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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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lucifah
post Nov 12 2013, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(levey226 @ Nov 12 2013, 09:02 PM)
which online banking u are using to check the avaiability of fund? currently i am using maybank2u
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m2u and cimbclicks

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4. We regret to inform that all the allocated Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW2020), Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) and Amanah Saham Didik (ASD) have been fully subscribed while the Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) funds for Non-Bumiputera have been fully subscribed.


AS1M bumi allocations still available wink.gif

even ASW2020 too if you go over the counter


from CIMB:

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Please take note of the following information.
ASW 2020, ASD and ASM funds are fully subscribed.
ASB is available for Bumiputera only
AS1M is available for Bumiputeras only. Non Bumi allocations are fully subscribed.


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post Nov 12 2013, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 12 2013, 09:38 PM)
then must be ASNB system error & newbie counter staff sweat.gif
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or u look like a non bumi that she didn't even bother to try to do the transaction. it happens bro. i have to show the books and tell them directly the bumi quota is still, and always available. only when she saw my name she will start to react
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 12 2013, 09:37 PM)
thanks alot bro, I've asked my parents about it and they agreed its a good starting investment... maybe 30-45k for 5-7 years.
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i advise you to read a few pages back. if possible, read from page 1 of this thread to know the pros & cons of ASB financing. only then you decide to commit.


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post Nov 12 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Nov 12 2013, 06:58 PM)
what max we can invest for asb?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 12 2013, 07:28 PM)
RM200k for adult
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max INITIAL capital investment. when your dividend grows, so does your limit.
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 12 2013, 04:51 PM)
yes. but if not mistaken, they hold the certificate until you pay finish the loan.  biggrin.gif

why they keep it? as a guarantor incase you default the loan they can use it to cash out.
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yes, they will keep the cert AND also a pre-signed ASB unit selling form from you

this will act as a COLLATERAL to be charged against your loan, should you decide to run away (bad move) or terminate it anytime you want (some penalties apply for early termination for some banks)


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post Nov 12 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Nov 12 2013, 06:28 PM)
What if we take/withdraw the money the last minute they'll announce it?
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you will not get the dividend for that said month.

remember, the dividend is calculated MONTHLY, based on the LOWEST BALANCE of that particular month


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post Nov 12 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 12 2013, 04:24 PM)
Minimum is 5 years o for ASB loan.

Maybe can get 30k for 5 years.
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there is no minimum. what you saw was their printed brochures



you have to be aware that certain banks are lock in period.


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post Nov 12 2013, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 12 2013, 09:48 PM)
When you say there is no minimum means 1 year is actually possible (technically)?

and also, what do you mean by lock in period?
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yes, but the interest rate will be marginally higher since the bank has to recoup back their losses

and what is there for you to gain? laugh.gif


lock in period is the minimum number of years you have to keep your loan. this is not the proper thread to discuss the term. i guess you can go around finance threads to learn more about that. smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 12 2013, 09:48 PM)
why the counter staff like that one, it's very2 bad attitude. They shouldn't do that  nod.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 12 2013, 09:52 PM)
Similar to 'judge a book by d cover'
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i don't blame them. they serve hundreds of customer everyday.

from what i see (i go to the bank everyday), most of the customers only know how to scold / pinpoint the tellers. i pity them

plus some investors are outright ignorant. a few time i saw a large crowd of people try frantically to update their AS1M book. the funny thing is that it is ASM dividend that was announced the week before, and AS1M dividend has not been announced yet doh.gif

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post Nov 14 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 14 2013, 11:50 AM)
After using multiple calculators on ASB it seems that using own money will reap more return than taking an ASB loan.

35,000 for 6 years is RM563 a month

BLR (6.6%) - 1.65% = interest rate of 4.95%

say ASB dividen + bonus is 8% = pure profit = 8 - 4.95 = 3.05%

the end profit is much less than if I start from RM 0 and invest the same amount for 6 years with the full % from ASB.

Or am I totally wrong?
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scroll back a few pages. someone did post a spreadsheet calculations to compare both methods.
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post Nov 14 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 14 2013, 01:05 PM)
Lol, went back until page 62, cant find it...  blush.gif  but i guess the link stated both methods and other alternative ones
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i scrolled back few pages too, and can't find it. must have wrongly remembered.

either way, i;'ll try do a simulation and post it here when i have time later this weekend
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post Nov 14 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 14 2013, 01:11 PM)
dont sweat it bro...  laugh.gif

its only coz most of the calculation and googling showed that self-investing give better returns than an ASB-loan. so i thought if that's the case, why do people still take loan then? - for the strictness of it?
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u got it the other way round

mathematically speaking, u earn more with ASB financing

notice the word: mathematically wink.gif


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post Nov 14 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(nelanga @ Nov 14 2013, 09:22 PM)
Wisely the investment is a good way for antoher ousource pocket. However, the inflation will effect our money soon. Nowadays, 100k is likely very small amount. Soon next 20yrs, the value of 100k I can't imagine lah. Headache...

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inflation is about 3% at the moment. just like dividend, it also has compounding effect.

a 100k today may only worth rm 80k in the next 10 years.
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post Nov 15 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(nelanga @ Nov 15 2013, 12:38 AM)
Whichmeans next 20 yrs 100k is likely 60k. Tq Lucifah
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remember the compounding effect? it's not linear, but exponential

so a 100k in 20 yrs will be about 40-50k worth only. but of course all that is largely dependent on the country's economy
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post Nov 16 2013, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Nov 16 2013, 12:32 AM)
Many thanks for the prompt reply.

Just IC and money would do?

I read in the earlier thread, mentioning abt people frustrated for not being able to purchase units. What's that all abt?
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for the non-bumi subscribale funds like ASW2020, ASM, and AS1M, yes

but for bumi exclusive fund like ASB, no problem. wink.gif


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post Nov 16 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Nov 16 2013, 01:31 PM)
Uiks, it's that it?

Wonder why not that many bumis I know subscribe to ASB then, if it is this simple!


So, the initial amount that I need to pay to open my ASB a/c is RM1, right?
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post Nov 18 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 17 2013, 12:32 PM)
juz mykad is enough if adult application, everything information are in there, don't need birth cert  rclxub.gif 
tis must be some "overzealous" staff doing some crazy policy of it's own  doh.gif
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he is a unique case. same like one of my clients.

they need to give proof that they are technically categrozied as bumiputra


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post Nov 18 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 18 2013, 09:46 AM)
Its not fixed. Last year it was 7.75% plus 1.15% bonus. But unless you have saved for 10 years, then don't include the bonus.
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unless you have kept a very high balance for the past 10 years, then just forget about the bonus

for my case, because of my stupidity in my younger years, my bonus is roughly about 3% of my total dividend, which, at best, is less than rm100 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Nov 18 2013, 11:52 AM)
yape, for me as a non-bumi, i always have to either scratch my head or invest my time in trying to deposit into the AS1M or ASM..

If i am eligible for ASB, i think it had been one of the best investment as no need to headache on when i can try to bank in, and the dividend announced are really high compared to my AS1M or ASM..
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2013, 11:55 AM)
the good thing is it makes us become competitive and commitment in research to find the right investment product since we are not eligible for ASB.  smile.gif

For all ASB-ers, please utilise the ASB. It's a great investment product.  biggrin.gif
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you can always convert to islam and be technically eligible for ASB wink.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(popice2u @ Nov 19 2013, 07:22 PM)
was having lunch discussion.....one fren say if ASB got more RM250k then dividen is calculated base on the max cap RM200k. is it true aaah?
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he is wrong. it is based on whatever balance you have in your account. if you have 1 mil, then your dividend at 8% will be 80k

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