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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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davinz18
post Feb 3 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:24 PM)
Ha ha.

Just wondering whether there are other "vehicles" I can use.
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why not "invest" in EPF biggrin.gif

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/member/membe...lf-contribution
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post Feb 3 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:32 PM)
YES, doing that as well. Ha.
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post Feb 3 2014, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2014, 03:48 PM)
My RE experience some 10+ years ago did not really encourage me to jump in again. Got a house and rented it out. Did a comparison with FD, this house and rental thing was only slightly better than FD. Became fearful of calls from the tenants, asking for repairs this and that. To me, not worth the hassles for the small FD delta. $ coming in via FD with me doing NOTHING, besides going to the banks.

BUT keeping my option open, may get in again after this RE bubble has burst. Ha.

Cheerio.
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when u think the bubble is going to burst? hmm.gif
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post Feb 3 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 3 2014, 05:38 PM)
Not applicable to those who is gainfully employ
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post Feb 4 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 4 2014, 11:45 AM)
This my opinion on EPF. Take it only because of employer contribution. Otherwise it is not safe. Government love to tap in EPF to do mega project. And because it is a gov project, everyone will make money except gov. I am not saying EPF is bad, I got no evidence. But, EPF is a fund that everyone will "bersih"kan as soon they hit 55. Compare to ASB, which they can always attract new investor by promoting ASB loan, EPF is fund that will affected the most when their investors turn 55. Just my opinion.
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I somehow agree with your opinion, but it's depend on individual. Not all would withdraw their money, some may just keep it there. Not to be racist or hurt anyone feeling, not everyone are privilege to get ASB, & most of the other ASx fixed price funds are "sold-out" esp to non-bumi. The other way is to "invest" in EPF, but that's also with some risk. Logically speaking we actually cannot compare EPF with ASB but well this is Malaysia, we cannot blame anyone for doing so. Some may even compare TH with ASB & EPF shakehead.gif One must not forget EPF is open to all & are way bigger in Size than ASB or other ASx funds in Malaysia icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Feb 4 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 4 2014, 03:30 PM)
Agreed. The only reason we are calling these as "safe" haven investment as we got gov promise that for every unit they will buyback rm1.

But the way they manipulate the dividend to suit the gov needs make me wonder that these investment is way more manipulative than other vehicle.

I also need to clarify, is there any NGO or bodies that monitor on how PNB declare dividend for ASB? Or they can call any number to suit to the local politics?
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that's the reason why those fixed priced ASx fund are "sold-out". it's always rm1/unit icon_rolleyes.gif

I can't comment much on the dividend thing or their investment strategies. There's a lot of secretive & "hiding" of information. I've no prove, but heard people saying only.

about the rm1/unit anytime, I suspect the actual "value" is more than rm1/unit, but then again I don't have any prove or solid financial information to back-up my claim.

I don't think there's any NGO monitoring how PNB declare dividend for ASB, but I think SC have the "power" to look at the financials, but then again the detail report are kept secret hmm.gif
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QUOTE(defuser @ Feb 4 2014, 10:41 PM)
ohh... then how to know got ppl sell or not ?

randomly go counter and ask ? then if lucky then got ?
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don't worry & think too much. the main point is u have the passbook & it's much easier compare with those without one. need to be thankful to your dad nod.gif

okay, back to the point. If you go to ASNB branch, they can "see" how much units are available but by the time they exit & try to get the units it might already "taken" by others. So u need to be fast.

when u have the time & money, just "try" to "add" more units. Normally 1st October the chance of getting the units are higher, but not guarantee u get the units because a lot of people also "trying" their luck on that day nod.gif
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post Feb 5 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2014, 03:57 PM)
Sifu, why 1 Oct is a good day for buyers?

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I'm not sifu, newbie in long learning process. blush.gif

okay, 1st Oct is Divvy "payment" @ reinvestment day for AS1M. Some may withdraw their money. Chance of getting a bit higher but then again a lot of people also "trying" on that day nod.gif
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post Feb 5 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2014, 05:28 PM)
I see, I see.

I have already make a note of 3 dividend dates in my calender to remind myself.  Ha.
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if u realize, almost every Qtr got dividend "payment" from various ASx funds rclxms.gif too bad, we cannot buy all of them because u know I know why sad.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 5 2014, 06:11 PM)
B prepare to allocate 100% (815am to 1700pm) of yo time on d 3 dates
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Feb 5 2014, 06:48 PM)
you can always leave a stack of cash to the teller and let him / her do the job and give them a cut. that'll encourage them
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only work if u know the teller very2 closely, if not it's kinda dangerous / risky nod.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2014, 06:56 PM)
In the past, roughly how much was available for ASW, ASM & AS1M on the dividend days? Yes, I know they will vary. Ball park figures will do.

10K
100K
1000K
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My guess in the 100K range?
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my guess around 1mil, but that's kinda "small" if all 1.7k branch/agents "try" at once. Confirm gone within minutes nod.gif
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Feb 5 2014, 07:40 PM)
everyday you can see uncles aunties  siiting in asbn opis trying thier luck to top up wawasan 2020 or as1m
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 5 2014, 07:41 PM)
My guess is up to 5% of declared dividend amt
Anyway, v dun know when withdrawal will take place. Gud example is ASB as unit holders can withdraw in Jan 14 from 2 to 5th or from 6 to 12th n so on...
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wow, that's a lot of $$$ drool.gif I can't imagine how many people are "chasing" the available units on that day nod.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 6 2014, 04:53 PM)
B prepare to pay 6% GST from 1/4/2015 onwards if u buy variable pricing products which impose upfront service charges
http://gst.customs.gov.my/en/rg/SiteAssets...ober%202013.pdf
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NAV + Sale charges 5% + GST 6% = Final price/unit? correct hmm.gif


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post Feb 7 2014, 03:21 PM

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So guys, there's NO 6%GST for Fixed price ASx rclxms.gif Another reason why we should invest in fixed price fund drool.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 7 2014, 03:57 PM)
The correct word is no service charges
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Yeah. That's the part I love it so much, and fixed rm1/unit rclxms.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 05:59 PM

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LTAT has given out a total dividends and bonuses at a rate of 16% or RM818.2mil for its financial year ended Dec 31, 2013 to its eligible members.

such high dividend rate shocking.gif ASx funds all "lost" the battle to them smile.gif
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Feb 7 2014, 07:00 PM)
yes, but they only have a few billion under their belt while PNB have hundreds of billion to manage. It's a totally different level.
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only few Billion? shocking.gif I tot everyone working in Army compulsory need to contribute thus "size" bigger? No? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 7 2014, 07:35 PM)
Today I managed to top-up RM300 for ASM~wheeee~
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Really? shocking.gif For the past few years I'm "trying", didn't get any ASM units. Normally if got luck, only get AS1M & ASW2020 units smile.gif

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