NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2
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 May 5 2014, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(wwkkww @ May 4 2014, 02:08 PM) Can someone guide me how to transfer files from synology to qnap on the same LAN the fastest way. I never played with those NAS before, but have found those NAS has feature known as FXP that allow FTP transfer between 2 servers/NASes. I have around 10TB data to transfer    |
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May 7 2014, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(ttz @ May 7 2014, 06:28 PM) Hey guys I'd like to ask what do you guys do when you need to upgrade the storage space on your NAS? Let's assume that you're using a 4 bay NAS with 1TB each running on RAID 5 and you run out of space and want to replace all 4 HDDs with 3TB ones. Is it possible to remove one 1TB HDD and replace it with a 3TB and rebuild and repeat till u replace all of it and then expand the storage to 9TB?  Good tutorial from....http://www.synology.com/en-global/support/tutorials/560  |
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May 14 2014, 06:54 PM
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First of all, learn how to use the [+QUOTE] and [EDIT] to avoid too many posts. QUOTE(petlu28 @ May 13 2014, 11:07 PM) 1) If I buy 2 bay NAS, can I mixed with surveillance hardisk? 1. All types of hard disk if supported, but if you going for RAID, it's advised to use same build of hard disk for best result.2) NAS compatible any sound system? 3) NASA can use for surf net & torrent? 2. NAS is for storage purpose, no sound output, just like a server. 3. It can torrent for you but not surf the net, it's not a PC to begin with, it's just a simple storage system (with some other server based features depends on the brand/model). QUOTE(petlu28 @ May 13 2014, 11:12 PM) May I know what Synology feature & functionality have? QUOTE(petlu28 @ May 13 2014, 11:40 PM) Are Synology add on package apps free or need purchase? Please use Google or just head on to Synology website to read, this is way beyond spoon feed.  |
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Aug 21 2014, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 21 2014, 04:52 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  And it's cheap (around RM800).And yes you can boot FreeNAS through USB pendrive. For me, I choose Windows Home Server, cost quite a bit but I can put all the Windows' programs into it, choose what I like to use on it, IRC client for download purpose?  You can add-on drive(s) in the future but you may not be able to utilize RAID, RAID construction will need to clean off all the drive before it start. 1. Just connect your NAS to your network anyway you prefer, but wired is recommended for stability and performance. 2. LAN does not concern your Internet, so your NAS will only runs in your LAN, and won't connect to the Internet unless you set the Gateway (point to your Maxis router). Your NAS to your other device speed will be greatly depends on your equipment, your router probably only runs off 100Mbps LAN so you get only around 11MB/s at peak transfer between NAS to a single device. |
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Aug 21 2014, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 21 2014, 01:30 PM) its an entire PC system afaik, for about <RM100 (if i secure the deal la) You can add-on SATA card into the system for more.  sadly, it seems theres only 2 SATA ports or 3 max from what i heard about the specs ouch, 11MB/s for writing? read wise? shouldnt have any prob streaming 1080p movies and anime right? thankfully, ill be the only hardcore user atm As for the speed, yes it's enough for Full HD streaming... on single device, if 2nd user also want to stream Full HD then it might not be as smooth. Gigabit switch is cheap...  |
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Aug 21 2014, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 21 2014, 02:00 PM) i can see the poison coming in  so the Gigabit switch will be connected from router's Gigabit LAN and sort of spread out for multiple LAN users? using this Technicolour router from Maxis, i think there is another Gigabit LAN port right?  I'm not so sure about the specification of the router but I can guarantee you will NOT regret spending on Gigabit performance, hitting hard disk bottleneck is another issue though. Transfer file like a breeze, 40MB file? You won't even see the transfer popup, just a flash through, few GBs in a minute... I did a transfer of 1.7TB in 8 hours... that's how fast Gigabit speed is, and yeah, the hard disk is kinda slow, between 60~80MB/s only If you have SSD.. Gigabit LAN is the bottleneck, well.. new tech is kinda expensive so... we shall wait |
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Aug 22 2014, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 21 2014, 11:05 PM) SSD NAS is gonna be so exp Oh my... that's... so slow? currently moving around 24GB to my NAS,7 hours  Why so slow? Its only 24GB.. you can use external hard disk and it's way faster than that. 20 minutes top from PC to external hard disk and back to PC (USB 2.0).QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 22 2014, 03:21 AM) wildwestgoh Only 200Mbps? The spec itself is already bottleneck, going max theoretically 23MB/s so you won't fully utilize the Gigabit switch. There's some much powerful one out there, if you don't mind to spend more... well that depends on your usage. say if im using a 200Mbps Homeplug connected through gigabit ethernet from router to my NAS at other floor, will the speeds be throttled by the Homeplugs? I don't mind drilling holes and pulling cables in my home, one of my friend even want to use Cat6 cable of which is overkill, but I'll advise him again. @Homeplug sifu out there: Is there a risk of using Homeplug when there's lightning/thunder? Because even the phone line able to fry a modem... My experience of see-ing my own modem hit by lightning and sparks lits up the room  luckily the whole house was blackout (due to trip) before huge one hits it, otherwise my PC would have gone with it as well.  |
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Aug 26 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 26 2014, 11:01 AM) I want to build a NAS. for torrent, host small MYSQL for XBMC, and host all my movies. I would go for custom build (PC build) for flexible choice of OS, and what more you needs MySQL.It will be 2TB first later will add-on more hdd. Max is 3 user stream Full HD movies at same time. - should I go for ready make NAS or build 1? - does processor and RAM effect a lot on the speed? - (Intel Celeron/ dual core/ AMD A4) enough for it? with 2GB RAM. Also custom build can add-on SATA card later on for more HDD, that's if your chassis will have room for more. CPU and RAM does affect but if it's home use and less than 10 users, old PC (less than 6 years old is pretty much enough). Intel C2D is powerful enough to run (Celeron is not recommended for SQL), 4GB RAM or better since you'll be hosting SQL server. Take note of using 64-bit OS to fully utilize the 4GB RAM. Also Server class OS (ex. Windows Server) has better network, services performance, cost more (linux free?), but you'll not regret the performance it gives you. You may need better hard disk than those Eco Green for more than 2 users streaming Full HD movies, need to cater for faster access rather than sequential read. If one user seeking his/her movie (skipping ahead or rewind back), it may be slow or other users may encounter slight pause. Unless of course you can be sure that all 3 users are accessing from different hard disk. This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Aug 26 2014, 11:37 AM |
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Aug 26 2014, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 26 2014, 11:57 AM) WD green good? If you want to stream more than 2 users, best to get WD Blue or better Black, they're 7,200 rpm and has better access speed, bandwidth is not an issue.I got a old c2d laptop. but no sata to power up the hdd. What spec u all can recommend me? not too expensive but can expend later. Laptop? I won't recommend it unless you're going to strip it nekkid with proper cooling, plus laptop can't expand, you gets 2 SATA, and that's all, and that's also you have to go for 2.5" HDD, much expensive, smaller size. Desktop is the way to go, get any board (cheap one will do) with - 4x SATA for better start, - then get the cheapest CPU, RAM (4GB should the standard nowadays) - PSU can get 450W, bronze or 80 Plus certified is recommended for long term 24/7 usage. I can't get the quote for you, you will need to ask at Q&A or hunt for yourself, and even those are just reference, you may find better products or better price by then. Also you need to cater for cooling as well, better ventilated chassis is way to extend your components lifespan. If you want low noise, may invest on better fan or just tune them to runs on 5v (if they're freaking noisy at 12v). My current setup: Intel C2D E8400 @ 0.95v, 1.6GHz (down-clock from stock 3.0GHz for power saving and cooler running CPU) 2GB RAM (may just plug in another 2GB, but sufficient for now) 1x 500GB (OS, programs and small downloads) 1x 3TB (bought recently to replace 2TB one) 2x 2TB (main storage for archive) CM Elite 344 with front cut off fan's hole for better cool air draw. - 120mm Silverstone AP121 to push air through the HDD - 90cm exhaust fan with 5v mod for quiet operation - 120mm Vantec (some old) fan with 12v for quiet operation (custom for PSU) All these is from experience with many years of setup and of course daily monitoring of the components' temperature. May consider air flow centric fan for cooling the HDD instead of the AP121, AP121 has high static pressure but not enough cool air circulate through the HDD. This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Aug 26 2014, 01:19 PM |
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Aug 28 2014, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 28 2014, 10:36 AM) Do you all do RAID? what hdd is better with high capacity. WD Blue only 1tb. I want hdd 4TB or above. Which have longer life. RPM will prolong the life of hdd? 7,200 rpm or IntelliPower? Want to move into RAID? Software RAID? Hardware RAID?WDC and Seagate both has HDD specialize for RAID purpose, consumer and even the enterprise grade. Storage based HDD usually has lower RPM, enterprise however has 7,200rpm and above ($$$) Lifespan of HDD is very subjective, RPM (Revolution Per Minute) does not concern much on the lifespan, rather I would say proper maintenance and equipment to support the HDD is main thing that keep the lifespan higher, but lucks play some part here, some may just fail you when the time's up. Some quicker, some slower.  p/s: I don't do RAID, I guess I watch the SMART everyday... check the temperature everyday... pray a bit everyday... should be safe... This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Aug 28 2014, 05:11 PM |
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Aug 29 2014, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(kherel77 @ Aug 28 2014, 05:29 PM) So for custom build NAS + htpc, need higher processing power or more RAM? Any thought wildwestgoh? That's depends on your HTPC requirements, watching movies only? Blu-Ray or 4K proof?Blu-Ray only can use Core i3, no extra graphics card needed, save $$. 4K may require some special display port such as DisplayPort or HDMI so a graphics card is required, maybe low-mid range with such ports available will do. OS need to be considered as well due to combined NAS setup, media centre with SMB capable is good, as it supported by many devices nowadays. But if you going to put HTPC in the living room, it's best to have standalone media player that able to access NAS through network, less clutter since your media player may use WiFi to stream movie over the air, or the HomePlug equivalent. |
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Aug 30 2014, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(h11g @ Aug 30 2014, 01:07 AM) if we go the media player and separate nas route, what media player would you recommend? If you know there's Android TV in the market right now, has WiFi capability, easy enough to play Full HD movie, and small enough to hide behind your TVs, cupboard, etc. (slightly bigger than wireless router) |
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Aug 30 2014, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(h11g @ Aug 30 2014, 10:06 AM) but nowadays we can hook up NAS easily to TV right? That's if your TV supports it, not all TV has such features, and those TV is expensive? (cheapskate thought) Android TV can be had for less than RM300 excluding the month subscription (require Internet service to watch movies online) |
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Sep 17 2014, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 12 2014, 02:12 PM) anyone has a psu for hp microserver n36L? Mine was just fried by lighting. Got my brother to buy me a pico-psu from US but won't boot up.. maybe cos i was running 1 molex to 4... cannot find connector for the 2nd 5v line.. If you can and don't mind about wiring DIY then you can actually do a bit soldering or just wire sandwich (using tapes) to modify previous PSU's wires to your new Pico-UPS, if your new Pico-UPS does fits into the chassis. |
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Sep 22 2014, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(mastermindsos @ Sep 21 2014, 09:13 PM) Hi guys, not sure if this the right thread to ask. You use VM for Synology OS?I have created 2 volumes in synology, but why the volumes capacity cannot utilize the full disk size? I have allocated this much hard disk space from the virtual machine, 5GB and 8GB. But the volume capacity I got from this is less, 490MB and 3.44GB. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thank you. Please tell us more of what you mean by "allocated this much hard disk space from the virtual machine". This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Sep 22 2014, 07:23 AM |
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Sep 27 2014, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 27 2014, 07:29 PM) How to setup a NAS with mixture of diff OS user? Just setup as SMB share and every single OS in the world can access.Almost every OS (iOS and Android included) can access SMB with a little help from apps, so no worries about the way it's shared. |
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Sep 29 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 29 2014, 10:42 AM) Which File system to invest in? File system? Investment? I am thinking of building a 3 bay NAS (if there's such system). Cost is a problem to me now. Thinking to start with 2 HDD running raid-1 ( currently I have only roughly 600GB of data that need to be backup). I am worry about speed of NAS as I would be putting my photos on it, during editing I think it would be rather slow since theoretically gigabit connection would be quite limiting compare to a local drive? If you're going for pre-built NAS such as Synology then by all means don't worry about those File system, just choose the mode for your hard disk and you're good to go, once you turn on for first setup, it will prompt you for all the types of redundancy (RAID), just choose one base on your requirement and you're good to go, basically the NAS will prepare everything for you, you won't need to know what they do. But if you insist, Synology has its own redundancy setup, different from the normal RAID you finds on servers' RAID card. As for File system, Synology firmware is based on Linux so Ext3? or Ext4 or something similar, and it only works with that Linux File system for your info, pre-formatted with Windows File system such as NTFS, FAT32, etc. won't be able to works with Synology NAS. This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Sep 29 2014, 11:26 AM |
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Sep 29 2014, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Sep 29 2014, 02:21 PM) Latest Synology Firmware are using Ext4 and you can use Windows File System for the external drive like docking for the USB. Oh, perhaps I wasn't detail enough, basically you can do it using USB, read only I think, saw some discussion about this last time, and you can't plug-in a NTFS drive into the NAS just like that, won't work on the fly. |
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Sep 30 2014, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(nitehawk @ Sep 30 2014, 07:46 AM) Most (99%) of my users are using Apple product (Mac laptop, iOS devices and AppleTV), what alternatives 2-bay model us best suite. Their usage included: Any model with 2-bay will suit your needs, and like I've said, just setup normally, it should be SMB for most compatibility.1) watching movies via TV, laptop or iPad 2) listening to stored music 3) listening to Internet radio 4) BT download Thanks! It can even has BT download capability by itself so you won't need another PC or Mac as BT client. I'm not sure about Internet radio though, I think it's irrelevant in this case. So why Synology NAS is expensive, it's cause the software is darn good. Though I must say I can do it my way so I'm incline towards DIY build. Much more control... in a way or two. |
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Oct 1 2014, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Sep 30 2014, 12:17 PM) yes there is unit that have eSata interface (DS713+), but not sure if it works like directly plug-in to the PC. I think that e-SATA is for connecting to DX513/510 for extended storage. there is alot of usage with the USB port, look into the compatibility page - https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility |
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