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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4
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lucifah
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Dec 20 2013, 08:25 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Dec 20 2013, 04:04 PM) Quick question. How do they calculate for compounded dividend for those who borrowed loan for ASB investment? Since the bank holding the cert and borrower holding the ASB book. The compounded dividend will be based on the cert+book balance right? Yes. And the dividend will be credited into the passbook balance
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lucifah
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Dec 23 2013, 07:16 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Dec 22 2013, 06:44 AM) Mayb those with solid knowledge can enlighten me on this question; I heard gov will impose tax for any unit holders selling their ASB units. This includes other unit trust funds. Is this true? Thx in advance. no. u heard wrongly soething to do with single tier dividend and tax at source, i want to elaborate further, but ayam stil in holiday mode This post has been edited by lucifah: Dec 23 2013, 07:18 PM
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lucifah
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Dec 26 2013, 09:12 AM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Dec 25 2013, 09:45 PM) Thanks for the suggestion, I was just thinking since I still have few days AL to bring forward to next year, I should have utilize it and maximize the chances to get some units...Is that true 2nd January will have more people selling off their units? Sorry, my mistake...I typed that msg when I was still in office yesterday, I have checked my passbook, it is a shinny gold coloured " Amanah Saham Malaysia"  just like the color of the book, ASM is a gold mine it is a fixed rate fund giving healthy returns of 6%+ for the past few years try to put in as much money as possible. available funds are rare unless you're an earth prince
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lucifah
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Dec 27 2013, 08:21 PM
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St. Fu
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i just added RM 25k for AS1M
it seems bumi allocations are almost always available
makes you wonder...
btw, there's a chinese lady trying to top up her ASW2020 book but was asked to wait with no guarantee
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lucifah
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Dec 30 2013, 01:55 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(enkil @ Dec 30 2013, 01:47 PM) %bonus x lowest balance of the year / averaged for past 10 yrs
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lucifah
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Dec 31 2013, 12:56 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Dec 31 2013, 12:35 PM) if i credit amount to my AS1M on 2nd of Jan, can i still get dividend for the month? it's a grey area. usually it's a no. there might be some exception, but only ASNB officers can confirm but anyhow, good luck trying to do ASNB transactions on 2nd January 2014. go and look for yourself how long the queue is for the blue book ASB holders who are updating AND also w/drawing their dividends...
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lucifah
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Dec 31 2013, 06:33 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(vergas @ Dec 31 2013, 03:13 PM) Please don't deposit at the counter on 2nd Jan la... use online. There will be tooooo many people.... I don't think you are going to get dividend for Jan anyway since its already 2nd. But if you do, go and snap some pictures and post here.  QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Dec 31 2013, 03:31 PM) u do online transactions, it will be completed on next business day so if u do it on 2nd jan, it will be reflected into your account on 3rd jan
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lucifah
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Jan 2 2014, 05:56 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 2 2014, 05:16 PM) Nope. I havent. Can i? Do they allow? no they don't. QUOTE(toccata @ Jan 2 2014, 05:22 PM) how do you do that actully (request for limit upgrade), I heard you can do it but I get different responses from different people, one bank officer told me its not allowed anymore. Is it still possible to request? there is no such policy. those are just rumour.
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lucifah
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Jan 3 2014, 12:31 PM
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St. Fu
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u people spend lots of time in banks to update the book or make w/drawals?
i usually just give a stack of blue books to the manager and she will help me update them in a few minutes
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lucifah
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Jan 3 2014, 02:44 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jan 3 2014, 02:33 PM) Wal lau wehh, the manager never heard before of PDPA? I remembered the banks have been practicing it and PNB has started to do the same this year. Hopefully she doesn't get into trouble  nah. if you read properly, the PDPA allows anyone to update someone else books provided that he / she has given written consent for that person to do so i have the letters from my clients
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lucifah
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Jan 3 2014, 02:46 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 3 2014, 02:42 PM) u must be very2 important customer to the branch. u give a lot business / do "huge" transaction at the branch?  that's why "special" services  i am just one of the office boy who showed up quite frequently at the bank counters
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lucifah
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Jan 3 2014, 03:07 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(acmilan2005 @ Jan 3 2014, 02:59 PM) Hi, I need some enlightenment here. Currently which Amanah Saham can be purchased, i mean get an account then top up. Thanks. if you are a bumi, all sahams can be bought and added anytime (except ASW2020 where the bumi allocations is opened to all) i guess the first post did summarize all the available funds that you can subscribe. go read them and if you still have some questions, please do ask
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lucifah
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Jan 3 2014, 03:28 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 3 2014, 03:24 PM) or was it ASM i can't remember. LOL
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lucifah
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Jan 4 2014, 06:32 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Jan 4 2014, 06:13 PM) should i invest rm3k monthly in asb or pay loan of a apartment rm285k for 10 yrs? the apartment property appreciates fast and almost recession proof, especially in malaysia
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lucifah
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Jan 5 2014, 10:52 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Jan 5 2014, 01:23 PM) i read from other sources, they recommend to fill ASB first then go for property. reason, its hard to get rental yield % that equal or greater to ASB.. your thought? depends on your property location. rental yield is not the main reason why you buy property it's the property value appreciation that you need to consider just take an example of person A who bought a shoplot fot 900k in 2009. in 2013, the same property is valued at 1.3mil (bank evaluation) thus, you technically gained 400k in 4 years (at least on paper). even if you put the same amount of money in ASB (let's assume that you can even put 900k in ASB in the first place), you will only get RM 280 - 300k in dividends (div = 8%)
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lucifah
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Jan 5 2014, 10:53 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Jan 5 2014, 08:13 PM) after asb penuh, put in asm, good? ASM or AS1M both will always have bumi quota funds available
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lucifah
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Jan 5 2014, 10:54 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 5 2014, 08:25 PM) On the maxi investment allowed per account, did a quick check as below. There are many holders with millions in there. Some may be because they started with the RM200K right from the start and over the years the amount grows to the millions. But can also be due to inherited amount. Looking at the table, for ASM & ASW, the millions can be explained by the duration and/or the inherited amounts. But for AS1M, the difference is 6X (cf 2X for ASM & ASW). My wife mentions one of the ASX was open to all with no limit some years ago. Maybe it is due to that. [attachmentid=3801877] Cheerio. P/S Yes, I know, the dividend rates I used are not 100% correct. only ASB is capped at 200k the rest is only limited to fund availability and how much money you can dump
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lucifah
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Jan 5 2014, 10:56 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Jan 5 2014, 09:21 PM) what i meant is that one just need to wait for 24yrs & of course we must have that rm200k on hand first  QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 5 2014, 09:31 PM) I think you are surprised that 200K can become 1 million after 24 yrs. That is the power of compound interest. Einstein called it the 8th wonder of the world! Just to tease you a bit, after 40 years at 7%, the 200k will be 3.2 million! Cannot be? Cheerio. QUOTE(popice2u @ Jan 5 2014, 09:33 PM) QUOTE(MysteriousBabe @ Jan 5 2014, 09:55 PM) don't be too happy. factor in inflation rate, which is about 3% per annum, and you will know how much your rm1mil purchasing power is in the next 40 yrs
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lucifah
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Jan 5 2014, 11:10 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 5 2014, 11:05 PM) ASM still got quota till now? I tot just for certain period only, then open to all?  i always got confused. it's the red book. is that ASW or is that ASM? blue - asb yellow - as1m red - asm / asw2020? gold - asw2020 / asm ? i know gold is finished liao. red got.
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lucifah
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Jan 6 2014, 12:30 PM
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St. Fu
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QUOTE(squares90 @ Jan 6 2014, 12:16 PM) I'm kinda worried about this. I'll be marrying my gf soon and we're both teachers, so we'll have around 5K combined salary for each month. But I'm really afraid of taking out a loan of 200,000 and putting it in ASB in case something happens with the value of money, thus rendering our investment worthless. I really want to do it, but I just don't have the guts. u can do 100k first for 30 years apart from a "forced" savings, it also acts like a life insurance. if should something happened to you and you passed away (god forbids), the 100k loan will be settled by the MRTA and your wife / kids will be the benefactors but keep in mind, the 100k savings will somehow affect your loan eligibility for future loan, like home loan, for example
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