easier compare with those without one. need to be thankful to your dad randomly go counter and ask ? then if lucky then got ? okay, back to the point. If you go to ASNB branch, they can "see" how much units are available but by the time they exit & try to get the units it might already "taken" by others. So u need to be fast. when u have the time & money, just "try" to "add" more units. Normally 1st October the chance of getting the units are higher, but not guarantee u get the units because a lot of people also "trying" their luck on that day |
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Feb 5 2014, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2014, 03:57 PM) I'm not sifu, newbie in long learning process. okay, 1st Oct is Divvy "payment" @ reinvestment day for AS1M. Some may withdraw their money. Chance of getting a bit higher but then again a lot of people also "trying" on that day |
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Feb 5 2014, 06:04 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 06:30 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 07:03 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2014, 06:56 PM) In the past, roughly how much was available for ASW, ASM & AS1M on the dividend days? Yes, I know they will vary. Ball park figures will do. my guess around 1mil, but that's kinda "small" if all 1.7k branch/agents "try" at once. Confirm gone within minutes 10K 100K 1000K ??? My guess in the 100K range? |
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Feb 5 2014, 08:43 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 5 2014, 07:41 PM) My guess is up to 5% of declared dividend amt wow, that's a lot of $$$ Anyway, v dun know when withdrawal will take place. Gud example is ASB as unit holders can withdraw in Jan 14 from 2 to 5th or from 6 to 12th n so on... |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 6 2014, 04:53 PM) B prepare to pay 6% GST from 1/4/2015 onwards if u buy variable pricing products which impose upfront service charges NAV + Sale charges 5% + GST 6% = Final price/unit? correct http://gst.customs.gov.my/en/rg/SiteAssets...ober%202013.pdf |
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So guys, there's NO 6%GST for Fixed price ASx
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LTAT has given out a total dividends and bonuses at a rate of 16% or RM818.2mil for its financial year ended Dec 31, 2013 to its eligible members.
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