QUOTE(horns @ Sep 19 2013, 03:11 PM)
yeah i see you everywhere
apart from the single fan, it was the spec of power brick that made me confused a bit. i did compared the various areas when i looked for the right laptop previously (yeah you know what i want

).
i felt confused when i saw that msi extreme comes with a 180W power brick. how come it can be that energy efficient?! (aw r4/17 is 240W when you have higher end cpu/gpu; clevo provides 230W to 330W; even asus is 240W for jh, 780m with 4700hq).
msi gt series has the potential to be customized when i want to. the problem is the more stuff i put in, the more power is needed. the power supply can become a serious bottleneck.
that's why i said it's a pity.
Yeah, it's a shame. Thankfully for lower enders like the GE40, I can go scrounge up a 180w adapter for use even I don't really need it.
But for the top end to come with a 180w PSU.... It's either they're simply pushing the PSU to the very limit (well, we can't deny this possibility, we're not privy to the REAL tolerances of the PSU) - or MSI broke the laws of physics and got a top end machine running full throttle while sipping below 180w of power.
Looking at NOS (and the fact that the higher end 700 cards ALONE pull nearly 100ws of power), we can only say that the former must be true - which means that every MSI PSU is operating on the edge of its operating tolerances with very, very little power leeway to spare. Hence the need for the battery to buffer up the spikes (or risk throttling due to insufficient power).
Which in turn, kills the battery... Like Unseen duly noted.
Not the best way of going about things, but you gotta sell 'em replacement batteries somehow lol.
On a more serious note, let's just say MSI is able to optimise the power consumption to fit the adapters they have. This leads to lower manufacturing costs (savings of which is passed to us, the consumer), but like Horns said, it limits the "upgradability" of the laptop.
Well, most people REPLACE their laptops after 2-3 years anyway, and with this in mind what MSI is doing is actually economically sound.
This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 19 2013, 03:46 PM