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post Aug 19 2013, 11:24 PM

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Bob Sapp is ancestor of Hokkien.
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:28 PM

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no sh1t they dont appear magically, they came from the mainland thousands of years ago
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post Aug 20 2013, 12:20 AM

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This guy walk over to asia + 1000 generations later = Hokkien

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post Aug 20 2013, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 19 2013, 09:20 PM)
Xu Fu's tomb can still be found in Wakayama (Japan), with the inscription of "Tomb of Xu Fu of the Qin Dynasty (221-206BC)."

The period 660BC is hearsay or oral tradition passed down from people.

Hope it clears out the confusion for once and all.
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scientifically not matching in timing! oriental historians also disagreed xu fu = sheng wu tian huang



more important is the truth of the history japanese preferred.
we treat their ww2 military leaders as criminals but they treat them as heros and legendary, set in a prestigious temple with grace tombs! that's what we cannot understand and accept neither! so how they praise xu fu and respect him is also their individual preference.

a govt can rewrite and change history books will give many ???? to the history and readers!!!


language evolution involved not just in writing, interpretation, and also have "pronunciation"! pronunciation is most likely to be affected. a good example is the singlish, mixed with different dialects, met a guy who can compose a sentence in hokkien, teochew, cantonese, english, malayu pronunciation, which they feel "ziouk" about it. then should claim he is hokkien ?

no linguistics can prove what is the pronunciation of a languages and dialect how it speaks in the past. some said tang dynasty speak the languages like cantonese, some said like hokkien, but no one can record it at that era!
that leaves many literature fans have more different saying on support of their speaking languages and dialects.

the interaction of the cultures, economy, literature, dressing, eating, living among different travelers or migrants will contribute the speaking languages evolution.

current japanese also getting more english like pronunciation words, so after an century some will also say their ancestor speaks english and may have foreign breed..

if we judge a language content after its long existence time, it is not easy to single out the dominance so easy due to the cultural interaction.

it is just a result of certain era and a part of the evolution of the language.



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post Aug 20 2013, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(ectt @ Aug 20 2013, 12:22 AM)
scientifically not matching in timing! oriental historians also disagreed xu fu = sheng wu tian huang
more important is the truth of the history japanese preferred.

His name jinmu tenno explained his origin clearly.


we treat their ww2 military leaders as criminals but they treat them as heros and legendary, set in a prestigious temple with grace tombs! that's what we cannot understand and accept neither! so how they praise xu fu and respect him is also their individual preference.

a govt can rewrite and change history books will give many ???? to the history and readers!!!

China for han and cina not manchurians

Japanese came back to retake china to revert china to its original state which is to liberate china from Manchurian influence. That is why they treated them as heroes.

Although they did it inhumanely, it was their only choice they had. The Manchurian were literally killing every hans/ cina and its influence from the face of china



language evolution involved not just in writing, interpretation, and also have "pronunciation"! pronunciation is most likely to be affected.  a good example is the singlish, mixed with different dialects, met a guy who can compose a sentence in hokkien, teochew, cantonese, english, malayu pronunciation, which they feel "ziouk" about it. then should claim he is hokkien ?

no linguistics can prove what is the pronunciation of a languages and dialect how it speaks in the past. some said tang dynasty speak the languages like cantonese, some said like hokkien, but no one can record it at that era!
that leaves many literature fans have more different saying on support of their speaking languages and dialects.

the interaction of the cultures, economy, literature, dressing, eating, living among different travelers or migrants will contribute the speaking languages evolution.

current japanese also getting more english like pronunciation words, so after an century some will also say their ancestor speaks english and may have foreign breed..

if we judge a language content after its long existence time, it is not easy to single out the dominance so easy due to the cultural interaction.

it is just a result of certain era and a part of the evolution of the language

The capital of Tang dynasty was in chang an . All dynasties that were situated in chang an were formed after after qin dynasty culturally and linguitically



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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:43 PM)
倭 Wō / Wa = Japanese or '' dwarfs ''
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It actually means submissive , obedient and docile people. To the indigenous tribes and people who didnt understand the culture, bending down either by squat or kneel with both hands on grounds which is typical trait of han culture to showing respect has cognated to low or short stature or status. So, slowly it is being misunderstood to mean dwarfs. Ancestors of yamato / wo which made up of majority of population were from han dynasty.

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TS, kolos this tered la. we hokkien speakers know we have so so so much similarity with japanese. esp the language.

but u must know, the current japs are no longer the old japs. the old japs were much related to hokkien while current 1... most has mixed dna of jewish-jap(hokkien), europe-jap(hokkien), and their orang-asli-jap. these new breed are the japs that we know now.

other clan(canton,hakka,hainan) and races sure will think u tok BS ok.
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Face it,
almost all chinese, japan, Korean all decedent of genghis khan
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Japanese are obviously hardcore Han/Chinese supporter. That's why Nanking Massacre happens. They simply loves Han too much to let them suffer in this world.
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rambut belah tengah la sial..
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Aug 18 2013, 05:03 PM)
stopped reading at Aryan demigods.

go read about genetics la. den u will see the difference.
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Nice one bro ! lolol
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QUOTE(Wanie404 @ Aug 18 2013, 05:03 PM)
another bs chinese supremacy by tankerbell
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that article is just a theory only.

however origin of japanese do comes from china, else why you think japanese and chinese look alike that much?

actually all japanese tradition and festivals are come from china, you can investigate ancient chinese apparels and festivals and compare with japanese one.

but chinese never say they are more supreme because japanese ancestor comes from china. history is history. they are now 2 different nations already.
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Han Korea & Han China....


Konfius.... dulu...
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 20 2013, 12:14 PM)
that article is just a theory only.

however origin of japanese do comes from china, else why you think japanese and chinese look alike that much?

actually all japanese tradition and festivals are come from china, you can investigate ancient chinese apparels and festivals and compare with japanese one.

but chinese never say they are more supreme because japanese ancestor comes from china. history is history. they are now 2 different nations already.
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Japs r a mix of mainland northern chinese, koreans n Ainu ppl. if u notice, among all the East Asian ppl, japanese have the most unique look n r the hairiest. Ainu ppl r the hairiest in the world.

there has been a lot of research done about the genetic origins of Japanese ppl.

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A 2008 study about genome-wide SNPs of East Asians by Chao Tian et al. reported that Japanese, Koreans and Han Chinese are far from southeast Asians, and Japanese is related to Koreans who are related to Han Chinese, but Japanese is relatively far from Han Chinese if compared to Koreans

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QUOTE(Draconian Paladin @ Aug 20 2013, 11:50 AM)
Japanese are obviously hardcore Han/Chinese supporter. That's why Nanking Massacre happens. They simply loves Han too much to let them suffer in this world.
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By 1650, Koxinga was strong enough to establish himself as the head of the Zheng family.[17] He pledged allegiance to the only remaining claimant to the throne of the Ming Dynasty, the Yongli Emperor. The Yongli Emperor was fleeing from the Manchus in south-western China with a motley court and hastily assembled army at the time. Despite one fruitless attempt, Koxinga was unable to do anything to aid the last Ming emperor.[17] Instead, he decided to concentrate on securing his own position on the southeast coast.

The long series of negotiations between Koxinga and the Qing Dynasty lasted until November 1654. The Qing government appointed Prince Jidu (son of Jirgalang) to lead an attack on Koxinga's territory after the failed negotiations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koxinga

That means the japanese history of china is right. Japanese pirates were attacking china to revert china to the right path whereas communist china derailed history by stating that japanese pirates during ming period wanted china for their own.
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post Aug 20 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:21 PM)
Japs r a mix of mainland northern chinese, koreans n Ainu ppl. if u notice, among all the East Asian ppl, japanese have the most unique look n r the hairiest. Ainu ppl r the hairiest in the world.

there has been a lot of research done about the genetic origins of Japanese ppl.
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modern chinese in mainland china - mostly northern chinese who replaced the ancient chinese and hairless like korean kpop

ancient chinese - hairy eyebrow and beard as depicted in movies

Ur source compared modern japanese with modern chinese which are mostly heavily assimilated northern chinese (not the real ancient cina) shakehead.gif .

So of course they are not the same .

Remember japan was related to old china, not modern china.

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Aug 19 2013, 11:19 PM)
Hokkien Banzai! laugh.gif
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Sedap lagu nih...



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post Aug 20 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:22 PM)
By 1650, Koxinga was strong enough to establish himself as the head of the Zheng family.[17] He pledged allegiance to the only remaining claimant to the throne of the Ming Dynasty, the Yongli Emperor. The Yongli Emperor was fleeing from the Manchus in south-western China with a motley court and hastily assembled army at the time. Despite one fruitless attempt, Koxinga was unable to do anything to aid the last Ming emperor.[17] Instead, he decided to concentrate on securing his own position on the southeast coast.

The long series of negotiations between Koxinga and the Qing Dynasty lasted until November 1654. The Qing government appointed Prince Jidu (son of Jirgalang) to lead an attack on Koxinga's territory after the failed negotiations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koxinga

That means the japanese history of china is right. Japanese pirates were attacking china to revert china to the right path whereas communist china derailed history by stating that japanese pirates during ming period wanted china for their own.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. Japanese are trying to revert China back to the right path...by killing off as many Chinese as they can. It's tough love.

As they believe in reincarnation, they are helping as many Chinese to reincarnate as possible, in as little time as possible. All these are for the good of the Han Chinese.
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QUOTE(Draconian Paladin @ Aug 20 2013, 02:02 PM)
Yes, I totally agree with you. Japanese are trying to revert China back to the right path...by killing off as many Chinese as they can. It's tough love.

As they believe in reincarnation, they are helping as many Chinese to reincarnate as possible, in as little time as possible. All these are for the good of the Han Chinese.
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Well they were indirectly responsible for the death of hundred of millions of cina/han during Manchurian, pre communist and cultural revolution and they betrayed their code of conduct by siding with manchurians.

There is even a movie about it 東方不敗

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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 20 2013, 02:24 PM)
Well they were indirectly responsible for the death of hundred of millions of cina/han during Manchurian, pre communist and cultural revolution and they betrayed their code of conduct by siding with manchurians.
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Absolutely correct, some of those children killed are reincarnation of those worthy of death such as those who sides with Manchurians, criminals and demon. Just because they reincarnated once doesn't means we can't catch them, damn it. We will still hunt and kill all their reincarnation.

Some of those women are either pregnant with those demon reincarnation of betrayer or could potentially be pregnant with one, so they need to be killed as well. Show them no mercy and slaughter all the betrayers! In fact, the very air breathed by the betrayer had taint the city. So, Japanese had done a great service to the Han Chinese by slaughtering all the Han Chinese that was in their way. Purification by fire is the only way to go!

The great Japanese had also done another great service to the Han Chinese, as well as Korean (who undoubtedly are Hokkiens as well). This service is so great that all people in the world shall shed a tear collectively and bow down to the great Japan. The entire human race combined couldn't had done anywhere close to this humble and noble deed. Remember I mentioned about women either pregnant with demon child or could potentially pregnant with one in last paragraph? Well, great Japanese had found a solution to the second part! By raping as many women as possible, they are depositing their glorious and noble Japanese sperm into those women, thus defeating the demon spawn from being born! Only by raping all those filthy women can they prevents those betrayer of Han Chinese from being born!

Hence, Japanese are the true saviour of Han Chinese. Only by killing, torturing and raping Han Chinese can they save the Han Chinese. The actual Han Chinese are all betrayer of Han Chinese and should just die.

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