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post Sep 25 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 25 2013, 10:16 PM)
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 25 2013, 10:12 PM)
If u have been with FSM for some time, you'd notice that HwangIM funds are "special" in that Silver and Gold FSM clients won't get any Sales Charge discounts on HwangIM funds. wink.gif
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Yes, I know.

But it hasn't stopped me buying Hwang funds just because of fees or discounts. I look for nett returns after fees. Looking at fees alone is missing the big picture. Don't mean to give anyone that impression at all, in case that was the case.

However, there were occasions where discounts do apply across the board - the last one I think was HAQ at 1%. In addition, there is the minor point of no switching fees for Hwang funds.

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Sep 25 2013, 10:22 PM)
Yes, I know.

But it hasn't stopped me buying Hwang funds just because of fees or discounts. I look for nett returns after fees. Looking at fees alone is missing the big picture. Don't mean to give anyone that impression at all, in case that was the case.

However, there were occasions where discounts do apply across the board - the last one I think was HAQ at 1%. In addition, there is the minor point of no switching fees for Hwang funds.
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 25 2013, 10:13 PM)
I went to fund selector, selected Fixed Income......0% SC and some got no buy icon (cannot buy)
so technically 0%SC for all bond funds are correct.
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If you go into FUNDS INFO, Fund Sales Charge, Buy/Sell, Hwang..., it says 1.5%. So, technically, that's mis-leading. smile.gif

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Sep 25 2013, 08:08 PM)
what about the divident..because divident comes out and reinvested...do I need to go to phone and readd that few ringgit to get an accurate result and website does it automatically reinvest for u in the view holdings.. sorry Im really new here haha
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:50 PM

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Pinky,

Why you keep calling HAQF Ponzi? Something I miss out?

Also: Thinking out loud.... if you want to escape Hwang's sales charge, how about going via Hwang-PRS Growth. You are basically buying into fund of fund (HSOF, HSAOF and HSBF) at zero sales charge.

Similarly, if you go through Hwang-PRS Syariah Growth, you are basically buying a feeder fund of HAGF but without the sales charge.

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 25 2013, 04:34 PM)
Crazy lar 1:1 distribution... why the heck they go do that
OTHER than to con newbies that it's "cheap" (ie. NAV went down 50% wor!)
never seen such craziness before
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yarlor... conjob. They should be like those Investment Linked Fund... never declare distribution, never do unit split one. Some of their NAV = RM 3.XX/unit.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 25 2013, 11:50 PM)
Pinky,

Why you keep calling HAQF Ponzi? Something I miss out?

Also: Thinking out loud.... if you want to escape Hwang's sales charge, how about going via Hwang-PRS Growth. You are basically buying into fund of fund (HSOF, HSAOF and HSBF) at zero sales charge.

Similarly, if you go through Hwang-PRS Syariah Growth, you are basically buying a feeder fund of HAGF but without the sales charge.

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bcos its performance has been like a Ponzi but it has busted in the recent weeks when ASEAN markets tumbled tongue.gif

I know that, but I prefer to keep my investments liquid with zero exit charge should the unthinkable happens that even my emergency funds cannot cover
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post Sep 26 2013, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 26 2013, 06:05 AM)
US market closed red. Lelong session tongue.gif
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I won't call it lelong until Dow revisit 15,000 blush.gif

Btw just updated my portfolio with August 2013 factsheet data, suddenly % in China/HK jumped up, my US+Europe+Japan % dropped to 23% already from 25%+ doh.gif

Mainly due to OSK-UOB selling positions in US and increasing Japan exposure, HwangIM meanwhile increasing exposure in China/HK.

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post Sep 26 2013, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2013, 07:29 AM)
I won't call it lelong until Dow revisit 15,000 blush.gif

Btw just updated my portfolio with August 2013 factsheet data, suddenly % in China/HK jumped up, my US+Europe+Japan % dropped to 23% already from 25%+ doh.gif

Mainly due to OSK-UOB selling positions in US and increasing Japan exposure, HwangIM meanwhile increasing exposure in China/HK.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 26 2013, 08:52 AM)
Hand itchy to top up. But debt ceiling discussion will be on 15th Oct. Wait and see smile.gif
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I'd think that the market would have priced in all the negativity...if buy, buy before that.
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post Sep 26 2013, 09:32 AM

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Confirmed, Hwang Select Income and Hwang Select Bond no longer can be bought thru FSM. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2013, 09:30 AM)
I'd think that the market would have priced in all the negativity...if buy, buy before that.
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You sure? rclxub.gif

Next Monday buy in. Foresee it drop another day smile.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 26 2013, 09:35 AM)
You sure?  rclxub.gif

Next Monday buy in. Foresee it drop another day  smile.gif
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Just my bet, I'd top up OSK-UOB GEY and Pacific GSF again next week flex.gif

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post Sep 26 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2013, 09:39 AM)
Just my bet, I'd top up OSK-UOB GEY and Pacific GSF again next week flex.gif
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For reference (Sept) :
Dow Jones

19-20 : - ~200 pts.
20-23 : - ~50 pts
23-24 : - ~50 pts
24-25 : - ~61 pts
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2013, 10:32 AM)
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Confirmed, Hwang Select Income and Hwang Select Bond no longer can be bought thru FSM. sad.gif
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What is the reason cannot buy those funds?
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 26 2013, 10:35 AM)
What is the reason cannot buy those funds?
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HwangIM min. Sales Charge for equity/balanced funds is 2%, HwangIM won't allow ANYONE to sell lower than that.
1.5% for bond funds.

Under platform fee restructuring, ALL bond funds have to be sold at 0%. HwangIM won't allow that. Hence FSM removed those funds.

Though I think Select Income should not be affected, it's a balanced/mixed assets fund technically, sold at 2% SC. U see, SGD Income Fund is still there in FSM...
U got Hwang SIF right? Better raise this point to FSM...

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post Sep 26 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2013, 11:37 AM)
HwangIM min. Sales Charge for equity/balanced funds is 2%, HwangIM won't allow ANYONE to sell lower than that.
1.5% for bond funds.

Under platform fee restructuring, ALL bond funds have to be sold at 0%. HwangIM won't allow that. Hence FSM removed those funds.

Though I think Select Income should not be affected, it's a balanced/mixed assets fund technically, sold at 2% SC. U see, SGD Income Fund is still there in FSM...
U got Hwang SIF right? Better raise this point to FSM...
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I dont have HSIF, but it is in my plan if doing re-balancing in future to park the profits in HSIF.
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post Sep 26 2013, 02:23 PM

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hwang select bond cannot buy liao so if wanna rebalance next time can buy which 1 wo


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