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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Rojak Thread V50, miskin sangat. kek bulan mahal.

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TitanRev
post Sep 11 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Beyonce_standard @ Sep 11 2013, 08:39 AM)
i assume i knw a bit.
as i choose saga becoz of the price, space, handling, dual airbag, abs with ebd~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytVN-KOEgE

ABS= anti brake lock system?
which can avoid our car from braking too hard and bang in front?
Or in other words, ABS allow the car to stop faster?
Betul ka bang? correct me if im wrong biggrin.gif
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When the ABS is working the brake pedal will have a pulsing sensation. I believe that is what your GF experienced but not much people have the balls to test their ABS on the road. When I was working for KIA before Toyota. When customer complains ABS not working. I will just drive the customer and his car to a parking lot. Drive up to 80km/h then just stomp the brake really hard and don't let go. When I say stomp you really really press the brake like you are clinging to your life that time you will know if your ABS works. You can feel the tire lock, loose lock ,loose very fast and still can turn the steering. The pedal you will feel it pulsating.

Most average drivers when they feel the brake pedal pulsing they let go thinking it got problem then bang! you can try go out ask 10 drivers how ABS feel in actual and I can tell you 9 people will tell you don't know

So beyonce standard, want me to test your ABS for you?

if ABS not working usually the CEL will come up then plug in a diag tools it will tell you which wheel speed sensor is not working. If wheel speed sensor not working your ECU can't know the sudden decrease in vehicle speed to activate the ABS.

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Sep 11 2013, 11:47 AM
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:37 AM)
Sila tendang saya sebagai pembayar cukai negara ini.  whistling.gif
shocking.gif Crash into where? Later rusty if metal parts.  shakehead.gif
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what? seriously? what do you think? serious?

btw I'm not hapy to pay tax too.. tolls and dbkl carpark somemore.. I keep all the receipt and claim later..

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post Sep 11 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 11 2013, 11:47 AM)
what? seriously? what do you think? serious?

btw I'm not hapy to pay tax too.. tolls and dbkl carpark somemore.. I keep all the receipt and claim later..
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hmm.gif Didn't see any dented but you should let workshop people check properly first.
If condition still OK, then just repaint only nia. The bumper not metal parts so won't rust one. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 11 2013, 12:47 PM)
what? seriously? what do you think? serious?

btw I'm not hapy to pay tax too.. tolls and dbkl carpark somemore.. I keep all the receipt and claim later..
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mieza, can you share the whole picture of your bumper with the " drive so fast for what" sticker? blush.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 11 2013, 10:00 AM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

Yup, many cars hv that function inherent in their ignition sys...
That is, if coolant/engine temp is abv optimim op temp, rad fan wld cont 2run even tho eng is switched off but key not removed...

Normally, 4Gagas...if rad fan is running, one can juz switch off eng & fan also stops wan...
However, fren got an experience when only after  eng temp reached 4-5 bars then only the rad fan ran like that!! Switching the eng off that time not stop fan running...  thumbup.gif
Tks, Bro!!  notworthy.gif

Can anyone else confirm that?
Esp some Bro out there who has done it himself or seen it done...ie removing/replacing the TOP timing belt cover only...

TQVM in adv.
ABS does NOT stop the car faster... sweat.gif

It juz prevents the brakes fr locking up & thus allows control of steering the car 2avoid obstacle....IINM... tongue.gif

ps. Wet Wet Day 2day up North... How's it down Central/South?
Drive safe, Everyone!!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2013, 10:01 AM)
ABS doesn't allow the car to stop faster. It prevents the wheels from locking to prevent skidding and to let the driver steer the car out of harms way.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:44 AM)
or is it the tak tak sound coming from the drum brake? then send it to sc to change it or rectify it.

if not,it seems u r like to drive fast causing u to use emergency brake or u like to emergency braking base on ur story becouse abs only active when it sense the tyre is locking,n work to unlock it so that u can get control of ur car.

on dry road,when u brake,then heard tyre screeching,then abs will start to work.

wah,ur girlfriend is good coz opting for abs equip myvi which on the premium price one. good 4 u then.

but just wondering,why often use emergency braking?even ur girlfriend inside whether in myvi or saga? too fast n too furious maybe?
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 11 2013, 11:45 AM)
When the ABS is working the brake pedal will have a pulsing sensation. I believe that is what your GF experienced but not much people have the balls to test their ABS on the road. When I was working for KIA before Toyota. When customer complains ABS not working. I will just drive the customer and his car to a parking lot. Drive up to 80km/h then just stomp the brake really hard and don't let go. When I say stomp you really really press the brake like you are clinging to your life that time you will know if your ABS works. You can feel the tire lock, loose lock ,loose very fast and still can turn the steering. The pedal you will feel it pulsating.

Most average drivers when they feel the brake pedal pulsing they let go thinking it got problem then bang! you can try go out ask 10 drivers how ABS feel in actual and I can tell you 9 people will tell you don't know

So beyonce standard, want me to test your ABS for you?

if ABS not working usually the CEL will come up then plug in a diag tools it will tell you which wheel speed sensor is not working. If wheel speed sensor not working your ECU can't know the sudden decrease in vehicle speed to activate the ABS.
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tq for enlighten me.. now I knw hows abs work n the purpose.
Ok.. I only encounter once in a myvi n once in my saga for emergency brake aka abs activated. Myvi on genting road.. saga on wet road.. I am juz wondering how come the sound of the brake is so horrible n i will describe it like using a hammer hitting the disc brake continuously. Very load n scary. I started tolost confident as the brake seems like not going to serve for the purpose.

Sometimes is fast n furious but always safety come 1st. Im not those a beng who tiong ppl mia. As I understand the road is for everyone since every1 is playing their road tax n i wont act selfish testing my car limit or performance on road.

Btw.. thx for all the feedback. Appreciate

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Beyonce_standard @ Sep 11 2013, 12:10 PM)
tq for enlighten me.. now I knw hows abs work n the purpose.
Ok.. I only encounter once in a myvi n once in my saga for emergency brake aka abs activated. Myvi on genting road.. saga on wet road.. I am juz wondering how come the sound of the brake is so horrible n i will describe it like using a hammer hitting the disc brake continuously. Very load n scary. I started tolost confident as the brake seems like not going to serve for the purpose.

Sometimes is fast n furious but always safety come 1st. Im not those a beng who tiong ppl mia. As I understand the road is for everyone since every1 is playing their road tax n i wont act selfish testing my car limit or performance on road.

Btw.. thx for all the feedback.  Appreciate
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no need to worry, i once activated abs on my father's civic and also in my flx, done few hard/emergency braking, all loud and scary, even tho it's loud, it is safe, if not i already hit the car in front of me.

for peace of mind, do expect what's in front and apply brake gradually, also helps in fuel consumption

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Beyonce_standard @ Sep 11 2013, 01:10 PM)
tq for enlighten me.. now I knw hows abs work n the purpose.
Ok.. I only encounter once in a myvi n once in my saga for emergency brake aka abs activated. Myvi on genting road.. saga on wet road.. I am juz wondering how come the sound of the brake is so horrible n i will describe it like using a hammer hitting the disc brake continuously. Very load n scary. I started tolost confident as the brake seems like not going to serve for the purpose.

Sometimes is fast n furious but always safety come 1st. Im not those a beng who tiong ppl mia. As I understand the road is for everyone since every1 is playing their road tax n i wont act selfish testing my car limit or performance on road.

Btw.. thx for all the feedback.  Appreciate
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:19 PM

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Beyonce, don't test ABS on road test in empty car parks.....away from the road. Much safer.....when ABS work you can sometimes hear tuk tuk tuk tuk sound much like hammering something it's normal. ABS works according to your vehicle speed. The higher the sudden decrease in speed the faster the ABS works because the wheel speed sensor is feeding information to the ABS module on your vehicle speed. ABS working principle is sort of like threshold braking.

But if you follow another car too close even ABS cannot safe you....

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:22 PM

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TT Test ABS

Day: 30 February
Time: 9pm till over
Venue: Sri Petaling kapak since kosong at nite

Agenda:
test ABS
test non ABS
test ABS without ABS fuse
0-60-0 side by side test
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:26 PM

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like Beyonce's case, people always perceptions on their car's safety specifications can really safe their lives.
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:26 PM

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V12K, siapa jadi tester oh....Hahahaha....very hard to have owner who would jam kao kao their brakes....sayang car.....

Another thing is our driving school also need to add in the that for cars with ABS if emergency brake need to step on the brake pedal hard because I remember back in my days when I take my license the teacher keep telling me not to press too hard on brakes during emergency to avoid brake lock.

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 11 2013, 12:26 PM)
V12K, siapa jadi tester oh....Hahahaha....very hard to have owner who would jam kao kao their brakes....sayang car.....
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 11 2013, 01:26 PM)
V12K, siapa jadi tester oh....Hahahaha....very hard to have owner who would jam kao kao their brakes....sayang car.....
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jgn, nanti kereta brake jammed, nanti lepas TT butthurt got tak tak sound.
summore brake pad koyaked.

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 11 2013, 01:27 PM)
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lol. where got february got 30 ma.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 11 2013, 12:26 PM)
V12K, siapa jadi tester oh....Hahahaha....very hard to have owner who would jam kao kao their brakes....sayang car.....

Another thing is our driving school also need to add in the that for cars with ABS if emergency brake need to step on the brake pedal hard because I remember back in my days when I take my license the teacher keep telling me not to press too hard on brakes during emergency to avoid brake lock.
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yup, same goes to my era. The instuctor told me to step on brakes softly.

So, I think this is the reason why ABS brake system is used the wrong way in Malaysia. Have to properly educate them.
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:40 PM

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V12, yeah...my nightmare was sitting in a car driven by a girl she's from KL and she was fetching me in her Altis and she manage to hit the car in front although there was enough space to avoid it.

I told her your car got ABS mah why didn't press the brake hard...her reply..I don't know woh.... =.=' sweat kao kao me.....
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2013, 01:34 PM)
yup, same goes to my era. The instuctor told me to step on brakes softly.

So, I think this is the reason why ABS brake system is used the wrong way in Malaysia. Have to properly educate them.
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test drive car not equipped with ABS liao.
i tak diajar untuk emergency brake. i only diajar untuk tekan brake pelan-pelan.
i think is common sense to brake hard when needed.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 11 2013, 12:26 PM)
V12K, siapa jadi tester oh....Hahahaha....very hard to have owner who would jam kao kao their brakes....sayang car.....

Another thing is our driving school also need to add in the that for cars with ABS if emergency brake need to step on the brake pedal hard because I remember back in my days when I take my license the teacher keep telling me not to press too hard on brakes during emergency to avoid brake lock.
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Ayam same era with you....but my instructor taught me no such thing whistling.gif

In fact, sometimes my instructor falls asleep while I was driving doh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 11 2013, 01:43 PM)
Ayam same era with you....but my instructor taught me no such thing whistling.gif

In fact, sometimes my instructor falls asleep while I was driving  doh.gif
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what era?
meaning that he's got so much faith in u ma.

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