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 Gold Investment Corner V7, all about gold

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prophetjul
post Aug 4 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Aug 4 2013, 04:27 PM)
I will go in big when it goes down to 1, 150 +/-
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No you wont......twill be 1100 then 1050, then 1000 tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Aug 13 2013, 07:59 AM)
so even hari raya, gold bounces a little only... i still kenot buy camera because of depreciated gold price. dem it... raya without camera
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Whats gold price gotta do with hari raya?

You buy gold so you can gain to buy a..............camera? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 13 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Aug 13 2013, 09:56 AM)
haha... yup... i bought when the price was RM14x. the amount is exactly the  same price with the camera i intended to buy..
kononnya can gain extra money out of it.. wait for raya promotion. But the gold keep declining... dem it blush.gif
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If you wanna make some fast money, its casino.
Gold is no casino. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2013, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Aug 15 2013, 09:31 AM)
I think if the POG punches through 1350 by end of this week..it would be looking good
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Thing is: Did you buy or its BYE BYE? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Aug 15 2013, 09:58 AM)
Bought at 1338 level.... sweat.gif
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Just? thumbup.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:24 AM

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U.S has NO GOLD

GERmany DEMANDS their gold back!

The U.S Feds REFUSES to allow GERmay to inspect their OWN gold!





Now you know WHY gold was whacked down.
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:53 AM

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IS OBAMA GOING TO CRUSH GOLD AGAIN?

He is going to have a meeting with Top bankers and financiers tonight.
Last time they had a meeting, this happened

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-19/o...ld-market-again
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post Aug 21 2013, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Aug 20 2013, 06:14 PM)
I'm ready to make a grand entry into gold investment anytime in the soonest future since doing a complete exit in Sept '2011.

Meanwhile, my Maxis stocks have appreciated in price from ~RM5 to ~RM7 and been collecting reasonable dividends every 3 months for a few years already.
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You Da man! thumbup.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Aug 21 2013, 09:35 AM)
Lol!, ...don't be jelly.
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I am not jelly.

I bought gold in 2002 for $230 p oz....how can I be jelly?

No need to shew off.......... yawn.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(hey_there @ Aug 21 2013, 09:48 AM)
Physical gold? Wow, now I'm damn jelly u d.
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no need to jelly........just follow yer investment instincts
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post Aug 21 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Aug 21 2013, 09:59 AM)
I'm b4 you, ...1991.
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That's nice............but you would have been, as Cherroy always pointed out, suffering for many years. biggrin.gif


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post Aug 21 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Aug 21 2013, 10:06 AM)
Gold as a part of investment is fantastic and it's my hopeful wish to get into it again soon.

When I was younger, I can only afford to pickup 1 piece at a time every several months setting aside 8% of my income so, I feel awesome whereas others might have just spend all their income away, instead.

By the way, Cheeroy should never have seen the cup as half empty.
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I presume at the time you were probably buying Kruggers, Maples, Pamps or Eagles?

I was studying gold from 1998 to 2000 before taking the plunge in 2002.
This was after the asean crisis in 1998.

Interesting times in the last 10 years.

Cherroy was sharing his pains.....cant see the full half. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 21 2013, 10:48 AM)
This is real life experience.
I am not discourage people to have gold, in fact, I always view gold is a good option for asset allocation/diversification.

Just do not take for granted having gold must inflation hedge or must go up, as gold had its own lost decades as well.  smile.gif
Whether I see it is half empty or not, it doesn't matter, as said, this is experience people had gone through.  smile.gif
I think life experience does not equate fundamentals of investing.

Indeed, one cannot take for granted investing in ANYTHING, not just gold for the matter.

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post Aug 28 2013, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(qwertyly @ Aug 28 2013, 12:09 AM)
I plan to hold till early or mid of Sept. And sell everything few days prior Fed next meeting in mid of Sept. It looks like QE taper is on the way.
why is it on?


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post Aug 28 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(qwertyly @ Aug 28 2013, 09:03 AM)
Fed seen making first taper move in September
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Appears none of them are Jack SURE! biggrin.gif

Are you?


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post Aug 28 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(qwertyly @ Aug 28 2013, 01:52 PM)
Yes, you are right, no one in the market really know what Fed will do, I bet even Bernake himself is not 100% sure.

But we at the same time have not heard anything that the taper maybe delay, so I believe Fed is on track, but at lower level, not as much as 85billion, to test the market.

Another important piece of hint is the US Aug payroll report due Sept 6, one last piece of important info between now and Sept meeting.

So to be safe, I will off load my truck early next month after the Aug payroll report out (maybe to load the truck with more) and see what will happen next.

No harm to keep the gun powder in my own pocket dry and safe to prepare for next shot.

Oh yes, if you believe gold's going to go up, buy silver.
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my indicator , not what pipu say, is the unemployment rate.

My take is this: If they take their foot off the pedal, the interest rates will go up.
This will tank the U.S economy which is not showing many signs of growth.

No One wants a depression. Bennanke is a anti deflation bug, He rather inflation which is felt the world over now
because of his policies.

Its not yet.

As for gold and silver, I have BOTH. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 28 2013, 02:15 PM)
Sure or not?
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This is my take....its up to you to DYODD.

101 econ: If you raise interest rates, costs of doing biz goes up. If biz is already bad, guess what will happen? biggrin.gif
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Anyone else think Armageddon is soon?

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia

A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.

According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-order...-attacks-syria/
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2013, 12:45 PM)
It would be wise to revisit the wisdom of Buffett and his thoughts on gold:

1. “Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head.”

2. “The problem with commodities is that you are betting on what someone else would pay for them in six months. The commodity itself isn’t going to do anything for you….it is an entirely different game to buy a lump of something and hope that somebody else pays you more for that lump two years from now than it is to buy something that you expect to produce income for you over time.”

3. “Gold is a way of going long on fear, and it has been a pretty good way of going long on fear from time to time. But you really have to hope people become more afraid in a year or two years than they are now. And if they become more afraid you make money, if they become less afraid you lose money, but the gold itself doesn’t produce anything."

4. “I will say this about gold. If you took all the gold in the world, it would roughly make a cube 67 feet on a side…Now for that same cube of gold, it would be worth at today’s market prices about $7 trillion – that’s probably about a third of the value of all the stocks in the United States…For $7 trillion…you could have all the farmland in the United States, you could have about seven Exxon Mobils (XOM) and you could have a trillion dollars of walking-around money…And if you offered me the choice of looking at some 67 foot cube of gold and looking at it all day, and you know me touching it and fondling it occasionally…Call me crazy, but I’ll take the farmland and the Exxon Mobils.”

5. “The major asset in this category is gold, currently a huge favorite of investors who fear almost all other assets, especially paper money (of whose value, as noted, they are right to be fearful). Gold, however, has two significant shortcomings, being neither of much use nor procreative. True, gold has some industrial and decorative utility, but the demand for these purposes is both limited and incapable of soaking up new production. Meanwhile, if you own one ounce of gold for an eternity, you will still own one ounce at its end.”

6. “What motivates most gold purchasers is their belief that the ranks of the fearful will grow. During the past decade that belief has proved correct. Beyond that, the rising price has on its own generated additional buying enthusiasm, attracting purchasers who see the rise as validating an investment thesis. As 'bandwagon' investors join any party, they create their own truth — for a while."

7. “I have no views as to where it will be, but the one thing I can tell you is it won’t do anything between now and then except look at you. Whereas, you know, Coca-Cola (KO) will be making money, and I think Wells Fargo (WFC) will be making a lot of money and there will be a lot — and it’s a lot — it’s a lot better to have a goose that keeps laying eggs than a goose that just sits there and eats insurance and storage and a few things like that."
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Warren is a FIATster.

Gold is the opposite of Fiat.
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 02:34 PM)
Gold could fall to $1,250 if Fed tapers next week: UBS

The outlook for gold prices looks gloomy if the Fed goes ahead and begins tapering its securities purchases, Bank of America analysts say.

Such a move at next week’s FOMC meeting  would represent the first step in a tightening of the Fed’s monetary policy. An increase in interest rates, or even the promise of increased interest rates demonstrated by tapering bond purchases, would depress gold prices because “rates represent opportunity costs of holding gold,” wrote BofAML metals strategist Michael Widmer in a note. The Fed currently buys $85 billion in mortgage and Treasury debt each month.

Gold prices would probably fall to $1,250 an ounce in the first move, said Joni Teves, an analyst at UBS, in an interview with CNBC on Tuesday. “But I certainly wouldn’t rule out another attempt below $1,200 if, for example, the Fed is more aggressive than the market is currently expecting,” she said in the interview.

“Armed conflicts especially in the Middle East have historically had a visible impact on gold prices through increased geopolitical risk and often oil price spikes,” wrote BofAML analysts. “We believe this time is not different: gold could rally immediately after the conflict starts although the rally could subside if the conflict does not escalate.”

But given the easing of geopolitical tensions, “the key for gold is if the situation escalates or if it is protracted,” said Teves on CNBC.
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If interest rates increases,

a) the DJ will go to 13000

b) gold will go to 1200

c) US unemployment will rise to 9% in 1Q2014

d) US GDP growth will reverse to sub zero

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