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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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reijikageyama
post Sep 7 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 7 2013, 10:21 AM)
See that's what i meant. We know about it coming on first week of October in Malaysia but there are no news yet from our Maxis and Celcom friends despite Sony having a media only event of the phone in Malaysia. If there is someone will say in the forums already....
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keep in mind that it's still insider info regarding SG telcos i posted and no official announcements or anything. only hardwarezone in sg which is similar to lowyat in MY doh.gif doh.gif

not everything is better in SG lah
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post Sep 7 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Sep 7 2013, 10:23 AM)
keep in mind that it's still insider info regarding SG telcos i posted and no official announcements or anything. only hardwarezone in sg which is similar to lowyat in MY doh.gif doh.gif

not everything is better in SG lah
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maybe compared with Maxis and Singtel phone offerings....and oh forget about Celcom they are still offering expired phones rolleyes.gif doh.gif

we know phone offerings is not just for fun right? It is something to do with the market forces hence why I say we are 10 years behind.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 7 2013, 10:29 AM)
maybe compared with Maxis and Singtel phone offerings....and oh forget about Celcom they are still offering expired phones  rolleyes.gif  doh.gif

we know phone offerings is not just for fun right? It is something to do with the market forces hence why I say we are 10 years behind....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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market forces do not include catering to different income groups? doh.gif

singtel/m1/starhub also offer outdated phones, just not on the website. sweat.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Sep 7 2013, 10:36 AM)
market forces do not include catering to different income groups? doh.gif

singtel/m1/starhub also offer outdated phones, just not on the website. sweat.gif
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well in that case, if they already have so many new phones on offer online plus expired phones in their store won't that means they are the best on what they do? shakehead.gif

market forces is not just about income groups... btw, it is called phone subsidy for a reason and phone subsidy does not apply only to high end phones....maybe because we are in a high end phone thread you think is all about income... laugh.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 7 2013, 10:55 AM)
well in that case, if they already have so many new phones on offer online plus expired phones in their store won't that means they are the best on what they do?  shakehead.gif

market forces is not just about income groups... btw, it is called phone subsidy for a reason and phone subsidy does not apply only to high end phones....maybe because we are in a high end phone thread you think is all about income...  laugh.gif  sweat.gif
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and Maxis/Digi/Celcom don't have that range? sweat.gif if like that then why not compare with US? they get certain phone models slower and gets loaded on with extra crap. compare apples with apples la bro

not only income. different needs as well. doh.gif wait, why suddenly bring in phone subsidy when we're talking about carriers not stocking or at least announcing the latest phones? all i'm saying is your point of Malaysia being 10 years behind Singapore is just downright dumb. Singapore, believe it or not, does not have the best of everything.
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post Sep 7 2013, 12:14 PM

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Ops, got people shared the news blush.gif

This post has been edited by Andrew_1980: Sep 7 2013, 12:16 PM
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post Sep 7 2013, 12:15 PM

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Sample photos taken by Z1 from GSMArena. Judge yourself the quality...

20.7MP - 4:3 ratio

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8.0MP - 16:9 ratio

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You can actually download the actual size photo. The compression is quite high! a 20.7MP photo only around 4.3MB
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_cam...h-news-6732.php

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 12:15 PM)
Sample photos taken by Z1 from GSMArena. Judge yourself the quality...

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You can actually download the actual size photo. The compression is quite high! a 20.7MB photo only around 4.3MB
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_cam...h-news-6732.php
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Typo, is 20.7MP not 20.7MB tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 7 2013, 12:17 PM)
Typo, is 20.7MP not 20.7MB tongue.gif
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I correct already. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 7 2013, 08:09 AM)
Reply them back lor... I think they forgot to include the wifi adapter... rclxms.gif

Typical Nokia... always feel like they are the best... and yet only sold less than 10m smartphones annually.
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post Sep 7 2013, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 11:15 AM)
Sample photos taken by Z1 from GSMArena. Judge yourself the quality...

20.7MP - 4:3 ratio

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8.0MP - 16:9 ratio

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You can actually download the actual size photo. The compression is quite high! a 20.7MP photo only around 4.3MB
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_cam...h-news-6732.php
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does the compression affect the photo quality anot ?
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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 7 2013, 12:42 PM)
does the compression affect the photo quality anot ?
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Quite OK. Not really noticeable compression except you zoom out.

What quite obvious noticeable now is the output photo all no sharp at side. (I not means the far distance or background blur, that is awesome due to big aperture, but I mean is the side area not as sharp as it suppose).
This is no good and hardly to fixed due to mainly the lens issue.

I don't feel the quality is wow now after see more and more sample.

Sony having a weak light source in photo, the output is quite dimmer compare with others (base on one of the sample link I seen here). This is the case also in my ex. Z in earlier firmware.

When real unit out, I gonna test at shop and transfer to my phone and later judge when view at PC. I need to judge base on myself carry the phone and snap myself.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 11:48 AM)
Quite OK. Not really noticeable compression except you zoom out.

What quite obvious noticeable now is the output photo all no sharp at side. (I not means the far distance or background blur, that is awesome due to big aperture, but I mean is the side area not as sharp as it suppose).
This is no good and hardly to fixed due to mainly the lens issue.

I don't feel the quality is wow now after see more and more sample.

Sony having a weak light source in photo, the output is quite dimmer compare with others (base on one of the sample link I seen here). This is the case also in my ex. Z in earlier firmware.

When real unit out, I gonna test at shop and transfer to my phone and later judge when view at PC. I need to judge base on myself carry the phone and snap myself.
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will you be interested in this phone too? or ur just gonna hop to note 3?

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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 7 2013, 01:26 PM)
will you be interested in this phone too? or ur just gonna hop to note 3?
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I won't buy this Z1, hehe...

Nothing fancy me on Z1
  • Screen too small, I cannot accept 5" phone already.
  • The bezel look crazy big, it look big than Z Ultra or Z a lot.
  • Not slimmer like Z or Z Ultra.
  • I never put high hope in Sony Camera.


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post Sep 7 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Sep 7 2013, 11:15 AM)
and Maxis/Digi/Celcom don't have that range? sweat.gif if like that then why not compare with US? they get certain phone models slower and gets loaded on with extra crap. compare apples with apples la bro

not only income. different needs as well. doh.gif wait, why suddenly bring in phone subsidy when we're talking about carriers not stocking or at least announcing the latest phones? all i'm saying is your point of Malaysia being 10 years behind Singapore is just downright dumb. Singapore, believe it or not, does not have the best of everything.
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why 10 years? lol is just an arbitrary no I pull off and i have no idea why you could be so aggravated over it and resorted to name calling??? shakehead.gif doh.gif

we are neither lagging in tech nor content but for the lack of choices we are! so to bring it in phone subsidy is the focal point..without phone subsidy who wants to be tied to a contract and if there are no takers then why would we even care about what phones they have in stock? can u finally see now? yawn.gif rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 01:41 PM)
I won't buy this Z1, hehe...

Nothing fancy me on Z1

  • Screen too small, I cannot accept 5" phone already.
  • The bezel look crazy big, it look big than Z Ultra or Z a lot.
  • Not slimmer like Z or Z Ultra.
  • I never put high hope in Sony Camera.

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Ya, that day the IFA announce Z1 I saw it and felt no surprise and any interest

And the note 3 too, I have no interest on this Z1 and Note 3, so decided to stick XZU biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 7 2013, 02:56 PM)
Ya, that day the IFA announce Z1 I saw it and felt no surprise and any interest

And the note 3 too, I have no interest on this Z1 and Note 3, so decided to stick XZU biggrin.gif
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I seen the Z1 presentation nearly fall in sleep.

Note 3 interested me, so tempted. Ops! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 03:02 PM)
I seen the Z1 presentation nearly fall in sleep.

Note 3 interested me, so tempted. Ops! tongue.gif
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Bro,what attract u about the note 3? Screen size and 4k video ?
I heard that note3 comes with better battery saving technology then other same processor phone .
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 7 2013, 03:18 PM)
Bro,what attract u about the note 3? Screen size and 4k video ?
I heard that note3 comes with better battery saving technology then other same processor phone .
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1080p 60fps drool.gif drool.gif
others feature... meh.. nothing special.
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 7 2013, 03:18 PM)
Bro,what attract u about the note 3? Screen size and 4k video ?
I heard that note3 comes with better battery saving technology then other same processor phone .
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I really love it optimize the S-Pen this time, I love those features.

Not the screen size, I hope it is 6" at least.

4K Video already can play in my XZU, recording is not really attracting me.

And I really love it use faux leather in the back. icon_rolleyes.gif

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