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 Final Fantasy X|V : A Realm Reborn v10

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post Sep 5 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Sep 5 2013, 08:52 AM)
maybe SE dun wan to be called copy cat later on lol
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Dynamic Event, Rifts, FATE. No one said anything. If its a good thing, why not? Unless it was patented luls
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post Sep 5 2013, 09:17 AM

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So they just add more worlds and fragmentation the player base even further? Whose stupid idea is that? Really, this is like adding more useless Pentium4 rather than upgrade to i7...

Tbh, I really don't see any huge crowd (I mean, like what you saw in GW2) in the game despite the server I'm on require me to queue for login, which means the server suppose to be "full". How much is that? 1000 players only? Luckily still, duty finder is cross-worlds, otherwise people will rage even more.

People are pissed, is SE just want the problem to fix it self? (player leave).

This post has been edited by xonedl: Sep 5 2013, 09:23 AM
adrian27my
post Sep 5 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(riesjx @ Sep 5 2013, 12:20 AM)
i can login ADMANTOISE on NA!!!! YEY!!! find me <meh fisto> hehe biggrin.gif
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Anymore fellow in Adamantoise, pls add me "Adrian Cristopher" ;-)
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post Sep 5 2013, 09:42 AM

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those who played in both NA and JAP server, may I know how the difference in delay ? Does it affect much ?
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post Sep 5 2013, 09:45 AM

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NA is unbelievably smooth now, until I consider maining in Faerie instead of my Masamune character. That sucks though but there you go.
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:07 AM

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Hey guys,any FC i can join in Masamune??
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Rextor @ Sep 5 2013, 09:42 AM)
those who played in both NA and JAP server, may I know how the difference in delay ? Does it affect much ?
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so far everything smooth for me, except day 1, extremely laggy, no all is good

QUOTE(adrian27my @ Sep 5 2013, 09:25 AM)
Anymore fellow in Adamantoise, pls add me "Adrian Cristopher" ;-)
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i cant find u last nite sad.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:21 AM

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Quick Synthesis FTW!! (✌゚∀゚)☞
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:24 AM

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Seems like today is much easier to login, lets see what happens tonight ^^ fixed 1017 pls ~

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tennytyy
post Sep 5 2013, 10:35 AM

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Anyone here playing in Adamantoise?
I just started playing and i chosen this server, hope can add some players here who play in the same server too.
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(riesjx @ Sep 5 2013, 11:17 AM)
so far everything smooth for me, except day 1, extremely laggy, no all is good
i cant find u last nite sad.gif
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Me too! Can't find u also. Even search also no result come out. Strange! Try again tonight ;-)
ZeratoS
post Sep 5 2013, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(xonedl @ Sep 5 2013, 09:17 AM)
So they just add more worlds and fragmentation the player base even further? Whose stupid idea is that? Really, this is like adding more useless Pentium4 rather than upgrade to i7...

Tbh, I really don't see any huge crowd (I mean, like what you saw in GW2) in the game despite the server I'm on require me to queue for login, which means the server suppose to be "full". How much is that? 1000 players only? Luckily still, duty finder is cross-worlds, otherwise people will rage even more.

People are pissed, is SE just want the problem to fix it self? (player leave).
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You have not a single clue about how datacenters work lol.

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First, not everything scales linearly. Within a given 'world', in the servers that handle people online, you may have one 'server' that can handle 5000 people online at once, but adding a second server may not get you to 10000; two servers together may only be able to handle 9000 people; three servers might only get 12000, four might allow for 14000, and five might support 16000.

This can be due to the overhead of managing multiple characters and multiple interactions. If you have two people in one zone, and you're updating their positions every 1 second, you have to send 2 updates every second per person (updating each person with their official location and everyone else's location), so 4 updates total. If you have 4 people (twice the number of people) you have to send 16 updates per second. If you have 8 people, you're sending 64 updates per second (each 8 person getting 8 updates). This is a really simplified example, but it shows how 2+2 can be a lot more than 4.

So if you have a case like that, you have the option of spending those 'five servers' on one world to handle 16,000 people, or five worlds to handle 25,000 people. This is why the solution to capacity problems in MMOs is usually to open new worlds, and not just to grow existing ones.



https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1l7...ged_guide_from/

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post Sep 5 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 5 2013, 10:44 AM)
You have not a single clue about how datacenters work lol.
https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1l7...ged_guide_from/

Read and understand.
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I think solution-wise, this should be complicated for SE, either they add more server capacity which might not even alleviate the problems now or anyone else thinking a huge server merge can help?

Server merging might make hunting monsters harder too

Adding more server capacity means more people can come also mean monster hunting get hard too

Feeling like stuck in a quandary now sweat.gif

It's like no matter what SE does the problem does not help

This post has been edited by N30rang3r: Sep 5 2013, 10:59 AM
ZeratoS
post Sep 5 2013, 11:01 AM

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Server capacity does not scale linearly.

Congratulations Lowyat. We have officially talked more out of our buttocks than reddit and 4chan combined. Just abit more and we'll be on par with the Americans smile.gif

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post Sep 5 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Sep 5 2013, 11:01 AM)
Server capacity is does not scale linearly.

Congratulations Lowyat. We have officially talked more out of our buttocks than reddit and 4chan combined. Just abit more and we'll be on par with the Americans smile.gif
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No, please don't say it like that. I just felt that SE has a bigger problem on their hands right now; might not have put the words properly though in what I just posted
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:03 AM

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After adding more server (New world), SE should give out free world transfer to whoever who apply it. So if you think your current world is congested, you and your frends can apply to transfer to a new world with lesser capacity to cater to.

SE will need to track how many ppl they permit to transfer to the new world or else the same issue will happen again.

This tactic is used by WoW when they are facing congestion issue long time ago and it works like a charm.
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(N30rang3r @ Sep 5 2013, 11:02 AM)
No, please don't say it like that. I just felt that SE has a bigger problem on their hands right now; might not have put the words properly though in what I just posted
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Oh no, its not intended for you^. I meant our community.

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onibaru
post Sep 5 2013, 11:08 AM

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In gw2 not everything runs on server. Some on client as dictated by Anet. So less load on server equals to more players able to o9. Eg players location runs on client 1st then later uploaded to server. (teleport/speed hack r a common)
Thats y the game is a b2play only and no need to sub.
Lower cost to maintain the servers. A business model by NCsoft.
Another one is sub2play. The upcoming Wildstar.
So NCsoft have access to all data, where the mmorpg crowd prefers to.
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:15 AM

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any JP/TIAMAT server player?

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post Sep 5 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(adrian27my @ Sep 5 2013, 10:37 AM)
Me too! Can't find u also. Even search also no result come out. Strange! Try again tonight ;-)
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U guys both have to ve online i velieve

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