eh kmac happy how much leh?
Mechanical Keyboard Thread Reload V14
Mechanical Keyboard Thread Reload V14
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Sep 2 2013, 11:05 PM
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eh kmac happy how much leh?
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Sep 2 2013, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 11:21 PM) The misconception I used to have is, if it comes from same OEM it must have the same build quality. In the end, the question comes down to = Costar or not? Easy answer = Yes, Costar.Then i realized, nope, that's the wrong concept. It does not apply for all. A story my friend used to share. Acson and York Aircon comes from the same factory. Don't believe me? Go check out the design of a common York unit vs an Acson unit. So he told me, when he worked there, they just stick the brand badge based on orders, same QC and all. In this case, Acson and York has the same quality, just different badge. Do take this with a grain of salt, as all this is based on hearsay. In the case of Costar branded keyboards, the devil is in the PCB material QFR, RW etc uses 1 layer PCB. Not sure of the material type but definitely not FR4 if FILCO had to take an effort to promote that. Comparing FILCO with RW or QFR, the solder mask feels more robust, and that it is of FR4 with 2 layer routing. In this case, production cost would be higher. No company would increase production cost if it does not come with better build quality. And based on my first hand experience, FILCO PCB is better built. I know that the differences lies in the build quality, despite having the same OEM. last time you say liao. QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:54 PM) QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 2 2013, 11:55 PM) https://www.google.com.au/search?q=printed+...hAZDPlAX2kIHQCAThe thing inside your keyboard. This post has been edited by kyrmian: Sep 2 2013, 11:11 PM |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM) QUOTE(shuthefakap @ Sep 2 2013, 11:05 PM) $590 including DSA Retro set, Paypal fees and shipping from Korea.http://listokei.gomdesign.com/Description_...late_happy.html |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:12 PM
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1,979 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Coconut Tree. That's what my mum said |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 3 2013, 12:11 AM) $590 including DSA Retro set, Paypal fees and shipping from Korea. The 456gt he is selling now, is very very sexy.http://listokei.gomdesign.com/Description_...late_happy.html |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:11 PM) $590 including DSA Retro set, Paypal fees and shipping from Korea. whoa! poison. but the price make me think twice -.-http://listokei.gomdesign.com/Description_...late_happy.html |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:15 PM
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Sep 2 2013, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:11 PM) $590 including DSA Retro set, Paypal fees and shipping from Korea. I sell $550 dunno got who will want http://listokei.gomdesign.com/Description_...late_happy.html Petrol naik, ubah gaya hidup, jual keyboard |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 10:21 PM) The misconception I used to have is, if it comes from same OEM it must have the same build quality. 1st gen filco also 1layer pcbThen i realized, nope, that's the wrong concept. It does not apply for all. A story my friend used to share. Acson and York Aircon comes from the same factory. Don't believe me? Go check out the design of a common York unit vs an Acson unit. So he told me, when he worked there, they just stick the brand badge based on orders, same QC and all. In this case, Acson and York has the same quality, just different badge. Do take this with a grain of salt, as all this is based on hearsay. In the case of Costar branded keyboards, the devil is in the PCB material QFR, RW etc uses 1 layer PCB. Not sure of the material type but definitely not FR4 if FILCO had to take an effort to promote that. Comparing FILCO with RW or QFR, the solder mask feels more robust, and that it is of FR4 with 2 layer routing. In this case, production cost would be higher. No company would increase production cost if it does not come with better build quality. And based on my first hand experience, FILCO PCB is better built. And some ppl even prefer the 1st gene of it for crispier blue switch, but some ppl claim that it may be affected by batches issue of cherry blue instead. |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Sep 2 2013, 11:11 PM) $590 including DSA Retro set, Paypal fees and shipping from Korea. deep pocket you havehttp://listokei.gomdesign.com/Description_...late_happy.html |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:20 PM
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Sep 2 2013, 11:20 PM
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Sep 2 2013, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(kyrmian @ Sep 2 2013, 11:05 PM) In the end, the question comes down to = Costar or not? Easy answer = Yes, Costar. But costar made board indeed having great built quality and typing feel.I know that the differences lies in the build quality, despite having the same OEM. last time you say liao. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=printed+...hAZDPlAX2kIHQCA The thing inside your keyboard. Regarding the rosewill case, I think it is more of a qc problem or may be even design failure. This post has been edited by Human10: Sep 2 2013, 11:26 PM |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:29 PM
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Sep 2 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:24 PM) But costar made board indeed having great built quality and typing feel. You need to open it up and try to do soldering on it.Regarding the rosewill case, I think it is more of a qc problem or may be even design failure. Then you will know what I was ranting about. It is not design failure, it is just a cost cutting measure. |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:33 PM
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62g spring for brown stem is gooding or no?
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Sep 2 2013, 11:43 PM
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Sep 2 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 2 2013, 11:32 PM) You need to open it up and try to do soldering on it. I personally experienced copper plate drop off from dummy switch harvesting pcb b4, other than that not yet.Then you will know what I was ranting about. It is not design failure, it is just a cost cutting measure. I thought it is problem with aging or overheat solder iron. Really wondering how can a dual layer pcb differ with 1 layer pcb on the strength/durability if copper plate. |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:48 PM) I personally experienced copper plate drop off from dummy switch harvesting pcb b4, other than that not yet. Dual layer and single layer should be no difference for durability.I thought it is problem with aging or overheat solder iron. Really wondering how can a dual layer pcb differ with 1 layer pcb on the strength/durability if copper plate. Just more for signal integrity, plus easier routing. The strength comes from the FR4 material. |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:50 PM
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