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 Gold Investment Corner V7, all about gold

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post Feb 15 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 15 2014, 11:24 PM)
Talking without using your brain. I am just wondering. If you even understand why gold and silver price shot up yesterday. I guess many people are actually expecting the QE to continue.

Go ahead, imagine that the global economy is in not a rout when an increase in interest rate is going to destroy everything. haha. All of the things you just said will likely happen.

China not bad? ok. haha

Yeah we need more people like you to "drive" the price down. I hope the price continue to be down though. I get more worried because prices are getting "high"
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Relax everyone is entitled to their own opinion...he's got a point n I agree on the part ppl park their fund in gold when they sense the market is too volatile...When there's an uprising, war, turbulent times....so I agree on this.
.to me treating gold as a hedge against inflation is a blatant hoax...

March next month the world equity market is going to get more strenuous n volatile n as a typical investor I'm gonna park some of my fund in gold n commodity based fund...Means I'm using gold just as an instrument to stabilize my portfolio...
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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Feb 15 2014, 09:55 PM)
Don't think gold will rise so much this year or even the year after. The thing with gold is that, the price will only rise when the global economy is in a rout. The worse the economy, crisis, war etc, the better for gold.

The U.S. is in a much better shape this year. Its recovery is getting traction. In Europe, there is no more rumour about breakup. Japan is so so, China hmm still not so bad.

Unless there is a major negative event around the corner, rest assured gold is not gonna go up that much.

Don't believe me? Put 20 years of historical gold prices into excel, and see when the prices went up and down. smile.gif
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gold has moved up so much already and you said no?? it was predicted to drop but instead it kept going up and you still in denial?
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post Feb 16 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 15 2014, 11:14 PM)
can to tell whether above 1 mil or not?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 15 2014, 11:17 PM)
gold has moved up so much already and you said no?? it was predicted to drop but instead it kept going up and you still in denial?
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Perhaps you can share with us why gold price will continue to rise?

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post Feb 16 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 16 2014, 12:00 PM)
Any answer will be either I bluff you or you call me a bluff. Which one you prefer?
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u say it, i trust it thumbup.gif
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post Feb 16 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 16 2014, 12:09 PM)
u say it, i trust it  thumbup.gif
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Oh, sometimes, no answer is a better answer.

How much can a economic student worth?

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post Feb 16 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 15 2014, 11:17 PM)
gold has moved up so much already and you said no?? it was predicted to drop but instead it kept going up and you still in denial?
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Heh, gold went up by how much, may I ask? In the short term, movement of $50 to even $200 is possible due to market uncertainties. But there is no way it's going to shoot to $1800 or even $2000, unless a crisis happens.

The end of QE3 is imminent. Janet Yellen is gonna continue tapering at every single FOMC meeting, unless something really bad happens to the U.S.

Tell me why would gold price would continue going up? When money easing is slowly being soaked up?

True, I do agree there is a lower bound to gold price. Perhaps it won't go lower than $1100 or so, because of underlying demand for gold from bracelets, rantai etc.
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post Feb 16 2014, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Feb 16 2014, 02:25 PM)
Heh, gold went up by how much, may I ask? In the short term, movement of $50 to even $200 is possible due to market uncertainties. But there is no way it's going to shoot to $1800 or even $2000, unless a crisis happens.

The end of QE3 is imminent. Janet Yellen is gonna continue tapering at every single FOMC meeting, unless something really bad happens to the U.S.

Tell me why would gold price would continue going up? When money easing is slowly being soaked up?

True, I do agree there is a lower bound to gold price. Perhaps it won't go lower than $1100 or so, because of underlying demand for gold from bracelets, rantai etc.
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HOW SURE are you that there will not be a global crisis?
Even your assumptions you made of USA and China are far off.

Yellen gonna taper? biggrin.gif
With US real Unemployment at >20% tapering will welcome the next DEPeRSSion.
WHO wants to be remembered for that?

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gi...ad&t=1391782568

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post Feb 16 2014, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 16 2014, 03:56 PM)
HOW SURE are you that there will not be a global crisis?
Even your assumptions you made of USA and China are far off.

Yellen gonna taper?  biggrin.gif
With US real Unemployment at >20% tapering will welcome the next DEPeRSSion.
WHO wants to be remembered for that?

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gi...ad&t=1391782568

laugh.gif
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Based on martin Armstrong economic confidence model... Another correction is coming once Dow Jones index hit a min of 16500 index - 17800 before the start 3rd quarter of this year...of which after that period the Dow are gonna fly upwards again for the next 1 year before they suffer another more bigger crash...

So I'm holding gold based fund up until the small correction that happening on Dow later this year. After that I'll sold all my gold fund and ride the rally of the Dow until next year august...
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post Feb 17 2014, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 16 2014, 02:56 PM)
HOW SURE are you that there will not be a global crisis?
Even your assumptions you made of USA and China are far off.

Yellen gonna taper?  biggrin.gif
With US real Unemployment at >20% tapering will welcome the next DEPeRSSion.
WHO wants to be remembered for that?

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gi...ad&t=1391782568

laugh.gif
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I don't know where did you get you "real unemployment rate" from. But the Fed is for sure not looking at those numbers. The recovery in the U.S. economy is fragile. The unemployment rate has gone down to 7.6% but true, it was partly contributed by some leaving the labour market.

The housing market is getting stronger. The case-shiller 20 cities house price index went up 13.6% recently, the highest in several years. Both manufacturing and services PMIs are positive.

The weak labour market & low inflation rate are the two biggest problems in the US right now. Late last year, in December, I was totally convinced that the Fed is not gonna taper anytime soon. But I was proved damn wrong, the Fed reduced QE3 by $10 billion in January and another $10 billion in February.

Despite the risks that tapering brings, it seems like the Fed is convinced that US recovery will only get stronger this year, and warrants a continuous $10 billion tapering at every single FOMC meeting.
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:39 AM

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UOB = 142.60/139.30 today
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Feb 17 2014, 10:39 AM)
UOB = 142.60/139.30 today
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hi bro, im newbie in paper gold investment,
btw , between pbb paper gold & uob paper gold , which is better ?


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post Feb 17 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(whyip1988 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:00 AM)
hi bro, im newbie in paper gold investment,
btw , between pbb paper gold & uob paper gold , which is better ?
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Uob spread is smaller
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QUOTE(whyip1988 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:00 AM)
hi bro, im newbie in paper gold investment,
btw , between pbb paper gold & uob paper gold , which is better ?
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if you are trading on short term, then go for futures
the contract now consistently trades with spread within 1-2 ticks
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Gold hits 3-month high on US growth fears
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...S-growth-fears/
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post Feb 17 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 16 2014, 02:56 PM)
HOW SURE are you that there will not be a global crisis?
Even your assumptions you made of USA and China are far off.

Yellen gonna taper?   biggrin.gif
With US real Unemployment at >20% tapering will welcome the next DEPeRSSion.
WHO wants to be remembered for that?

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gi...ad&t=1391782568

laugh.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 16 2014, 07:36 PM)
Based on martin Armstrong economic confidence model... Another correction is coming once Dow Jones index hit a min of 16500 index - 17800 before the start 3rd quarter of this year...of which after that period the Dow are gonna fly upwards again for the next 1 year before they suffer another more bigger crash...

So I'm holding gold based fund up until the small correction that happening on Dow later this year. After that I'll sold all my gold fund and ride the rally of the Dow until next year august...
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To invest based on someone who didn't have peers review and was jailed for fraud is more than bravery.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 18 2014, 09:46 AM
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post Feb 17 2014, 04:18 PM

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Hi guys,

I realized that Gold has been dropping like mad recently, can help summarize why? and whats the outlook for future gold investments?

e.g 2015 Q1 Up or Down?
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Feb 17 2014, 04:18 PM)
Hi guys,

I realized that Gold has been dropping like mad recently, can help summarize why? and whats the outlook for future gold investments?

e.g 2015 Q1 Up or Down?
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u just got ur time machine back or internet? Now gold is up up up redi. But slightly affected by USD exchange rates
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post Feb 17 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(roger roger @ Feb 17 2014, 04:41 PM)
u just got ur time machine back or internet? Now gold is up up up redi. But slightly affected by USD exchange rates
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erk... when I started trading gold, it was in the range of 1400.00 - 1911.00... current live price is 13XX.XX is still low... so I was seeking opinion on when majority people target it's going to come back to it's old glory days. icon_rolleyes.gif

I remembered it went up couple of months ago to 16xx.xx... then dropped back to 12xx.xx... hopefully it will go up back again and this time break the 2000.00 barrier.
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Feb 17 2014, 04:50 PM)
erk... when I started trading gold, it was in the range of 1400.00 - 1911.00... current live price is 13XX.XX is still low... so I was seeking opinion on when majority people target it's going to come back to it's old glory days.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I remembered it went up couple of months ago to 16xx.xx... then dropped back to 12xx.xx... hopefully it will go up back again and this time break the 2000.00 barrier.
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Sound like holding some heavy metal in hand bro brows.gif

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