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kyrmian
post Sep 2 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM)
Same OEM does not mean same quality.
The selling price, is.

Just compare PCB material used for RW vs FILCO.
It says a lot.
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Yes, question is, costar or not? That answers the question, not answering which has better quality? That's like comparing a leopold with a filco.
BlizzardCraft
post Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(soR @ Sep 2 2013, 08:56 PM)
should i change to all black keycaps haha
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change half half XD make pattern !
btw ur keycaps all PBT?

QUOTE(Human10 @ Sep 2 2013, 09:14 PM)
I mean, since you are not using the board locally, then warranty got no meaning, you might as well opt for those chinaboards.
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oh... 1 year there left.. then back malaysia.. got come back msia for holidays in between smile.gif so okay lah.. biggrin.gif

china one not enough time to reach here le ><
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(kyrmian @ Aug 21 2013, 09:56 PM)
be careful, if i remember right, i read in gh that someone's retro dsa had problem in this batch, and it kinda pulled out the whole stem. i tried to search for it but couldnt find anything. just be careful
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I tried removing the caps using temp diy key puller, fuyoo I lost count how many time I cursed throughout the process. Finally give up after removing half of the keys, some key just won't budge. Not going to force it until I get a real key puller. laugh.gif


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post Sep 2 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
I tried removing the caps using temp diy key puller, fuyoo I lost count how many time I cursed throughout the process. Finally give up after removing half of the keys, some key just won't budge. Not going to force it until I get a real key puller.  laugh.gif
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how DIY? sifu can teach? biggrin.gif that LED u mod urself?

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post Sep 2 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 2 2013, 10:09 PM)
how DIY? sifu can teach? biggrin.gif that LED u mod urself?
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sweat.gif I bought assembled one
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:08 PM)
I tried removing the caps using temp diy key puller, fuyoo I lost count how many time I cursed throughout the process. Finally give up after removing half of the keys, some key just won't budge. Not going to force it until I get a real key puller.  laugh.gif
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dont force it, you might pull the whole thing out. just do it slowly.
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
I tried removing the caps using temp diy key puller, fuyoo I lost count how many time I cursed throughout the process. Finally give up after removing half of the keys, some key just won't budge. Not going to force it until I get a real key puller.  laugh.gif
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wow..poker2? is that alu case?
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
I tried removing the caps using temp diy key puller, fuyoo I lost count how many time I cursed throughout the process. Finally give up after removing half of the keys, some key just won't budge. Not going to force it until I get a real key puller.  laugh.gif
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the 38gt comes with red plate ?

to order 60% universal kbd plate from gon takes 3-4 weeks to get anodizing done cry.gif
BlizzardCraft
post Sep 2 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 10:09 PM)
sweat.gif I bought assembled one
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how much u buy @_@


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post Sep 2 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(kyrmian @ Sep 2 2013, 10:09 PM)
dont force it, you might pull the whole thing out. just do it slowly.
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Gave up, put back all caps already tongue.gif
Sifu, sell me your Blank Candy Corn MX and Mintgum WASD set


QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Sep 2 2013, 10:10 PM)
wow..poker2? is that alu case?
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:10 PM)
the 38gt comes with red plate ?

to order 60% universal kbd plate from gon takes 3-4 weeks to get anodizing done  cry.gif
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 2 2013, 10:11 PM)
how much u buy @_@
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you shat pants knowing the price of that custom keyboard
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 10:15 PM)
Gave up, put back all caps already  tongue.gif
Sifu, sell me your Blank Candy Corn MX and Mintgum WASD set
KMAC Happy
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keep forgot.
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 2 2013, 10:08 PM)
change half half XD make pattern !
btw ur keycaps all PBT?
oh... 1 year there left.. then back malaysia.. got come back msia for holidays in between smile.gif so okay lah.. biggrin.gif

china one not enough time to reach here le ><
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yup all pbt including the colored one
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(kyrmian @ Sep 2 2013, 10:03 PM)
Yes, question is, costar or not? That answers the question, not answering which has better quality? That's like comparing a leopold with a filco.
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The misconception I used to have is, if it comes from same OEM it must have the same build quality.
Then i realized, nope, that's the wrong concept. It does not apply for all.

A story my friend used to share.
Acson and York Aircon comes from the same factory. Don't believe me? Go check out the design of a common York unit vs an Acson unit.

So he told me, when he worked there, they just stick the brand badge based on orders, same QC and all.
In this case, Acson and York has the same quality, just different badge. Do take this with a grain of salt, as all this is based on hearsay.

In the case of Costar branded keyboards, the devil is in the PCB material
QFR, RW etc uses 1 layer PCB. Not sure of the material type but definitely not FR4 if FILCO had to take an effort to promote that. Comparing FILCO with RW or QFR, the solder mask feels more robust, and that it is of FR4 with 2 layer routing. In this case, production cost would be higher. No company would increase production cost if it does not come with better build quality. And based on my first hand experience, FILCO PCB is better built.
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 10:21 PM)
The misconception I used to have is, if it comes from same OEM it must have the same build quality.
Then i realized, nope, that's the wrong concept. It does not apply for all.

A story my friend used to share.
Acson and York Aircon comes from the same factory. Don't believe me? Go check out the design of a common York unit vs an Acson unit.

So he told me, when he worked there, they just stick the brand badge based on orders, same QC and all.
In this case, Acson and York has the same quality, just different badge. Do take this with a grain of salt, as all this is based on hearsay.

In the case of Costar branded keyboards, the devil is in the PCB material
QFR, RW etc uses 1 layer PCB. Not sure of the material type but definitely not FR4 if FILCO had to take an effort to promote that. Comparing FILCO with RW or QFR, the solder mask feels more robust, and that it is of FR4 with 2 layer routing. In this case, production cost would be higher. No company would increase production cost if it does not come with better build quality. And based on my first hand experience, FILCO PCB is better built.
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I agree with you, I was thinking the same as you until this few months, I talked with a few guys and got an insight on the production and marketing on the OEM side.
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 10:21 PM)
The misconception I used to have is, if it comes from same OEM it must have the same build quality.
Then i realized, nope, that's the wrong concept. It does not apply for all.

A story my friend used to share.
Acson and York Aircon comes from the same factory. Don't believe me? Go check out the design of a common York unit vs an Acson unit.

So he told me, when he worked there, they just stick the brand badge based on orders, same QC and all.
In this case, Acson and York has the same quality, just different badge. Do take this with a grain of salt, as all this is based on hearsay.

In the case of Costar branded keyboards, the devil is in the PCB material
QFR, RW etc uses 1 layer PCB. Not sure of the material type but definitely not FR4 if FILCO had to take an effort to promote that. Comparing FILCO with RW or QFR, the solder mask feels more robust, and that it is of FR4 with 2 layer routing. In this case, production cost would be higher. No company would increase production cost if it does not come with better build quality. And based on my first hand experience, FILCO PCB is better built.
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Wait until i opened up rk9000 pcb compare to filco,
Indeed filco pcb better
kyrmian
post Sep 2 2013, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:15 PM)
Gave up, put back all caps already  tongue.gif
Sifu, sell me your Blank Candy Corn MX and Mintgum WASD set
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Not cheap wor friend, you ready ah? : p
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(kyrmian @ Sep 2 2013, 10:53 PM)
Not cheap wor friend, you ready ah? : p
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Ready liao, tomorrow I go bank in brows.gif
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:16 PM)
you shat pants knowing the price of that custom keyboard
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come gime shat xD rm500?
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QUOTE(soR @ Sep 2 2013, 10:17 PM)
yup all pbt including the colored one
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:45 PM)
Wait until i opened up rk9000 pcb compare to filco,
Indeed filco pcb better
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PCB is? o_O newbie here
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