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 NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2

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post Sep 30 2021, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 03:10 PM)
Hi guys and all the NAS experts. A very newbie here want to ask a question about NAS.

Can anyone recommend me one NAS server for my company use? The main purpose is only for file sharing.

Currenly I'm using oldschool method:
- Use a normal CPU
- create a root sharing folder,
- create sub folders for each user/dept.
- then copy the link for each subfolder and create a desktop shortcut to each user's pc. (for example, if HR dept staff, the desktop shortcut link will be something like "\\192.168.1.20\DESKTOP-1111222\shared\hr", and so on.

It's a very oldschool method, I know. And it becomes problem now since we're still in working from home schedule, so need to come to office first to copy the files and bring back to home. Later go back to office and replace the updated files. It's very tiring and ineffective.

So I think NAS is the solution. Based on the purpose mentioned above, anyone can recommend me which NAS should I buy?

A very thank you to everyone.
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Do you have experience in IT or some sort NAS?

You might want to consider the cloud 1st.

Takecare the NAS is not easy. Security data and hardware require some experience.


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post Sep 30 2021, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Sep 30 2021, 09:48 PM)
I see. How hard to take care of the NAS? My experience in Networking is only at the minimum level coz I am more to Admin, managing databases..

As for cloud, yes I'm quite experience in that since my company subscribe with Google Suite Basic and I am the Admin, it's just I think NAS provide better in long term solution.
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Minimum experience should be ok I guess.

If you take care the NAS, you have to responsible for the data security. Not easy task.

From my experience of information for the NAS disaster,

1) the NAS Synology get hack and kena ramson ware. The company is near my home. All the data gone as the boss don’t want pay.
2) A LY guy here house get break in. Took away the Synology NAS. All gone.

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post Oct 1 2021, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Oct 1 2021, 12:58 AM)
with recent ransomware experience, now i go for office 365, to re-stall one drive data just few click away, i even setup office 365 my friend law firm, which they happy with it now.
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How the 365 prevent ransomware ?


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post Oct 11 2022, 10:26 AM

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Last month my house have this TNB irregular electric voltage incoming. It comes down as low as 140v and goes up back to 220v (still low).

It detects by my UPS which keeps on switching to the backup battery and normal mode. But I thought it was the UPS or battery got problem. The irregular voltage also detects by the flurosent light and the fan speed.

Switch off the UPS and the NAS. ON back later the UPS but immediately smoke coming out. My UPS gone. cry.gif The NAS remain OFF for few more days as I order a new UPS.

TNB solves the voltage problem later on.

After getting a new UPS and connecting back everything, the NAS cannot be ON. bangwall.gif

So I change the battery in the NAS. Same problem. This time suspects the PS problem. Order a new PS and install it back. NAS can power ON again.

Then check inside the data. HDD has an error. The Backup folder is missing. (which is important) mad.gif So repair the HDD and back to normal. Check upon check, the backup folder when into encryption. Which I didn't have or set into encryption anything. Lucky I able to use password to unlock it. (don't no where the heck password come from)

1 hell of the problem solve by the TNB problem. ranting.gif

The thing I cannot understand is, the NAS PS rating at 110v -240v, but spoil also. The NAS power OFF as normal. (not immediately power gone) But effect data inside change. (Maybe because of battery change?)

Another lesson learn from this, get a UPS that has an Auto voltage regulator. To prevent such problems. I m using APC Pro 650 now.

Old UPS smoke
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Check the PS
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New UPS
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post Oct 12 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 11 2022, 09:43 PM)
I thought most UPS have AVR? Maybe the UPS component inside already deteriorate and can't properly regulate voltage.

Maybe when you turn back ON the UPS, it send spike of current to NAS and kill the PSU. Last time my UPS also suddenly died, luckily didn't cause any damage to NAS. The UPS turn off by itself and can't be turned on anymore. I guess lucky also can't turn on otherwise might send spike to my NAS. Another lesson is before test ON the UPS, unplug everything first.

How you repair the HDD to get back the backup folder? Possible you have set encryption to the folder before and forgotten about it? Encrypted folder need to enter the password to mount it every time NAS restart. It also won't show up in File Station until after mount.
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I think the old UPS doesn't have AVR. The UPS is over 12yrs old. The new UPS has AVR that can adjust 3 type of voltage sensitivity. But I think the range is still too wide.

The UPS has surge protector built in. And additional surge protector at the wall socket before UPS. So I don't think it is a surge. I have experienced a lightning surge through the network cable which spoils my NAS. The NAS cannot be repaired and I give to a member here.

Actually, I don't know there is an encryption future in the NAS. Till I experience the folder lock. And I don't have the password either. I tried all my passwords that I know but fail to unlock them. Last just try my luck with 1-8 passwords. And it unlocks!

Yesterday suddenly another problem came out. Fan 2 has a beep fault. But the fan is running fine. I need to further test it later by swap the fan.

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Additional the NAS is protected by 2set of network surge protector.

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post Nov 1 2022, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Oct 30 2022, 10:04 PM)
thanks, so skip Synology's branded HDD ? read somewhere that these are Toshiba OEM.

Between Seagate Ironwolf and WD Red, read that Ironwolf is really noisy ? The Synology will be in the same office as me, so the quieter the better tongue.gif
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Compare to previous WD red, Ironwollf is abit noisy.

But if just 2HDD NAS, that not so notice.
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post Mar 15 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 15 2023, 06:37 AM)
did you find any good deals for the 14TB version?
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Ironwolf 16TB drop to about RM1k from Amazon. Cheaper a lot now.
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post Mar 15 2023, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 15 2023, 10:17 AM)
Buying from Amazon SG site?
that price is very tempting as I cannot find any good deals on Lazada or Shopee
hhmm, I never bought anything from Amazon before, anything to look out for?
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Amazon US.

All my NAS 16TB is from Amazon US. Might get another set later.
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post Mar 15 2023, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 15 2023, 12:19 PM)
You got it and ship it to M'sia?
I will look into it then.
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Yup. I use 3rd party to ship. Not amazon. Cheaper cost.
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post Apr 12 2023, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Apr 12 2023, 09:40 AM)
The HDD seems cheap (compared to local price).
How do you manage the warranty part though?
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I don't care about the warranty. Take the risk.

It has been running for 3yrs now.
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post Apr 12 2023, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Apr 12 2023, 02:45 PM)
Is the any tax from MY side?
Or what you paid to Amazon during checkout is final?
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No tax from MY.
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post May 9 2023, 11:23 AM

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Over my 15yrs experience in NAS, SS is more reliable as is running at lower speed 5400rpm. Now using Seagate and WD is the shorter life.
But talk long time storage, hdd still better many others.
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post May 10 2023, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ May 9 2023, 10:52 PM)
what is SS?
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Samsung
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post May 24 2023, 09:33 AM

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Last week update to DSM 7.1.1-42962.

Regret. Damn, I have to learn the Synology Photo again. And rearrange all the photo.
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post May 25 2023, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 25 2023, 10:17 AM)
Previously you still on DSM 6.2?
Photos I feel looks better than Photo Station and Moments. Only the access permission a bit pain to setup.
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Previous is still DSM 6.2. I reluctant to change is because worry about the Photo and movie. I have ton's of it in the NAS.

It is not about the look. But the folder and file arrangement is according to my way with the older ver.

With DSM 7.1.1-42962, all change. The way pic arrange and album is different and present on the site.

Family and friend sharing had to setup again and I lost. I got to teach them again how to use. And they are not all in Malaysia.
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post May 25 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 25 2023, 11:13 AM)
Ouch, unless can downgrade back. DSM 6.2 also going to stop receiving update from 2024 IINM so changing to DSM 7 and Photos is inevitable.

The auto backup setting will be harder to do remotely as got many settings. Now also better can specify which folders in DCIM to backup, previously it will backup everything in DCIM but some phones and app the screenshot and edited photos also save in folder in DCIM which automatically also will be backup.
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That's why I m regret to update.

Now I m rushing to learn and organise some new photos into the NAS. Tomorrow got to teach a group of friends how to use and upload their photos. Farking hell.
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post Jun 21 2023, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 20 2023, 10:59 PM)
Is it safe to enable QuickConnect  sweat.gif  hmm.gif
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Been using QC for very long. Till now.

So far so good.
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post Nov 27 2023, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 27 2023, 07:44 PM)
20TB Seagate HDD is so cheap at Newegg... USD289 only
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Left 1pcs. sad.gif
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post Nov 27 2023, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 27 2023, 09:56 PM)
Still have.. tried to add 10 to cart but not safe to ship back to Malaysia right?
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I want the ironwolf NAS. $279

Not this green.
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post Nov 27 2023, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 27 2023, 10:25 PM)
Ah okay! Exos not good? Because it's written datacenter hard drive
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The green wan is for PC.

Red is for NAS. As what I know la.

I already have 4x16tb Ironwolf running. I need another 4set.

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