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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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lucifah
post Jan 14 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(anz87 @ Jan 14 2014, 09:46 AM)
anyone... how do do pay zakat for asb ?
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u calculate your zakat based on the earnings and go to any jabatan agama islam that is responsible for tithe

in sarawak, we have baitulmal to collect tithe
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post Jan 16 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(my44 @ Jan 16 2014, 12:28 PM)
I contacted my cousin who is doing ASB loan for RHB. Basically as part of the job, she is able to query PNB on how much is the eligibility to top up your savings in ASB. Refer below for my account.

Pay attention to "Unit boleh dibeli" which in my case is 88,709. Does this mean my current balance is 200,000 - 88,709 = 111,291?

Jeng jeng jeng … hehehe

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it means that you can top up RM 88,709

or u have invested RM 111,291 into the account

your balance is not necessarily RM 111,291 as you have not included your accrued dividends

btw, org kaya spotted laugh.gif
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post Jan 16 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 16 2014, 02:53 PM)
ASB max only 200k (fresh), how can apply 300k or 400k?  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 16 2014, 03:01 PM)
Thats why i said something is not 'right'. Somehow i hear more n more ppl being able to top up beyond the 200K limit. Remember that i was asking about my case last week? I thought i had already maxed out the account. But when checked, the PNB agent said can pump in another RM 3,500 so i transfered immediately.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 16 2014, 03:10 PM)
yea, I remembered u case. even lucifah gave the statement pict where we can see how much can top-up.
 
Looks like there no "firm" policy regarding this 200k limit, anyone with the right "connection" & "know-how" can go beyond the limit  shakehead.gif

Wah, u said already max, still can top-up another 3.5k  rclxms.gif rclxub.gif
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u guys got confused again

your INITIAL INVESTMENT limit is RM 200,000. this has been and always will be the same

however, your LIMIT can be increased due to accrued dividend

thus, if you have RM 200k principal, and your accrued dividend for the past 5 yrs = rm 80k

thus your new LIMIT is RM 280k. you can withdraw all RM 280,000 and do ASB financing for that amount


just imagine the LIMIT = BASKET

you are given a 200k limit BASKET

your BASKET can GROW over time in so it can accomodate your principal + dividend

your BASKET size NEVER SHRINK

you can take out all your money and your BASKET SIZE REMAINS THE SAME

which explains why some people can take up to 400k ASB financing (this is the current ASB financing limit that i see they advertise, you can always ask for more, but it depends on the bank's approval)

hope everyone understands from this point onward

there is NO CONSPIRACY, NO PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT and NO INSIDER at all

if there is, i'd be the first to know. my client receives special personalized card on birthdays, new year, hari raya from PNB due to the account balance every year and yet still got 200k INITIAL INVESTMENT LIMIT
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post Jan 21 2014, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(tbheng @ Jan 21 2014, 07:10 PM)


A couple of quick questions:
Q1. Would I have higher chance to open new ASW/AS1M/ASM non-bumi acct in ASNB than agents?
Q2. Would ASNB and/or agents take personal/banker's cheque for top-up?

Hope to join you all in the ASx family soon.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Q1: yes
Q2: no. unless it's a cash cheque with the a/c payee only crossed out and it cashed out at the house bank
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post Jan 21 2014, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 21 2014, 08:50 PM)
about the 50k-100k "top-up" thing, she have someone "inside" to "help". if not u can't even get rm50 for non-bumi & mostly depend on units availability & some luck  cry.gif   

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she claimed to have to be able to top up that much

anyone can do that. i will reserve my judgement until i see some passbook balances / printouts




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post Jan 23 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Jan 23 2014, 03:11 PM)
ASW2020 for bumi ada meh?  hmm.gif
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yes. they are. not in large amount though. but still you can make deposits of 20 - 30k easily. 50k will need to see chance.
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post Jan 24 2014, 03:04 PM

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EPF withdrawal to ASB / ASM / ASW2020 / AS1M

don't be too hasty and too hopeful

there are many criteria you need to fulfill, and you can only w/draw a certain percentahe of Account 2 balance

your Acc1 shall not be touched

if you have a 100k EPF, expect to be able to w/draw maybe about 7- 10k for reinvestment.


http://www.asnb.com.my/english/epf.htm


edit: apparently, it is based on your Acc1 balance too. my bad.

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post Jan 24 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 24 2014, 03:06 PM)
Any indication of the EPF dividend announcement and the quantum?
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it will be lower than last year since no more GE wink.gif

just like all Amanah Saham trending
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post Jan 24 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 24 2014, 05:16 PM)
No i need a place to dump in 40K cash. Any ideas?
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to me? i'll let you have 6% and i'll enjoy the extra 0.7% in AS1M wink.gif
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post Jan 24 2014, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 24 2014, 07:26 PM)
I dont mean any disrespect. But this is not even near to the truth. You can withdraw 20% of the amount in account 1 that exceed your minimum account 1 balance(based on age).

On top of that u can withdraw this 20% every 3 months. So for example today u take this 20% then after 3 months from now u can withdraw another 20% and there is nothing stopping you from repeating the step as long as the minimum amount is 1000 ringgit. So theorethically u can withdraw until your axcount 1 left with the minimum amount(based on age) plus 5000 rinngit.

For eg. If your minmum amount is 30k.then u can withdraw every 3 months until you are left with 35k
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yes, you are quite correct - but still, you'd need your EPF balance is in the six figures and you are in the younger age bracket hmm.gif


anyway, for anyone interested in the EPF reinvestment scheme, apparently there's the new quantum table:

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/ms/news-list...DetailPage=true

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JADUAL : SIMPANAN ASAS KWSP (BERKUATKUASA JANUARI 2014)
Umur  Simpanan Asas (RM)  Umur  Simpanan Asas (RM)  Umur  Simpanan Asas (RM)
18  1,000  31  30,000  44  95,000
19  2,000  32  34,000  45  102,000
20  4,000  33  37,000  46  109,000
21  5,000  34  41,000  47  117,000
22  7,000  35  46,000  48  125,000
23  9,000  36  50,000  49  134,000
24  11,000  37  54,000  50  143,000
25  13,000  38  59,000  51  153,000
26  15,000  39  64,000  52  163,000
27  18,000  40  69,000  53  174,000
28  21,000  41  76,000  54  185,000
29  24,000  42  81,000  55  196,800
30  27,000  43  88,000


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post Jan 24 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 24 2014, 07:54 PM)
The table is self explainatory. That amount plus 5k. You can take it out  evry 3 months until your account 1 is left with the amount shown above plus 5k.

It is clearly stated 6 figure at 45. If you consider that as young. Than i dont know what to say.lol
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my eligibility only allows me to reinvest a paltry rm 8k sad.gif

for all the trouble, it's not worth the extra 1% per annum in dividend that i get vs EPF's return wink.gif
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post Jan 24 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 24 2014, 09:51 PM)
i m feeling lucky, got 20k in 2 days.
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notworthy.gif

u are very hardworking

btw, your quote a few weeks ago wink.gif

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 14 2013, 09:23 AM)
wow, getting RM10,000 and another RM50,000 in a day is really.....unbelievable!

And next few weeks can get it to RM100,000? I am shocked you can get that for nonbumi quota!
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post Jan 24 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 24 2014, 10:03 PM)
Yes the case is different for everyone. I am just putting this on table so people are aware of their option. According to my balance in account 1 and my age. I am eligible to put around 70k. I already invested around 13k 4 months ago , i will invest again whenevr i have time to go to pnb hq.
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20% of acc balance = 70k

you have at least 350k in your EPF acc 1

sweeettt... smile.gif


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post Jan 24 2014, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 24 2014, 10:12 PM)
Clearly you dont understand what i wrote. 20% each withdrawal .withdrawal can be done every 3 months. Please dont confuse other people that is reading the thread as well. I dont have 350k. I only have around 70k above my mandatory saving in account 1. I dont even touch half of 350k.
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let me get this straight:

you mean you can w/draw perpetually as long as your 20% is more than 1,000?

wow... learned something new notworthy.gif


lets's say Mr Ali is 30 yrs old and has 100k in his Acc1 balance (assume his balance is static at this moment)

his mandatory savings = 27k

His eligbility = 73k

thus, in

January he can w/draw 20% of 73k = RM 14.6k

in April, he can w/draw 20% of (73k - 14.6k) = 11.6k

and for the next 3 months:


Withdrawal
Jan 14 14,600
April 14 11,680
July 14 9,344
Sept 14 7,475
Jan 15 5,980
April 15 4,784
July 15 3,827
Sept 15 3,062

am i correct with this understanding?
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post Jan 24 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 24 2014, 10:32 PM)
Yes sir you are correct. But if encik ali is still working in malaysia. His account balance will grow every month.

But overall the understanding is correct since u assumed his balance is static.
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en ali doesn't necessarily have to work outsde of malaysia if his EPF balance is static

en ali might be running his own business (business owners are encouraged to contribute to EPF, but not mandatory)

en ali is now very keen

and en ali will sure be busy on monday morning nod.gif
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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Jan 24 2014, 11:46 PM)
basically, it is correct...but, 1 thing to alert you that the amount for 2015 would be less due to age adjustment...from EPf table, the basic savings would be different by age
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noted that. thanks for highlighting it. i am now very interested


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post Jan 27 2014, 11:08 AM

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so i went to ASNB office today for EPF re-investment thingy

bummer. only ASG or ASN products are available - that is variable fund

AS1M quota for EPF reinvestment is sold out sad.gif

I'll study ASG returns vs EPF dividend this year and see if it is worth the time to reinvest or not



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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Jan 27 2014, 11:53 AM)
bro, why you didnt use ur EPF to subscribe unit trust? the return is much higher compare to PNB fund.. idk, you must have analyze the return, just i want to know why? smile.gif

for me i use my EPF to subscribe the CIMB unit trust.. return so far is around 14%..
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tried it once for the lulz. i put it in aggressive growth fund. leave it for one year.

invested 6k.

returned 6.1k.

rm 100 from the rm 6k investment over a year which translates to about 1.67% return

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to be fair, if i put it in normal trust fund, the return on evrage is about 4-6%. which is about what EPF is dishing out



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post Jan 27 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 27 2014, 02:48 PM)
eh how come quota can sold-out?  shocking.gif ASNB/PNB trying so hard to sell the balance Bumi units of AS1M yet people cannot use EPF money to subscribe it  doh.gif

or EPF already "lack of fund" thus "sold-out" thingy  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 27 2014, 03:41 PM)
Means AS1M for bumi oso sold out?
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bumi quota sold out, but there's always people selling. this is latest info after my chit chat session with my bank manager

apparently, i am bumped into PW status laugh.gif




QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Jan 27 2014, 04:32 PM)
for bumi or non-bumi?
when i ask the lady at the counter, she said it is available...around rm2 bill (in dec, bumi quota of course)

so fast ya...i may consider to change to ASG this march since the charges still 2% if AS1M sold out
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the 2 bil is for ASB2. even the bank manager has no idea what's the ASB2 features will be. only the allocation size is 2 bil.




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post Jan 27 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 27 2014, 05:10 PM)
Looking forward to new Funds by ASNB since all fixed price funds (ASW/ASM/ASD/AS1M) oredy sold out
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sorry to say, but most probably the new fund will be limited to bumi only

this is due to the demands by some quarters who say the 200k asb limit is too restrictive

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