hahha...actually i am quite far now from DPA. Just passed 1st exam at 8 Aug 2009. Waiting for next stage to come. Hope can join as PTD as soon as possible.

tenno, thanks man. finally i make it through after 2nd interview. i will go for 5 days induksi either in johor or kedah next month.

but i would like to know whether they are still going to asses me during the 5-days course before i get my placement.. if u know about it?

is it the 5 days very important that might gonna determine which ministry?

don_naza u pass the interview also right?

to other forumers who are interested to join ptd. the main principle is never give up. prepare for the exam by reading a lot. lately they no longer ask questions solely from malaysia kita book. IT, Sports, Entertainment also be included. I passed all my three exams, 2 pacS and i fail 1 interview. the 3 exams also included last august exam that make me qualified to attend the next pac in this coming disember.

I'm sure by now, most of u know that they will be interlap of attempt. like my experience, last february i was waiting for the my ptd interview after i passed my disember 2008 pac. but in that month also spa called me to attend exam again for another different attempt. my friend chose to skip the exam but then both of us fail our interview. meanwhile i passed the february exam and from that exam i made it through.

honestly its quite tiring because they will be 6 months throughout 1 year that i have to attend assesment that is related to ptd. i even heard 1 man tried 8 exams within 4 years before he finally became a ptd.

so please dont give up and always examine your mistake whenever you fail any stage. thats my key to become a ptd. (eventhough 2 years contract). Good luck.

This post has been edited by presha01: Oct 23 2009, 11:23 AM

hi ...how u know the coming PAC at december????????

Nope, there's no more assessment. Induction course are meant to get Urself familiar with the workings of the govt. During my time, our induction was 2 weeks. However, U might be called for interview for 2 agency/ministry that conducts separate interview for their potential candidates : JPA & Wisma Putra.


They dun really ask questions from the book. The book is meant to be a guideline only.


Consider himself lucky, I've known somebody who tried for 9 YEARS , & he still couldn't get into the service.

may i know the post number where u posted it?

where is ts? someone please update at the first post for the path to the ptd...i sometime got confuse here...exam first then got interviewed..... go 1 week training and induction... then go to 6 month training.... then exam then become ptd if not rejected is it correct?

6 month training how to pay bill no salary...sorry lazy to check this 48 pages for the path..

How to apply for PTD:

1. apply thru SPA
2. Exam
3. Training (will hv lots of assessment:IQ test, english, public speaking in english n malay n lots of group task to evaluate u based on 10 criteria such as leadership qualities...make sure u come prepared during this time..must wear nice2 1 n behave all time)
4. Interview
5. Induksi (now 5 days?)..at the end of induksi..they will tell ur placement
6. Report duty
7. Go for 6 months DPA training

(I've corrected the order)

Other things u need to go thru b4 can get confirmation:

8. Interview by keselamatan dlm negeri
9. Induksi training by your Ministry/Department

Your salary will start from 1st day u report for Induksi training and also get full paid salary during the 6 months DPA training

DPA training is tough but most exciting/memorable memory of being a PTD..you will undergo Indoor Module (classes on law, stats etc++) and outdoor Module (police, firefighters, outward bound and army training)

PTD considered elite post in the gov and you can easily get promoted after few years...compared to other scheme. But if u r on contract basis, dun really hope much..u'll get lesser pay and many disadvantages..

BTW..I'm an ex-PTD who resigned early n hv to pay back 2 SPA since I dun meet their minimum service requirement upon confirmation..

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Added on October 24, 2009, 10:19 pm

If u r a contract..means u r a contract. I don't think there's any scheme where they absorb contract to permanent...unless they change their rule...what happen is..if u enter as a contract usually on yearly basis n will renew the contract...but have limit on how many times can renew...at the same time you have to apply for the post as Permanent post..the advantage is ur department can recommend u to SPA...

This post has been edited by kombenasai: Oct 25 2009, 01:39 PM

What is the point of being a PTD on a contract? What happens if you do not get renewed, presumably not everyone gets renewed? Would you not have wasted your life on a job that does not develop much of a skill that's valuable in the private sector? WHo would hire an ex-PTD?

Dun be too narrow minded la...u will still relevant even-though u left PTD..huge connection n u'll be grateful

Whether get renewed o not really depend on ur performance...Last time I was paid abt 3k after minus KWSP...I was in the gov less than 3 years...I hate the job but I value the experience....

http://bedi76.blogspot.com

this guy is sharing his knowledge and experience on becoming a ptd..i contact him via emel seeking for tips and advice and suprisingly he called..he's very friendly and helpful..

[quote=kombenasai,Oct 24 2009, 10:12 PM]
How to apply for PTD:

1. apply thru SPA
2. Exam
3. Interview
4. Training (will hv lots of assessment:IQ test, english, public speaking in english n malay n lots of group task to evaluate u based on 10 criteria such as leadership qualities...make sure u come prepared during this time..must wear nice2 1 n behave all time)
5. Induksi (now 5 days?)..at the end of induksi..they will tell ur placement
6. Report duty
7. Go for 6 months DPA training

I think 3 and 4 is in wrong order.. it should be exam, PAC then only interview.

And one more things, for PTD M41 contact basis, if unable to promote to permanent position, what for all ppl going for it?? This is something like very dangerous. Example after u not unable to offer a new contact as u say, when u go to private sector again for interview, imagine what will they ask: "what u work as before this".... me: "Ptd in government". THen y u quit the position??O..u dun got a new contract for the position??that means u perform not so good la?? why should i hire u.zzzzzzzzz

i got offer to go for an interview for PTD.. somehow things happen n i can't go.. now i dun receive any offer from spa..

u are giving people the wrong info.
a contract does not mean contract forever.
PTD is contract for 2 years during which u are assess by JPA.
after that, u are absorbed as a permanent officer.
but if anyone is deemed not fit to be PTD (after the assessments),
they won't just kick u out of the service, u will be given a year extended contract to smoothen your release.

for example, JPA recently held a special assessment for a batch of contract PTD.
10% of them got low marks and will be released after a year.
90% will be permanent officer.

btw, the are contract officers which are hired by certain ministries.
these officers are not contract PTD.
how and what procedures they use, i donoo...

ps: i also don't really know the current procedure of hiring PTD becoz it's different from how i was hired.
i have asked my fren in JPA but a bit susah for me to remember.
actually, malas to remember.....

[quote=ghteh,Oct 25 2009, 01:01 PM]
[quote=kombenasai,Oct 24 2009, 10:12 PM]
How to apply for PTD:

1. apply thru SPA
2. Exam
3. Interview
4. Training (will hv lots of assessment:IQ test, english, public speaking in english n malay n lots of group task to evaluate u based on 10 criteria such as leadership qualities...make sure u come prepared during this time..must wear nice2 1 n behave all time)
5. Induksi (now 5 days?)..at the end of induksi..they will tell ur placement
6. Report duty
7. Go for 6 months DPA training

I think 3 and 4 is in wrong order.. it should be exam, PAC then only interview.

And one more things, for PTD M41 contact basis, if unable to promote to permanent position, what for all ppl going for it?? This is something like very dangerous. Example after u not unable to offer a new contact as u say, when u go to private sector again for interview, imagine what will they ask: "what u work as before this".... me: "Ptd in government". THen y u quit the position??O..u dun got a new contract for the position??that means u perform not so good la?? why should i hire u.zzzzzzzzz

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U r right...training then interview...my mistake..sudah lupa

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Added on October 25, 2009, 1:59 pm[quote=NeuroOne,Oct 25 2009, 02:04 PM]
u are giving people the wrong info.
a contract does not mean contract forever.
PTD is contract for 2 years during which u are assess by JPA.
after that, u are absorbed as a permanent officer.
but if anyone is deemed not fit to be PTD (after the assessments),
they won't just kick u out of the service, u will be given a year extended contract to smoothen your release.

for example, JPA recently held a special assessment for a batch of contract PTD.
10% of them got low marks and will be released after a year.
90% will be permanent officer.

btw, the are contract officers which are hired by certain ministries.
these officers are not contract PTD.
how and what procedures they use, i donoo...

ps: i also don't really know the current procedure of hiring PTD becoz it's different from how i was hired.
i have asked my fren in JPA but a bit susah for me to remember.
actually, malas to remember.....

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I remember my contract colleague last time got 1 year contract which got renewed on yearly basis..for 3 time..n then kick out..Hes damn good..n he never got the chance to be absorbed into permanent..He tries to apply thru normal SPA but no luck i guess

N regarding the special assessment for PTD contract yes...they have this kind of scheme..but u have to apply..its not something that when u r contract u'll be automatically absorbed into permanent later on..You still have to apply for permanent post..go thru all the assessment... (90% who apply n passed abrsorbed into permanent...maybe u r true but I don't think the stats are that high)

N I also have another contract colleague who apply for permanent PTD post like normal 1 n go thru all the assessment like all freshies who was nt a contract PTD

So in short.....if u r a contract..u still a contract..n u hv to apply to be permanent like normal way o thru scheme by JPA (which doesnt mean u'll be guaranteed a permanent PTD)

And maybe by the time I post this..all this info already outdated n now JPA or SPA hv new hiring procedure


This post has been edited by kombenasai: Oct 25 2009, 01:59 PM

oo ok..

u are referring to the old PTD kontrak N41.
now PTD M41 are all contract.

as i mentioned earlier, some ministries still hv contract officer that will still be a contract which will be renewed yearly..

and as for the special assessment, it is not the normal assessment (PAC).
PAC is before u are hired but this special assessment is held by JPA after u are hired (accepted as PTD).
it's like a review of your performance during your 2 years as a PTD.
this is for the newer batch of PTD. (i think starting with 1/2008 batch.. not sure)

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Oct 25 2009, 04:16 PM

Its M41..nvr come across N41 last time

try this link http://www.intanbk.intan.my/cda/m_ptd/on_carta.php

This post has been edited by NeO x: Oct 25 2009, 05:11 PM

Dangerous ? Isn't it the same even if U're in the private sector ? If U get terminated from Ur old company, wouldn't U be asked about it in Ur next interview ? Why would this be any more dangerous ?

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Added on October 25, 2009, 7:15 pmI dunno how long U were in the service last time, but N41 contract has been around for a while. Most of them were offered the permanent post last year. There are still a couple in some ministries who's served for more than 6 years.

As I've said in a earlier posts, & as what NeuroOne explained, the current batch of PTDs, IINM beginning with 1/2009, will no longer be offered permanent post. Instead, they will be given contract for 2 years, & in that 2 years there will be various assessments which will culminate with the DPA.

Ministries, as of early last year, can hire their own PTDs, under contract for service. Meaning, they dun have to go through all those usual process of exams, PAC & interview. Instead, they just need to submit their resume to the respective ministries & will be interviewed by the ministry's human resource dept. The salary will be similar to normal PTDs but without some allowances, like housing I think. These contract officers can be terminated by the ministry at any time. However, with the current economic situation & the govt's move to cut operation costs by 10%, ministries are no longer allowed to hire contract officers.

For those aspiring PTDs in this forum, pls la, search thru earlier posts to get what U want. I believe some of the issues here have been addressed before. If U can't even do this simple thing, I dunno how r U gonna survive in the service. Pls DO NOT think U can goyang kaki in the service, absolutely no such thing. There are some who is goyanging their kaki, no doubt, but maybe less than 1%.

This post has been edited by tenno: Oct 25 2009, 07:15 PM

What are the chances of being a permanent govt employee once you get a contract PTD position?

This also have been answered before. Just a couple of pages back I think.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=29315872

This post has been edited by tenno: Oct 25 2009, 08:45 PM