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post Sep 26 2009, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Sep 25 2009, 10:27 PM)
U'll get everything, dun worry. It's 9 months full course, full pay. As with the W situation, I'm with NeuroOne on this, take whichever comes first, U'll be in the service anyway.
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tenno can i ask, for the ptd m41, do u see any fat guy or fat girl when u attending the course??i am wondering whether can i pass the physical test rclxub.gif

Between when is the next PAC date??
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post Sep 28 2009, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Sep 28 2009, 07:00 PM)
Looks like I didn't get a call up for October exam sad.gif
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dude pls take not. the exam for oct is just for those who didn't attend the Ptd exam at 8 august 2009. and its not for the ppl who applied recently. all ppl will have a chance to test de le. blush.gif
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post Sep 29 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(drunkenmaster @ Sep 29 2009, 03:26 PM)
Anyone ?
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Have to wait until the result coming out for the ppl who take ptd exam for this week??? i think 2-3 weeks from now ba??
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post Oct 1 2009, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(chephren @ Oct 1 2009, 06:13 PM)
from my experience, it took almost 3-4 months after the exam result to the PAC stage.
i guess it'll be held in Jan 2010.  smile.gif
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august 3-4 month become nov or dec?
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post Oct 14 2009, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ksano @ Oct 14 2009, 12:27 PM)
just be patient and wait  smile.gif  if no latter or anything, just... accept the fact that... we were forgotten  sad.gif  tongue.gif
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letter and not latter.
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post Oct 20 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 17 2009, 09:43 PM)
Starting from batch 1/2009 (IINM), the PTD post is no longer offered as permanent post. Now they're going back to waaaaaayyy back in terms of recruitment & probation period. Current PTDs, after U've successfully completed the interview & others, U will be offered a 2 year contract. U will undergo the DPA course (Diploma Pengurusan Awam) just like those hired prior to that batch 1/2009. The catch is that, if U failed the DPA, U will be terminated & there ends Ur PTD career la. For my batch & those prior to 1/2009, if U fail DPA, U will still be in the service, but U will not get confirmed before U repeat all the subjects or modules that U failed.

Maybe this sounds so severe & dramatic, but mind U that the failure rate of DPA is extremely low. In my batch of 372 ppl, nobody failed. So was the other batches before me. In fact, maybe the only way U can fail Ur DPA is due to disciplinary problems.

What I'm talking about above is for the posts offered by SPA. As I've mentioned in previous posts, there are other ways to enter the PTD scheme.
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not so understand about this. as u means from 1/2009 batch onward, those who cannot pass DPA will directly terminate from the service??
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post Oct 21 2009, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 21 2009, 12:46 PM)
Yups. I believe there are some sorta appeal process or whatever, but basically, that's why they hire on contract in the 1st place. It's easier to terminate contract staff than permanent staff.

But, then again, pls la... it's not so easy to fail DPA okay... relax la...
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hahha...actually i am quite far now from DPA. Just passed 1st exam at 8 Aug 2009. Waiting for next stage to come. Hope can join as PTD as soon as possible. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(presha01 @ Oct 23 2009, 11:20 AM)
tenno, thanks man. finally i make it through after 2nd interview. i will go for 5 days induksi either in johor or kedah next month.

but i would like to know whether they are still going to asses me during the 5-days course before i get my placement.. if u know about it?

is it the 5 days very important that might gonna determine which ministry?

don_naza u pass the interview also right?

to other forumers who are interested to join ptd. the main principle is never give up. prepare for the exam by reading a lot. lately they no longer ask questions solely from malaysia kita book. IT, Sports, Entertainment also be included. I passed all my three exams, 2 pacS and i fail 1 interview. the 3 exams also included last august exam that make me qualified to attend the next pac in this coming disember.

I'm sure by now, most of u know that they will be interlap of attempt. like my experience, last february i was waiting for the my ptd interview after i passed my disember 2008 pac. but in that month also spa called me to attend exam again for another different attempt. my friend chose to skip the exam but then both of us fail our interview. meanwhile i passed the february exam and from that exam i made it through.

honestly its quite tiring because they will be 6 months throughout 1 year that i have to attend assesment that is related to ptd. i even heard 1 man tried 8 exams within 4 years before he finally became a ptd.

so please dont give up and always examine your mistake whenever you fail any stage. thats my key to become a ptd. (eventhough 2 years contract). Good luck.
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hi ...how u know the coming PAC at december????????
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post Oct 25 2009, 12:01 PM

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[quote=kombenasai,Oct 24 2009, 10:12 PM]
How to apply for PTD:

1. apply thru SPA
2. Exam
3. Interview
4. Training (will hv lots of assessment:IQ test, english, public speaking in english n malay n lots of group task to evaluate u based on 10 criteria such as leadership qualities...make sure u come prepared during this time..must wear nice2 1 n behave all time)
5. Induksi (now 5 days?)..at the end of induksi..they will tell ur placement
6. Report duty
7. Go for 6 months DPA training

I think 3 and 4 is in wrong order.. it should be exam, PAC then only interview.

And one more things, for PTD M41 contact basis, if unable to promote to permanent position, what for all ppl going for it?? This is something like very dangerous. Example after u not unable to offer a new contact as u say, when u go to private sector again for interview, imagine what will they ask: "what u work as before this".... me: "Ptd in government". THen y u quit the position??O..u dun got a new contract for the position??that means u perform not so good la?? why should i hire u.zzzzzzzzz
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post Oct 26 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 25 2009, 07:06 PM)
Dangerous ? Isn't it the same even if U're in the private sector ? If U get terminated from Ur old company, wouldn't U be asked about it in Ur next interview ? Why would this be any more dangerous ?


Added on October 25, 2009, 7:15 pm
I dunno how long U were in the service last time, but N41 contract has been around for a while. Most of them were offered the permanent post last year. There are still a couple in some ministries who's served for more than 6 years.

As I've said in a earlier posts, & as what NeuroOne explained, the current batch of PTDs, IINM beginning with 1/2009, will no longer be offered permanent post. Instead, they will be given contract for 2 years, & in that 2 years there will be various assessments which will culminate with the DPA.

Ministries, as of early last year, can hire their own PTDs, under contract for service. Meaning, they dun have to go through all those usual process of exams, PAC & interview. Instead, they just need to submit their resume to the respective ministries & will be interviewed by the ministry's human resource dept. The salary will be similar to normal PTDs but without some allowances, like housing I think. These contract officers can be terminated by the ministry at any time. However, with the current economic situation & the govt's move to cut operation costs by 10%, ministries are no longer allowed to hire contract officers.

For those aspiring PTDs in this forum, pls la, search thru earlier posts to get what U want. I believe some of the issues here have been addressed before. If U can't even do this simple thing, I dunno how r U gonna survive in the service. Pls DO NOT think U can goyang kaki in the service, absolutely no such thing. There are some who is goyanging their kaki, no doubt, but maybe less than 1%.
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u got something misunderstanding thr...i am replying to kombenasai post that mention that contact PTD will never absorb to become a permanent position. I am just giving some opinion. No harsh feeling pls. blush.gif

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post Oct 27 2009, 10:21 PM

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Anyone know when is the next PAC date??
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post Oct 30 2009, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(KoolKat @ Oct 29 2009, 09:36 PM)
They called me for an interview tomorrow for PTD M41 contract in Kementerian Tenaga, Technology Hijau & Air. The thing is I also got a job with JobStreet for salary more than twice the PTD's salary. So, I reject the offer for the interview. After reading this post, I think PTD job sound good if  I am 10 years younger. You see I'm 37 and just came back from living in oversea. With PTD, I think I'll be starting at the same level with those way younger than me. Anyway I'm not sure if I'm making the right decision. Any comment? BTW, I did not submit my resume to them, have no idea who did. 
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37 years old . Starting with PTD m41, better dun. As i know PTD M41, u r getting the same lvl with those who are 20xx years old, and u r same level with them because u r interviewing M41 instead of M44 or others. Correct me if wrong. So take the jobs with 5k++ salary is better. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 2 2009, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(FemmeHarihaz @ Nov 2 2009, 01:11 PM)
hurm. hye everyone.

i passed my exam on 080809. and received news that i passed them somewhere in September. biggrin.gif

very much interested to work as PTD. smile.gif

just need to know some things.

eventhough the spa site told me that i passed, i've yet to received any official letter regarding it. or there is none? shakehead.gif

then, how many participants were there in previous pre-PAC sessions?
from what i've read throughout this topic, some said that it might be in Jan 2010. but there's another exam on Oct. will these two sessions have their pre-PAC together?

i've yet to think about the next steps but i'm a bit more concern about this pre-PAC.

thanks for this topic. really helped me in a way or two. rclxms.gif

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Hi same here, waiting for PAC. I think ppl who take ptd test on october will be with us as they are counted to be same batch with us. After i review the forum, PAC will be held after dragging about 5 month by refering to the last batch of ppl. that means october 2009 +5 month = march 2010 @@". Between i also haven receive the official letter after 2 months the result was announced.

Myself quite worry about public speaking >.<" and having many nightmare that even though i prepare well and having many ideas, when the time standing in front of a group of ppl, my head like already BLANK. ANYONE CAN HELP ME AR!!! HELP!!!

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post Nov 3 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Nov 3 2009, 10:44 AM)
then just close your eyes la.
u can't see anyone...  tongue.gif

ok, what i did was,
when the class starts, i sit in front, near where people will be standing doing their public speaking.
i have my public speaking note a piece of paper.
when it is my turn to speak, i put the paper straight up on the chair so i could see it.
then, when i'm talking, and forget what i'm gonna say, i just look at the paper la, can see my note..
but then, you have to look at people also la, don't just look at the paper..  thumbup.gif
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Hoho...close my eyes -,- . can c note one ar...then no problem//wahhahah
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post Nov 11 2009, 08:59 PM

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can check for panggilan PAC already biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 11:01 PM

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HUH. I GOT MINE AT IKWAS (12/12) <---Saturday .

Tarikh : 12/12/2009
Masa : 08:00 pagi - 05:00 petang
Tempat : INTAN KAMPUS WILAYAH SELATAN (IKWAS),
BATU 2, JALAN BATU PAHAT,
PETI SURAT 141,
86007 KLUANG,
JOHOR DARUL TAKZIM

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post Nov 12 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Nov 12 2009, 03:26 AM)
gudluck guys.
remember. follow what they ask you to do and not do...
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Hi. Can give some exampl of not to do??
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post Nov 14 2009, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Nov 13 2009, 12:15 PM)
Hi.

I've sent my application in August. Apart from a letter of acknowledgment, I haven't received anything else.
Does it mean I fail? @.@
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How would u fail if u dun take any exam??
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post Nov 14 2009, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Nov 14 2009, 01:56 AM)
Then why didn't I get any invitation to the exam?
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U apply at august. Sure dun have any invitation le. -.-". I think next batch of PTD m41 test will be held on feb 2010. So as tenno say, just wait patiently lo.
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post Nov 15 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(noisemonkie @ Nov 15 2009, 12:17 PM)
good things won't happen overnight smile.gif
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