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Marine Boy
post Dec 9 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(a123 @ Nov 28 2015, 06:57 AM)
[attachmentid=5389987][attachmentid=5389988]
Chronology of  events leading to the tearing down of SW Big Rock sculpture. It lists out the  SW JMB  management process as had occured, for transparency in this matter. No opinion, implied or otherwise, is offered.

a. August 3rd, 2015 JMC meeting.
According to August 3rd 2015 official minutes of meeting,

Quote:
"YTS presented the opinion on why the sculpture were to be removed"

" In conclusion, the Stone Sculpture will be removed based on the majority votes."

"YTS=Yin Ting Shin."
Unquote.

According to data published by management, YTS is the owner of unit B-03-1.
The minutes did not mention the existence of any proposer or seconder for the vote.

b. September 7th, 2015 JMC meeting.
Options and costs for removing the rock sculpture were first discussed. PMC to pick the contractor.

Next a letter from COB was presented. It essentially stated the following.

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pihak kami berpandangan bahawa cadangan untuk merobohkan binaan tersebut perlu dirujuk terlebih dahulu dengan Jabatan Bangunan MPSJ dan kemudiannya dipertimbangkan di dalam mesyuarat agung tahunan atau mesyuarat agung luarbiasa untuk dapatkan kata putus majoriti pembeli.
Unquote
PMC to write to COB for clarification.

c. September 17th 2015.
PMC wrote to COB regarding JMC decision and sculpture not in building plans.

d. September 25, 2015.
Draft minutes of JMC September 2015 meeting were issued by PMC via email to JMC members.

e. October 2nd, 2015.
The following email reply was sent out by Richard at 11:09 AM to PMC management and all JMC members regarding draft minutes of September 7th, 2015 meeting.

Quote
The last part of 3.12 which states "PMC will proceed to engage a contractor to remove the stone" is incorrect. What actually transpired is:

In view of a written letter from COB on removal of The Rock sculpture, Martin has suggested that management seek clarification from COB on whether its letter is merely an advice which is up to JMC to accept or an opinion which JMB has to follow given that the sculpture is not in any SW plans available to management.
Unqote.

f. October 5th and 6th 2015.
Actual physical dismantling of The SW Big Rock sculpture.

g. October 12th, 2015 JMC meeting.

TODAY SW JMB management received a written reply from COB essentially saying : -

Quote
Pihak kami ambil maklum mengenai penjelasan tuan berhubung cadangan perobohan binaan 'sculpture' berkenaan.
Unquote

Richard officially disputed the accurateness of Sept 2015 JMC minutes of meeting. He was requested to put in writing the dispute.

PMC informed JMC The SW Rock Sculpture was dismantled already.

h. Oct. 18, 2015
Richard provided a written rebutter regarding the error in Sept. 2015 JMC meeting minutes to all JMC member and management.

h. Nov.16, 2015 JMC meeting.
PMC would not comment on the accurateness of Richard's rebutter by refering to voice recording.

Two JMC members suggested any unhappy party(ies) can sue JMB or bring the issue to the Tribunal. No proposal on this subject matter was  accepted for voting.

Note:
1. Richard informed management and JMC members there was a mistake in draft minutes of  meeting on the morning of October 2nd 2015. This is well before the dismantling of the sculpture on 5th and 6th October 2015.

2. The sculpture was dismantled before PMC received the written reply from COB. The letter did NOT withdraw its earlier view that an AGM or EGM vote is needed to dismantle the Rock sculpture.

3. The sculpture was dismantled before JMC has an opportunity to deliberate on COB's reply and whether to proceed with destruction in view of COB's letters.

4. In view of COB's letter, JMC did not at any time deliberated and voted on whether to proceed with removal of the sculpture.

5. COB official letter were totally omitted from the minutes of September 7, 2015 JMC meeting and draft minutes of October 12, 2015 JMC meeting.
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post Dec 9 2015, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(a123 @ Nov 28 2015, 06:57 AM)
[attachmentid=5389987][attachmentid=5389988]
Chronology of  events leading to the tearing down of SW Big Rock sculpture. It lists out the  SW JMB  management process as had occured, for transparency in this matter. No opinion, implied or otherwise, is offered.

a. August 3rd, 2015 JMC meeting.
According to August 3rd 2015 official minutes of meeting,

Quote:
"YTS presented the opinion on why the sculpture were to be removed"

" In conclusion, the Stone Sculpture will be removed based on the majority votes."

"YTS=Yin Ting Shin."
Unquote.

According to data published by management, YTS is the owner of unit B-03-1.
The minutes did not mention the existence of any proposer or seconder for the vote.

b. September 7th, 2015 JMC meeting.
Options and costs for removing the rock sculpture were first discussed. PMC to pick the contractor.

Next a letter from COB was presented. It essentially stated the following.

Quote
pihak kami berpandangan bahawa cadangan untuk merobohkan binaan tersebut perlu dirujuk terlebih dahulu dengan Jabatan Bangunan MPSJ dan kemudiannya dipertimbangkan di dalam mesyuarat agung tahunan atau mesyuarat agung luarbiasa untuk dapatkan kata putus majoriti pembeli.
Unquote
PMC to write to COB for clarification.

c. September 17th 2015.
PMC wrote to COB regarding JMC decision and sculpture not in building plans.





why do SW needs to remove the huge rock? The rock is so for asthetic display isnt it?

d. September 25, 2015.
Draft minutes of JMC September 2015 meeting were issued by PMC via email to JMC members.

e. October 2nd, 2015.
The following email reply was sent out by Richard at 11:09 AM to PMC management and all JMC members regarding draft minutes of September 7th, 2015 meeting.

Quote
The last part of 3.12 which states "PMC will proceed to engage a contractor to remove the stone" is incorrect. What actually transpired is:

In view of a written letter from COB on removal of The Rock sculpture, Martin has suggested that management seek clarification from COB on whether its letter is merely an advice which is up to JMC to accept or an opinion which JMB has to follow given that the sculpture is not in any SW plans available to management.
Unqote.

f. October 5th and 6th 2015.
Actual physical dismantling of The SW Big Rock sculpture.

g. October 12th, 2015 JMC meeting.

TODAY SW JMB management received a written reply from COB essentially saying : -

Quote
Pihak kami ambil maklum mengenai penjelasan tuan berhubung cadangan perobohan binaan 'sculpture' berkenaan.
Unquote

Richard officially disputed the accurateness of Sept 2015 JMC minutes of meeting. He was requested to put in writing the dispute.

PMC informed JMC The SW Rock Sculpture was dismantled already.

h. Oct. 18, 2015
Richard provided a written rebutter regarding the error in Sept. 2015 JMC meeting minutes to all JMC member and management.

h. Nov.16, 2015 JMC meeting.
PMC would not comment on the accurateness of Richard's rebutter by refering to voice recording.

Two JMC members suggested any unhappy party(ies) can sue JMB or bring the issue to the Tribunal. No proposal on this subject matter was  accepted for voting.

Note:
1. Richard informed management and JMC members there was a mistake in draft minutes of  meeting on the morning of October 2nd 2015. This is well before the dismantling of the sculpture on 5th and 6th October 2015.

2. The sculpture was dismantled before PMC received the written reply from COB. The letter did NOT withdraw its earlier view that an AGM or EGM vote is needed to dismantle the Rock sculpture.

3. The sculpture was dismantled before JMC has an opportunity to deliberate on COB's reply and whether to proceed with destruction in view of COB's letters.

4. In view of COB's letter, JMC did not at any time deliberated and voted on whether to proceed with removal of the sculpture.

5. COB official letter were totally omitted from the minutes of September 7, 2015 JMC meeting and draft minutes of October 12, 2015 JMC meeting.
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post Dec 26 2015, 03:07 PM

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IOI Mall side and Bandar Puteri side have their own new bridge linking to LRT stations but I don't see any at SetiaWalk side apart from the old pedestrian bridge. Don't tell me Prasarana cut cost to use this pedestrian bridge to link it?
Rugi la for SetiaWalk
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post Dec 26 2015, 03:08 PM

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Sad case for the rock...
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post Dec 26 2015, 03:13 PM

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This forum is not that active anymore...how to make it more active?
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Dec 26 2015, 03:07 PM)
IOI Mall side and Bandar Puteri side have their own new bridge linking to LRT stations but I don't see any at SetiaWalk side apart from the old pedestrian bridge. Don't tell me Prasarana cut cost to use this pedestrian bridge to link it?
Rugi la for SetiaWalk
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Yes u r right
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post Dec 26 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Dec 26 2015, 03:07 PM)
IOI Mall side and Bandar Puteri side have their own new bridge linking to LRT stations but I don't see any at SetiaWalk side apart from the old pedestrian bridge. Don't tell me Prasarana cut cost to use this pedestrian bridge to link it?
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Already discussed a few pages back, you should log in more often lol. Bridge being constructed now, you can see piling machines at work.
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i have a fully furnished unit for rent there, any agent pls PM me
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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 26 2015, 07:36 PM)
Yes u r right
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So, I've seen the progress of the link bridge construction. Yes, I think the current Tesco bridge will be maintained, with links connecting into the LRT station (Tesco side) and an elevator on the opposite side (Jalan Bandar 1).
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QUOTE(davkong @ Jan 13 2016, 04:16 PM)
So, I've seen the progress of the link bridge construction. Yes, I think the current Tesco bridge will be maintained, with links connecting into the LRT station (Tesco side) and an elevator on the opposite side (Jalan Bandar 1).
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so that means there is no bridge directly connecting Setiawalk to the LRT? sad.gif

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QUOTE(lOvEbItE @ Jan 13 2016, 05:06 PM)
so that means there is no bridge directly connecting Setiawalk to the LRT?  sad.gif
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That one depends on whether the JMB wants to make the investment or not, I guess.
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post Jan 14 2016, 07:18 PM

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aiya, sad case lor...
use old bridge for spanking new LRT station
rugi for setiawalk
the tesco bridge is so old
so dirty
got beggars
haiz...
why prasarana like this??
boh mood..
should erect new bridge parallel to tesco bridge
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post Jan 18 2016, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(BUBLEMAN @ Jan 18 2016, 12:17 PM)
so is Setiawalk going to have a new bridge connecting to the LRT? I only see there is few beams at the old bridge.
And why the direct flyover into setiawalk in block after open
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jan 14 2016, 07:18 PM)
aiya, sad case lor...
use old bridge for spanking new LRT station
rugi for setiawalk
the tesco bridge is so old
so dirty
got beggars
haiz...
why prasarana like this??
boh mood..
should erect new bridge parallel to tesco bridge
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comment too rush....
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post Jan 28 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(BUBLEMAN @ Jan 18 2016, 12:17 PM)
so is Setiawalk going to have a new bridge connecting to the LRT? I only see there is few beams at the old bridge.
And why the direct flyover into setiawalk in block after open
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by right the pedestrian bridge can really connect to the old bridge to LRT but because of the U flyover cut the pedestrian bridge so it is a sad case
right now looks like is a long walk up and down and up to old bridge to LRT rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(lOvEbItE @ Jan 13 2016, 05:06 PM)
so that means there is no bridge directly connecting Setiawalk to the LRT?  sad.gif
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how convincing to get tenants by saying have LRT so please stay in setiawalk
increase rental because have LRT but walk up down up shakehead.gif
guess better than no LRT lo rolleyes.gif

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very quiet no news from JMB since last AGM notice?
what has happened
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post Jan 28 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jan 28 2016, 01:50 PM)
how convincing to get tenants by saying have LRT so please stay in setiawalk
increase rental because have LRT but walk up down up shakehead.gif
guess better than no LRT lo rolleyes.gif
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It's a short walk la, I always walk to tesco. Furthermore it will be a fully covered walk from start to end. Cannot walk, call Uber or take taxi la, short distance Uber from Setiawalk residence entrance to lrt station less than RM2 only. Cheap.

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jan 28 2016, 01:47 PM)
by right the pedestrian bridge can really connect to the old bridge to LRT but because of the U flyover cut the pedestrian bridge so it is a sad case
right now looks like is a long walk up and down and up to old bridge to LRT rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Will have escalator and elevator. Even SW Starbucks there have escalator up although I never use them because there's no need to.

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QUOTE(davkong @ Jan 28 2016, 01:57 PM)
It's a short walk la, I always walk to tesco. Furthermore it will be a fully covered walk from start to end. Cannot walk, call Uber or take taxi la, short distance Uber from Setiawalk residence entrance to lrt station less than RM2 only. Cheap.
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Are u sure RM2?

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