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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:00 PM)
hah cannot accept the truth that cina bukit established old japan ?

Wan me to tell stories that korean anyeong haseyo and surname kim also hokkien too ? lol
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No need.. Most of the surname in Korean are Chinese & based on Confucian roots. biggrin.gif Even Angyeong is shared wth hakka greeting!

How about Chinchiak or really in Koprwean> Bongchun as in Hainanese bonkang or similar sounding canto?

Even Tan also having surname in Korean in the form of "Jin"but rare biggrin.gif Kim is Gold or in Hanja written as 金 Similar pronounciation as Hokkien or in Canto "Kum" / Mandarin Ching biggrin.gif

BTW, If you dunno, Korean also using Chinese Characters and having more than 50% shared chinese words which is even more than Japanese.. Only that in 15th Century, King Sojeong, implement korean alphaphet replacing Hanja (Chinese Character smile.gif
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Himiko Yamataikoku (Queen Of Yamataikoku) 230AD


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Kofun (Yamato) Period (250AD-538AD)


Empress Jingu Kogo Led A Japanese Invasion Of Korea 366AD


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QUOTE(rivost @ Aug 18 2013, 06:13 PM)
The Chinese race is actually a political creation of the Han dynasty, in which they are still known as Han Chinese today.

Before Han there was the tyrannic Qin dynasty, China's first imperial dynasty. There were 2 groups that escaped Qin, one to Japan and another down south to unknown whereabout (presumably Vietnam)

Based on the Han racial unification, Japanese are actually quite 'far', the closest cousins for the Chinese people are the North Vietnamese and North Koreans.

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Yape.. And see how TS membebel about 1st King of Japan.. sos pun salah biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Wanie404 @ Aug 18 2013, 05:03 PM)
another bs chinese supremacy by tankerbell
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1599405/all

An old K forummer even concurred that there was also a documentary in History Channel which said that the first explorer who later become the first emperor was from a hokkien community. Because it is a paid channel , i didnt go to search for it.

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post Aug 18 2013, 06:20 PM

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actually japs/korean/chinese all use some hanji in somepoint
way of counting things in these 3 not so different voice
but i thinking korea/japan language more closed to hakka+hokkien

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post Aug 18 2013, 06:21 PM

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Japanese: Sekai
Hokkien: Sekai

That's the only world I know that is pronounced similarly to hokkien.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 18 2013, 06:15 PM)
No need.. Most of the surname in Korean are Chinese & based on Confucian roots.  biggrin.gif  Even Angyeong is shared wth hakka greeting!

How about Chinchiak or really in Koprwean> Bongchun as in Hainanese bonkang or similar sounding canto?

Even Tan also having surname in Korean in the form of "Jin"but rare  biggrin.gif  Kim is Gold or in Hanja written as 金 Similar pronounciation as Hokkien or in Canto "Kum" / Mandarin Ching biggrin.gif

BTW, If you dunno, Korean also using Chinese Characters and having more than 50% shared chinese words which is even more than Japanese.. Only that in 15th Century, King Sojeong, implement korean alphaphet replacing Hanja (Chinese Character  smile.gif
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They are still using chinese words to this day.Just lesser
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post Aug 18 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Aug 18 2013, 06:06 PM)
the song really got abit similar, not abit 70%, especially the starting background music
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Old chinese folk song tend to be very low, slow and strong tone but today mandarin is of very high pitch until ang mo also called ching chong for lack of ability to pronounce the current chinese language.
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QUOTE(rivost @ Aug 18 2013, 06:13 PM)
The Chinese race is actually a political creation of the Han dynasty, in which they are still known as Han Chinese today.

Before Han there was the tyrannic Qin dynasty, China's first imperial dynasty. There were 2 groups that escaped Qin, one to Japan and another down south to unknown whereabout (presumably Vietnam)

Based on the Han racial unification, Japanese are actually quite 'far', the closest cousins for the Chinese people are the North Vietnamese and North Koreans.

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Why North Koreans lol..Not both sides punya koreans?They are still koreans right?
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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:18 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1599405/all

An old K forummer even concurred that there was also a documentary in History Channel which said that the first explorer who later become the first emperor was from a hokkien community. Because it is a paid channel , i didnt went to search for it.
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Korean punya Claims......



China 中共 and Southern Asia were colony of Baekje, Korea 중공은 한민족 식민지



'Heukchi' means the land where people with Black Teeth live. ...The land to where the ancestors of Heukchi was sent as the governor of the land was hot humid southern land, somewhere in southern Asia




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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Aug 18 2013, 05:02 PM)
so everyone in nippon is cainis?
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old version chinese.
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kesian vietnamese kena sidelined and ignored despite practicing confucian values and used chinese characters called chu nom before being phased out in favour of roman characters.

inb4, vietnamese are cantonese and champa mix.

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:18 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1599405/all

An old K forummer even concurred that there was also a documentary in History Channel which said that the first explorer who later become the first emperor was from a hokkien community. Because it is a paid channel , i didnt went to search for it.
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an old K forummer lol, he's your dupe lol?
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QUOTE(abccab123 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:21 PM)
They are still using chinese words to this day.Just lesser
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yes i know. most of the name of places and even every of their mrt stations in seoul is still using hanja. the similarity of korean are even more than what japanese to chinese
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That said, it is really doubtful whether the first emperor of Japan was a Chinese.

If TS said the first king of the first united Vietnamese kingdom was a Chinese, that will be true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_D%C6%B0%C6...V%C6%B0%C6%A1ng

See, as mentioned, Chinese are closer to the North Vietnamese and North Koreans than Japanese.
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The monk who came to Johor 1,100 years ago


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2009/01/12

WHEN ninth-century Japanese monk Shinnyo (Imperial Prince Takaoka (799-881) left China on Jan 27, 865, to study Buddhism in India, it did not cross his mind that his final resting place would be a province on the southern tip of the Malay peninsula.


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PRINCELY PRESENCE: A monk conducts a prayer session at the grave of Shinnyo at the Japanese Cemetery in Johor Baru. — Picture provided by the Japan Club of Johor



Although the exact location of his remains is unknown, there is a memorial headstone and shrine in honour of Shinnyo at the Japanese Cemetery in Johor Baru.

Born in 799, Prince Takaoka, as he was known at birth, was the third son of Emperor Heizei.

Although he later rose to become crown prince, Takaoka lost the designation. He then retired to become a monk in 822, taking the name Shinnyo.

Records state that while studying Buddhism in China, he decided to go to India to study the religion further and set out in 865 from Kwang Chu (probably modern-day Guangzhou).

Shinnyo, however, never reached his destination and at age 67, died in 866 in what is now Johor.

And for that reason alone, the headstone at the cemetery in Jalan Kebun Teh could be the oldest record of Japanese presence in Malaysia.

Japan Club of Johor secretary-general Nishikawa Takeshi said it was a mystery how Shinnyo ended up in Johor.

“It’s possible that he may have lost his way. Or perhaps he really did intend to stop here.

“All we know is that he never fulfilled his dream of going to India.


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HONOURING THE DEAD: A boy and his father pray and place flowers at a grave at the Japanese cemetery.


“Because of the hardship he went through, in 1970, the head monk in Shinnyo’s order honoured him with this plaque.”

According to the club’s records, the cemetery was discovered in 1962 when development work was carried out in the area.

When the land was cleared further, 80 gravestones with Japanese writing were found, most of them broken.

Takeshi also points to an order dated April 13, 1924, by the Japanese government for the local Japanese community to manage and maintain the site.

“We believe that the cemetery was started by the community because they needed a place for their deceased.

“This means that Japanese were already staying here at the time.”

Research is consistent with this notion because there are records of Japanese businesses in Johor involved in the mining, commerce and plantation industries in the 1920s.

In fact, Johor had enjoyed good relations with Japan in the 19th century when Sultan Abu Bakar visited the country in the early 1880s.

Ties, it is reported, were strengthened when his son, Sultan Ibrahim, was bestowed an award by Emperor Hirohito.

Takeshi said since 1992, the Japan Club of Johor had been receiving monetary support from the Japanese embassy in Kuala Lumpur to manage and maintain the cemetery, which is cleaned every month.

“We also hold prayer sessions to honour the deceased twice a year, usually in March and September. We invited a praymaster from Japan to do this.”


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