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 Samsung Galaxy Note III - Official V1, 3rd Gen of the original Phablet !!

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post Sep 10 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 10 2013, 09:31 AM)
I cannot fathom why people comparing Zi and Note 3.

Note 3 is one and only phablet with S-Pen and highest end spec.

Its very easy to choose. You want S-Pen and highest end spec get Note 3. For everything else (I'm not sure why everything else is important  hmm.gif ) get others.  tongue.gif
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You, being an engineer, can see beyond appearances into the specs. The vast majority don't see beyond how it looks. That's the fact of how people behave. Marketeers capitalize on this.
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post Sep 10 2013, 10:59 AM

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Fun stuff to do with Google Now? Some may like it.

With the hardware of the Note 3, this should be pretty slick. I recall Qualcomm said that they could emulate the Moto X's always listening CPU by updating some firmware for their companion DSP processor.


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post Sep 10 2013, 01:14 PM

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MediaTek was the first with true 8 core iinm. Launched last month but not sure of availability.

Mutiprocessing is both os and program working together. Apart from some huge mpp servers in research, military and academia, commercial apps aren't all that great at multiprocessing. Adobe took a few versions to get their stuff mp enabled and so did the 3d software guys.

Os mp awareness with single threaded programs will still suck. I shall not name one example from a very large co.

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post Sep 10 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM)
whats the point of having 3 GB of RAM when samsung cant even get the smoothness of its UI right .

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First off the note 3 is the first phone with 3gb and it isn't even available yet so how can you comment about the ui?

300ms isn't going to kill you is it?
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:21 PM

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Leave the troll alone. Let the product arrive and test it. If it lags it lags. If not they will bash the faux leather.

Still, screw Samsung if it does lag.....
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:19 PM)
judging by the current s4 touchwiz UI..  that said, if note 3 uses the same UI as the s4.  then its the same thing.  correct me if im wrong . thanks
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Since you give a specific example I will give you a specific answer.

S3 and note2 have the same tw version. There is some occasional lag on s3 but nothing major. Note 2 has no lag.

S4 has reported lags but you're not going to die from it right? Note3 is expected to do away with those issues.
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:24 PM)
yeah thats true.

i personally think that nowadays deciding on buying an android device with respect to pure hardware performance is just too main stream.

its not just the performance ,  UI plays an important role .

without smooth UI..  whatever highest end performance put into the phone.  the results is still going to be sucks
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Man....stock ui is just a ui....just coz windowx 8.x locks you in to metro doesn't mean you are locked in in Android.
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
yeah thats true..

what i meant was if you want to buy an android device. you would choose a smooth UI/phone or a bit laggy UI/phone out of the box?
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To me, screw the stock ui. I look at specs. I don't know how to use TW as it only lasts 5 mins after a reset or even when I get a new device. I have 5 androids and they are all running Nova. I do not remember how each different devices' stock ui looks like or behaves.
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post Sep 10 2013, 02:23 PM

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We are holding computers, not phones anymore. More RAM is ALWAYS a good thing to reduce paging. Why are in memory accelerators all the rage in enterprise database and application software??

More RAM lets you do more. Do not ever think you are using a phone to browse. It is a computer that uses your phone radio as a modem only.
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QUOTE(xproc @ Sep 10 2013, 02:25 PM)
is it just me or other will think of this... since ram is designed long time ago because processor read at ram faster than read at spinning harddisk (pc era)....

since nowadays all mobile phones all using flashed based chip storage, why they dont skip all over the ram thing, directly read at the storage chips, does it makes sense?

Instead of
processor (SoC, 1.7gHz) <> ram (2gb) <> storage (8/16/32gb)

how about
processor (SoC, 1.3 gHz) <> flashed based ram/storage (8/16/32gb)

then no more lag things happens lor... samsung is hardware maker, i root on then to do this, or maybe qualcomm or apple or intel or nvidia or amd can do this also...
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The RAM is a table to do the work you bring out of your cabinet (storage). I think this is called Von Neumann architecture iinm. I could be wrong since it's a long time ago.

Nobody has been able to produce nanosecond access storage cheaply enough so we are still stuck with multi tier access.
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QUOTE(un_id @ Sep 10 2013, 02:28 PM)
i highlighted the keyword of the day.  tongue.gif

TW is very fancy, with many features as well which is great, but due to that it requires more processing power.. Samsung realizes that, thus 3gb RAM for us in Note 3..

Direct comparison.. HTC One on Sense 5 is way smoother than XZU UI, eventho XZU having S800. Both same 2gb RAM..

again, the keyword.  laugh.gif
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In a sense yes but I suspevt that some features of tw causes what is called a "block" in Android, resulting in a "wait state" therefore it lags while waiting for the block to release.

This is a programming optimization problem.
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Omg this thread will bust 2500 in the next few hours... I will only be home around 11pm.

Hang in there guys and gals.
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post Sep 10 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(PainHacker @ Sep 10 2013, 02:47 PM)
i really love reading all your opinion haha. btw, does the phone's features gone when we are using nova or apex launcher?
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In note2, some widgets don't work and the pen popup dialog won't popup.

These have workarounds via apks and no need to muck about w flashing.
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 02:52 PM)
Why can't Samsung fan boys accept the fact that TW is not smooth enough. 

There are people talking about TW laggy
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First off, the note community recognises that there is lag in tw on OTHER models.....NOT the note 2 or hopefully note 3. That is all. And 300ms to 500ms will not kill you. If it does buy another phone where the manufacturer has decided the best launcher for u, and u get lots of accessories to go with it.
QUOTE(PainHacker @ Sep 10 2013, 02:52 PM)
then may i know why people recommend using those launcher if the features that we need are gone?
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It's only a few widgets. ...all other functionslity is still there.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2954393

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