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post Aug 28 2024, 07:20 AM

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Synology latest DSM 7.2.2 update will remove the app Video Station. Just a heads up for those that use the app before installing the latest update. They never state the reason, only how to use this party app
https://kb.synology.com/en-global/DSM/tutor...on_Synology_NAS
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post Sep 15 2024, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 28 2024, 07:20 AM)
Synology latest DSM 7.2.2 update will remove the app Video Station. Just a heads up for those that use the app before installing the latest update. They never state the reason, only how to use this party app
https://kb.synology.com/en-global/DSM/tutor...on_Synology_NAS
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Synology pulled out this update because it's not clearer on the details. The new update Version: 7.2.2-72806 was released and looks like in addition to removal of Video Station, they also pruning H.265/HEVC, HEIC/HEIF, H.264/AVC and VC-1 codecs on OS level, except Surveillance Station still retain H.264/AVC. Probably due to licensing fess changes. Now video decoding is moved to the client side, and you'll need additional software and browser extension on PC for Photos.
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4. Starting from this version, the processing of media files using HEVC (H.265), AVC (H.264), and VC-1 codecs will be transitioned from the server to end devices to reduce unnecessary resource usage on the system and enhance system efficiency. These codecs are widespread on end devices such as smartphones, tablets, computers, and smart TVs. If the end device does not support the required codecs, the use of media files may be limited. Refer to this article for workarounds. In addition, please note the following exceptions:
  * Surveillance Station on DSM will continue to support server-side processing of AVC (H.264) streams, see the release notes.
  * Deep Video Analytics (DVA) series models and VisualStation clients will retain support for AVC (H.264) and HEVC (H.265) codecs.

5. To ensure package compatibility, Advanced Media Extensions (AME), File Station, Media Server, Surveillance Station, Synology Drive, Universal Search, Synology Photos and Snapshot Replication will automatically update to the latest version.

6. Video Station is not available on DSM 7.2.2. Refer to this article for workarounds to stream videos to end devices.
Gonna wait this first to see how everything panned out

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post Oct 27 2024, 09:52 AM

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Finally took the plunge and update to DSM 7.2.2
It give a long words of warning what will happen once you update it.
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And the update can't proceed until I uninstall Video Station

For my usage there's no difference. HEVC video uploaded from my phone will still playback on PC browser without the need to install the Synology Image Assistant app or the browser extension. I guess the app is for upload from PC but previously it is also won't playback HEVC if upload from PC, now maybe with the app it can playback.
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post Oct 27 2024, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Oct 26 2024, 11:39 PM)


Has anyone here using the 2.5G/5G dongle 'hack' for their Syno NAS?
Which brand of adapter is available to purchase here in MY?
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I remember last time someone in this thread mention he use a 2.5Gb USB adapter.
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post Oct 27 2024, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Sep 19 2024, 09:34 PM)
Still using Plex  notworthy.gif
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I'm using Jellyfin. On my PC with browser, phone with Jellyfin app and Google TV with Jellyfin app, all can playback after update. I only direct stream, didn't use the server convert function.
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post Nov 1 2024, 10:54 PM

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Ever since from DSM 7, when uploading HEVC/h.265 video on PC with web browser, it won't generate compressed video that will be used by the web browser for playback. I remember with DSM 6 it will generate compressed video.

Hence now Synology comes up with Image Assistant app and extension to solve this. And this is what I wanna try now
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The app must be running in the back ground and the extension must be installed and enabled on the web browser then only it can create compressed video for playback on web browser. The app doesn't have much settings that can be tweaked

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First I try with the app installed but the extension not installed. HEVC video uploaded by web browser to Photos can't be playback in the web browser.

Then I try upload after extension installed. Now the web browser can play back the HEVC video. But something seems off.

This is the video thumbnail
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And this is when the video playback in web browser
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It looks like the video have a grey layer on top of it.

I tried using Photos app on my phone to upload the same HEVC video, it also will make a compressed video for web browser playback. This is when the video from phone playback on web browser.
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Now it doesn't have the grayish look.


To make sure really have issue, I tried with another old video that I uploaded from phone few months ago.
The thumbnail
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Playback
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Now I re-upload again from web browser and let Synology Image Assistant do the compressed video.
The playback
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Again have the grayish look.

The Image Assistant solve the issue of creating compressed video for web browser playback, but it create another issue. Looks like for now I still have to use my phone to upload video.
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post Nov 3 2024, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 3 2024, 09:08 AM)
I've just changed my ISP from Unifi to Maxis. I am now unable to use Synology NAS outside of my home. I am still using the same TP link AX73 router and only changed the ISP settings from Unifi to Maxis. Does anyone know how to enable router access?
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Previously you're using public IP and port forward? Maxis now is private IP?

I don't know if can request Maxis to give you public IP. The other 2 options is by using Synology QuickConnect or Tailscale to be the middle-men that connect your NAS with other device from internet.

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post Nov 23 2024, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(denver1347 @ Nov 23 2024, 04:18 PM)
I have a synology at home Malaysia.
My home using unifi 300mbps (Pro Upgrade 500mbps)

May I know is there a way I can let my family download file from it ?
Family is in Singapore.

** Because file is 400gb, looking away to let them download directly instead of using google drive **
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One way is to setup Tailscale or Zerotier on your Synology NAS, and they need to install Tailscale or Zerotier client on their devices. Then they can directly connect to your NAS.

Another way is if you got public IP then can setup port forward and use DDNS for OpenVPN or QuickConnect but this is more technical.
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post Nov 25 2024, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ntw @ Nov 23 2024, 06:17 PM)
I have Unifi 100Mbps Pro Upgrade to 300Mbps, lost my public IP last week. Migrated some services that I share with my parents to Cloudflare Tunnel and non-shared services using Tailscale.

For Synology, didn't they have File Station and QuickConnect feature that can be Synology drives remotely?
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Without port forwarding QuickConnect would attempt to establish a virtual tunnel, Hole Punching. If it's able to then you'll get good speed. If not then it will go through Synology Relay Server, in this case the speed would be throttled.
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post Dec 13 2024, 08:57 PM

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Recently Synology updated its Drive app to support directly editing .txt and .md files within the app. Finally there's a solution for .md files user that also sync it on multiple devices of different OS such as Windows, Android, Mac OS and also iOS. Only on iOS it can't sync files in Synology Drive to folder that other app can access due to iOS sandboxed environment restriction. Now on iOS can directly edit the file. Previously I have to manually copy out, edit on markdown app, then upload back.


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When the eye is enabled, it will show the markdown syntax.


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When disabled, it will hide the markdown syntax and show how it would looked like.


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At the bottom it also have buttons for some common uses syntax
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post Feb 11 2025, 09:10 AM

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Past few months or a year or so, there's a sudden surge of Seagate HDD being sold at considerably low prices that what it usually is. Recently it was exposed those are used HDD with its S.M.A.R.T info wiped out. Now new info have come out, those HDD were from Chia crypto mining farms. Even the seller doesn't know it is used HDD

Used Seagate drives sold as new traced back to crypto mining farms
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A widespread scandal involving used Seagate hard drives fraudulently sold as new has continued to escalate, with new evidence suggesting that the drives originated from Chinese cryptocurrency mining farms. The drives, many of which had logged 15,000 to 50,000 hours of prior use, were reportedly altered to appear unused before re-entering the retail supply chain.

The first reports of affected drives surfaced in January, when consumers noticed inconsistencies in supposedly new Seagate Exos disk drives used in data centers. The issue has since expanded globally, with over 200 confirmed cases across Europe, Australia, Thailand, and Japan. While Seagate maintains that these products did not come from its official distribution channels, the scandal raises serious concerns about unauthorized resellers and supply chain security.

An investigation by Heise suggests that the fraudulent HDDs were sourced from mining operations in China to mine Chia, a cryptocurrency that caused a surge in HDD demand before becoming economically unviable.

During the Chia mining boom, demand for high-capacity hard drives skyrocketed, leading to shortages and price surges. However, as the profitability of Chia mining declined, many operations shut down, flooding the market with used hardware. It now appears that some of these used drives were relabeled and resold as new, deceiving both retailers and consumers.

Although standard SMART parameters track HDD usage, these values were reset to obscure the actual wear and tear. However, a more in-depth check using FARM (Field-Accessible Reliability Metrics) values can reveal a drive's true operational history. Consumers concerned about their purchases can verify their drives using Smartmontools version 7.4+ (use command: smartctl -l farm /dev/sda) or Seagate's SeaTools software.

Retailers impacted by the scandal have taken different approaches to address customer complaints. Some have acknowledged that they unknowingly sold these manipulated drives and are offering refunds or exchanges.

Seagate has distanced itself from the fraudulent sales, saying that it did not distribute the affected drives. It urges affected buyers to report their cases via fraud@seagate.com. The company has launched an internal investigation and is collaborating with retailers and law enforcement to track the fraudulent resellers.

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post Feb 12 2025, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Feb 12 2025, 01:41 PM)
anyway to run this tool on Synology NAS?
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This video he have SSH into Synology NAS to run some checks
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post Feb 13 2025, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 12 2025, 03:38 PM)
Plenty in Shopee.

I m skeptical and ask the seller got warranty or not. But no answer.
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I also saw the cheaper HDD in Shopee and was skeptical on the unusually low price. Lucky that time I wasn't in need of HDD

QUOTE(trix @ Feb 12 2025, 04:11 PM)
bought a few seagate ironwolf 6tb from lazada back in 2023
smartctl -x returns power on hours as 9335 (~1.4 years)
smartctl -l farm returns power on hours as 38028 (~4.3 years)

price was cheap when i bought it, label also has typo
at least it was usable, and i only stored plex media files on it

btw, the shop was jasonaccess/TechAccessories
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The seller advertise it as new HDD?
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post Feb 13 2025, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(trix @ Feb 13 2025, 09:19 AM)
yup advertised as new
my thoughts at the time was this was failed qa smuggled out of factory
label was also reprinted and contains typo

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This is when newly bought? Actual already 4 years and 4 months? sweat.gif
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(K-o-E @ Feb 19 2025, 12:39 PM)
Sifus,

I'm split between Synology DS1522+ and Lockerstor AS6706T. Looking to multi-purpose the device; for file storage and some for streaming. They are about the same price but with some dramatically different specs. I've been reading thru pages upon pages but I guess local sifus are my best bet  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

Thanks
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AS6706T have iGPU, if you need to reencode before stream, this is the only choice between these 2 NAS.
Intel Celeron N5105 seems slightly faster than AMD Ryzen R1600, but if just for file transfer then likely the difference is not noticeable.

DS1522+ have 1 more 3.5 bay while AS6706T have 2 more M.2 SSD and I believe it's not locked to any specific M.2 SSD unlike Synology need to use it's proprietary SSD if for storage. The LAN port is also 2.5GbE and there's PCIE slot that's not proprietary so can use 10GbE card for cheaper if you need the speed. DS1522+ also PCIE slot for 10GbE card but it's proprietary.

OS and software wise undoubtedly Synology is more polished and have more apps that can give similar feel to most of Google apps. If you plan to use the NAS apps than Synology have the upper hand, if you going for open source apps and run everything on Docker then both can do it.

You can try Synology OS demo and also it's apps demo by using this link below
https://demo.synology.com/en-global/dsm

Asustor also have it's live demo site for you to try the OS and it's apps
https://www.asustor.com/live_demo
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QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Mar 17 2025, 05:01 PM)
Hi kinda new to this. Thinking to get Synology. May I know what is the reasonable price per TB for the HDD? Seems like there's no standard price. Was thinking to get 2x 16tb
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Check online for the price of the 3 big brands, Western Digital, Seagate and Toshiba.
Usually the bigger capacity HDD price per TB is more higher. Lowest price per TB is around 8 or 10 or 12 TB.

But you also need to consider your NAS bays, getting higher TB with not optimum price per TB but in the longer run you would not need to change your HDD to bigger capacity.

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post Mar 18 2025, 08:52 AM

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New NAS from Synology will be coming. USB C and 2.5 GbE will be useful and future proof. V1500B processor slightly weaker in single core than R1600 but a lot more powerful in multicore. Overall I feel it is just slight improvement over current models.

Synology introduces eight new NAS systems

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Synology recently expanded its NAS portfolio significantly again by introducing a series of new desktop NAS systems. The systems have different features and processors, but all feature 2.5 Gbps Ethernet ports.

Synology recently announced a major update to its portfolio of desktop NAS systems, writes NasCompares based on a presentation from the NAS vendor. The update includes the introduction of the DS1525+, DS925+, DS725+, DS425+, DS225+, DS625slim, DS1825+ and DS1825xs+ models.

The announced DS925+ and DS1525+ systems are the successors to the DS923+ and DS1522+ models. Of the eight new models, they are the only ones to have received a new processor. Instead of previous models’ AMD Ryzen R1600 processor, the DS925+ and DS1525+ systems now feature a 2018 AMD Ryzen V1500B processor with four 2.2GHz cores and eight threads.

These models also replace the eSATA port for linking external storage with USB-C and feature 2.5Gbps Ethernet ports instead of the previous Ethernet ports of up to 1Gbps.

The new DS725+ is the successor to the older DS723+ and retains its predecessor’s AMD Ryzen R1600 processor. In addition to the familiar 2.5 Gbps Ethernet port, memory has increased from 2 GB to 4 GB.

The only change for the new DS425+ and DS225+ models, the successors to the 2023 DS423+ and DS224+ systems, is the addition of a 2.5 Gbps Ethernet port. These systems retain the Intel Celeron J4125 processor with four cores and a clock speed of 2 GHz. Based on information now known, this is also true for the successor to the compact DS620slim: the new DS625slim.

The new DS1825+ and DS1825xs+ desktop NAS systems, successors to the DS1821+ and DS1823xs+, also keep their used V1500B and V1780B processors, respectively. The DS1825xs+ still has its predecessor’s 10 Gbps Ethernet port. Whether the DS1825+ will get a 2.5 Gbps Ethernet port to replace the 1 Gbps port of its predecessor, the DS1821+, is not yet known.

Synology’s new desktop NAS systems are likely to hit the market between now and the summer of this year. Definitive release dates have not yet been announced, and the prices of the new systems are also not yet known.

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post Apr 24 2025, 08:14 PM

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Synology DiskStation DS925+ review: A terrific NAS ruined by baffling limitations

The DiskStation DS925+ brings much-needed upgrades, but Synology's hard drive restrictions make it hard to recommend.

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The successor to the best-selling DS923+ shares the same design, but it comes with dual 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet ports as standard, and it has upgraded internals thanks to a quad-core Ryzen V1500B. It has four standard drive bays in addition to dual M.2 slots, and you can use SSDs to store data in addition to caching.

However, the launch isn't without controversy; with the DiskStation DS925+, Synology is limiting its Plus models to its own hard drives, so you can't use Seagate's IronWolf, Exos, or Western Digital's Red Plus HDDs with the NAS.

When setting up the DS925+, I slotted in two 6TB IronWolf drives as I usually do with all NAS reviews, but it wouldn't even install DiskStation Manager (DSM). I got a dialog box noting the drives were unrecognized, and that I had to do a manual install — which wasn't possible as I was testing the NAS under embargo.

For reasons I don't follow, Synology chose to enforce the use of its own hard drives in consumer DiskStation models — which is exactly what it said it wouldn't do in 2021.

Then there's the issue with pricing; in broad strokes, Synology's drives are considerably costlier than their immediate rivals. To give you some context, Seagate's terrific 24TB Exos X24 drive is down to $479 right now, and while Synology doesn't have a 24TB drive, the 20TB HAT5310 retails for $719, a premium of 34% while providing less storage.

It's official, Synology dooming the new models launch and future models too. Which type of consumer that going to buy it? Light users just for storing photos and files can get by using lesser polished software from other brands but more cheaper, power users will want more storage and that will push the cost to run the NAS a lot higher.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...spill-the-beans
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According to German news outlet Heise, notable progress has been made regarding the counterfeit Seagate hard drive case. Just like something out of an action movie, security teams from Seagate's Singapore and Malaysian offices, in conjunction with local Malaysian authorities, conducted a raid on a warehouse in May that was engaged in cooking up counterfeit Seagate hard drives, situated outside Kuala Lumpur.

During the raid, authorities reportedly uncovered approximately 700 counterfeit Seagate hard drives, with SMART values that had been reset to facilitate their sale as new. The confiscated batch included several models from Seagate's extensive hard drive range, with capacities reaching up to 18TB. However, Seagate-branded drives were not the only items involved, as authorities also discovered drives from Kioxia and Western Digital.

Seagate suspects that the used hard drives originated from China during the Chia boom. Following the cryptocurrency's downfall, numerous miners sold these used drives to workshops where many were illicitly repurposed to appear new. This bust may represent only the tip of the iceberg, as Heise estimates that at least one million of these Chia drives are circulating, although the exact number that have been recycled remains uncertain.

The clandestine workshop, likely one of many establishments in operation, reportedly employed six workers. Their responsibilities included resetting the hard drives' SMART values, cleaning, relabeling, and repackaging them for distribution and sale via local e-commerce platforms. Occasionally, it's said that workers would upgrade the hard drives to enhance their market value, such as converting a Barracuda into an IronWolf or SkyHawk model.

The modus operandi encompassed all activities from priming the counterfeit hard drives to their sale. In fact, this method led to the apprehension of the suspects. The perpetrators were reportedly marketing these counterfeit hard drives on prominent platforms such as Shopee and Lazada at exceptionally low prices. According to the source, an unidentified Malaysian sales manager flagged the hard drives and subsequently alerted Seagate's security department, which purchased one of the drives and confirmed its fraudulent nature. Seagate collaborated with local law enforcement agencies to trace the goods back to the warehouse, resulting in a subsequent raid. After all, you can't just go kicking in doors on these types of unlawful activities, since criminal syndicates often oversee these scams. It's not something that an average Joe is doing inside a garage or in the backyard at scale.


So the used HDD repurposed and some even relabeled is not all from China. Local syndicate also involved.
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Hello @RogerStocker,
Thanks for your candid comment! We know that many users would like more flexibility with HDDs. We are currently in discussions with manufacturers to ensure that third-party hard drives will be officially supported again in the future. However, this is a process that won’t be completed overnight.
We will keep you updated – thank you for your patience! 💡

https://mariushosting.com/synology-third-pa...-in-the-future/

Hard to say if this can be seen as confirmation from Synology that it will reverse decision and allow use of third party hard drives again. If it is, it's a win for consumer and for Synology too.

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