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 MSI Gaming Notebook V.II, The Refreshed model yet more powerful!

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post Mar 16 2014, 03:20 PM

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looking into gx70 with m290x, any nice place intro to buy with installments? or should l go pc for it? since next month it will arrive in malaysia nod.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 03:35 PM)
before that, I not recommend you go to current GX series as it still use AMD Richland A10-5750M, at least you wait for Kaveri mobile first.
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so which would u recommend? need laptop atm, what about ge60/70? cpu wins, but gpu sweat.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 04:16 PM)
New GE lineup has decent GPU, GTX860M performance is on par with GTX770M, you can check gaming benchmark at notebookcheck.

I presume your budget will not allow you go beyond RM5k ~ RM6k, so new GE is also a good alternative.

If you want good gaming, you must have certain quality of cooling performance, GX surely can handle very well (same chassis with GT), but GE may struggle a liitle bit.
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yar, l picked gx mainly becoz of the m290x, but the 5750m cpu are 32nm process doh.gif if gaming + working as graphic designer, which one would u recommend? pick better cpu or better gpu?
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post Mar 16 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 05:01 PM)
Not sure what is your graphic designer scope, perhaps I suggest you get an I7 combo with any GPU above GTX860M or equal.

But bear in mind, look for at least some level of cooling performance, new GE is a good choice but there is slightly decrease in cooling performance. I know this bcs in China forum they reveal the inner part of GE. Otherwise, wait for GX with new Kaveri mobile APU, but may be 1 or 2 months.
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upgrading from i5-m480, compare with a10-5750m on cpuboss webby, it's still gain slightly performance upgrade from previous one, thanks for the suggestion, will decide whether play the waiting game or not laugh.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 05:10 PM)
Please dont forget multitasking scenario too, anyway, good luck with your purchase and pick up your most suitable one. smile.gif
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how does it affect? l suppose the 4700hq are beter on it, been using intel all the while, never tried amd, l done some digging on google, cant seem to find any rumors on kaveri mobile apu? any links to share? notworthy.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 05:38 PM)
kaveri mobile may be announced in May/June in my opinion, you currently cant find any news as only Kaveri desktop is on market. Even AMD also keep quiet for Kaveri mobile news. Soon they may be some leak source news. 4700HQ definetely a good processor but a soldered CPU.
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that's a long wait sweat.gif , thanks again for the info, awaiting leaked source nod.gif if cant wait properly will go current gen gx70, the ssd, m290x, 17inch display and price point simply cant beat, might sacrifice cpu sweat.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 16 2014, 06:24 PM)
If A10-5750M or new Kaveri APU has performance between 4th gen I5~I7, it is a really good buy, but the fact is really sad. I suggest you go through GX60 discussion in notebookreview forum first, see how forumers there improve their GX series and may be leaked news for Kaveri too.

I was once chosing GX60 too but I cant bear the risk of uncertain performance of CPU as most of the time we tend to forget very tiny but important parts. Eventually, I went for GT70 with a good bargain. Good luck. smile.gif
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will do laugh.gif thanks again for the valuable info
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post Mar 17 2014, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 08:50 AM)
Not sure want to share this to you and guys here.....

There is a new lineup, combining Intel I7-4810MQ and AMD R9-M290X!! brows.gif

It is called Z70 2BA!!

link:

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2926144307

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2925924455

I hope this lineup exists and be sold in Malaysia

Remark: It is China website, so just google translate.
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the z702ba did match up perfectly! drool.gif but lm sure the price would cost at the range of 870m, 7k myr perhaps!?
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post Mar 17 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 10:20 AM)
Most likely will be RM6k~7k because of AMD GPU high price/cost ratio, if you look carefully the copper sink part, you will find out less one copper pipe connecting CPU and GPU part (on top of ram). I hope this will come to Malaysia to provide more choice, by the way if you can understand Chinese language, you can go often that link as more new stuff and even you can chat directly with expert there, quite experience and helpful.
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l can read chinese no worries, saw a web selling the z70, 2k USD shocking.gif shocking.gif china forum is pain experience for me, sometimes too much news, duno true or false doh.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 10:52 AM)
I just stick to MSI baidu tieba as I can chat directly with them, there are some few experts and sellers from different China location. You can see those new units first and know the improvement before you purchase.

If you want something really technically, you can go to notebookreview forum.
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okay, will look into it, just found out m290x is rebrand of 7970m doh.gif doh.gif lose interest on it, now look into ge60 with no ssd doh.gif possible to upgrade ssd with it?
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post Mar 17 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 11:03 AM)
Not sure about this one, but should be okay. If you mean at the same time with HDD and SSD, then I am not sure.
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asking storm88 now possible to upgrade!? high chance will persuade my bro to get ge60 instead of gx70, say no to old tech gpu & cpu nod.gif

*ah possible! l saw superraid as optional upgrade, sweet!

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post Mar 17 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Mar 17 2014, 08:25 PM)
m290x is rebadge 8970m
8970m is rebadge 7970m

i wonder if m270 is rebadge 8870m??
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not sure about m270, but m290x tech specs, hardware all same with 7970m, doh.gif doh.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 11:02 PM)
You can refer to link above and explore other thread. Basically, what I mean is comparing to 2013 GE series, 2014 GE series is inferior in terms of cooling performance. The reason is less one copper pipe instead of 3 copper pipes found in 2013 GE series.

link:

new 2014 GE http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2915799061

and compare with this 2013 GE http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2927908375
Edit: @ReverseDark, you can refer to link for 2014 GE, quite nice review. smile.gif
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Imo lesser heatpipes maybe becoz of nvidia maxwell 860m, as maxwell use lower tdp, resulted cooler than previous gen, cant really know unless l gets my hand on it or some reviews, maybe tieba baidu have the comparison!?

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post Mar 18 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 09:26 AM)
they have, but I forget the link, actually it is not cooler but slightly hotter than previous gen even though GTX860M has better power utilization for performance. Somemore now new GE features with I7-48XXMQ CPU.

In actual case, users only experience warm on laptop surface until certain extent. However, you still can consider new GE series as I think overall it is a good buy, just need to tolerate in cooling.
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been a desktop base user, imo lesser voltage = lesser heat, decided to buy the ge70, according to storm88 ge60/70 uses 86m mobo are not compatible with super raid aka ssd doh.gif will update about the temp next month once l got my hands of my bro's laptop nod.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 09:57 AM)
Not sure about that, even lesser voltage = less heat, stilll new GE should not remove 1 heat copper pipe, even the interior arrangement can be improved better. sweat.gif

Anyway, good luck and remember to do some benchmark once you buy. Mostly people here are concerned about cooling, so, do some stress test as well. However, if you are affordable, please go to GT60 Dominator (RM5799).
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Msi butthurt themself again!? laugh.gif l suppose anyhow it will be a huge upgrade for my bro even in terms of cooling, previously using typical dell laptop, the heat could almost could cook egg, and a lots of problem as well doh.gif

Would run some furmark and prime 95 see how it goes, wouldnt do long stress test, will try poison my bro on gt60 brows.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 17 2014, 11:02 PM)
new 2014 GE http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2915799061

Edit: @ReverseDark, you can refer to link for 2014 GE, quite nice review. smile.gif
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According to this, the ge60 uses 87m mobo, support m sata, wonder why storm88 claims it use 86m mobo rclxub.gif

*found some Picture thats shows furmark, gpuz and cpu stresstest, temp 85c nod.gif

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post Mar 18 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 10:13 AM)
Oh, forget to mention, the 3K edition one, poison your brother gao gao tongue.gif
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What 3k edition!? Spec link pl0x brows.gif

*According 3d mark score result, 860m running on 40c to 60c which is really gd on my pov

*furmark 92c, wtf!! Burn in 15mins, very dangerous icon_question.gif

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post Mar 18 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 12:11 PM)
you can refer to MSI NB Facebook Malaysia Brochure.

Wait for GS60 Ghost benchmark, then compare sweat.gif
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on phone now, hard to search, open up the price list, didnt saw anything 3k edition hmm.gif

gs60 dual fan thermal, cant compare notworthy.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
Oh Ya, only available not in Malaysia. sweat.gif
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shakehead.gif typical malaysia market, on side note, pc fair coming next month, if you were to buy the ge70, would you wait the pc fair? or direct purchase from storm? any advantage of going pc fair now?
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post Mar 18 2014, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 18 2014, 03:25 PM)
Hmm, usually laptop sold in PC fair has no discount or may be RM100~200 with a lot of bundle gift such as mouse,16 in 1 tools, games and ram, ssd if luck enough. Then they will tell you: Wow, free gift total of RM1xxx or RM5xx kind of gimmicks.

My advice: if you are lack of accessories, you can consider purchase via PCFair. Otherwise, I suggest you buy from storm88 with upgrades you want, he may have a good discount for you.
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been to pc b4, don like cheapos free gifts sweat.gif will confirm with storm88 today, haha! still poisoning my bro with the GS60 brows.gif

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