
Transformers Thread v69, Takara VS Hasbro VS 3rd Parties VS Wifes
Transformers Thread v69, Takara VS Hasbro VS 3rd Parties VS Wifes
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Oct 16 2013, 05:27 PM
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Late spam on MP Prowl
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Oct 16 2013, 08:55 PM
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did you guys get the special shoulder cannon & coin for MP-17?
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Oct 16 2013, 09:10 PM
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Not for me though, coz i preorder-ed mine from hobbysearch, only those from amazon got the special parts rite?
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Oct 16 2013, 09:53 PM
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i got mine locally & i got the coin & cannon, but only 1 cannon. i guess it's a bonus.
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Oct 17 2013, 09:10 AM
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One particular product price determination is not 100% just by its material but the efforts of RnD & design (don't forget about the mold too, which cost a bomb even for a deluxe size toy). Same goes to third party product, which some always complaint why non-official product can be so costly, now you see the hidden cost. That's the reason why imitation/counterfeit can be sold so cheap due to just copy other's final products, not to mentioned lousy material been used. As a passionate toy collector, we shouldn't go for KO, don't buy if can't afford. A very good example is you buy a pirated CD of Metallica while you are a hardcore fan of them. Just my 2 cents. Peace.
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Oct 17 2013, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(putu_mayam @ Oct 17 2013, 09:10 AM) One particular product price determination is not 100% just by its material but the efforts of RnD & design (don't forget about the mold too, which cost a bomb even for a deluxe size toy). Same goes to third party product, which some always complaint why non-official product can be so costly, now you see the hidden cost. That's the reason why imitation/counterfeit can be sold so cheap due to just copy other's final products, not to mentioned lousy material been used. As a passionate toy collector, we shouldn't go for KO, don't buy if can't afford. A very good example is you buy a pirated CD of Metallica while you are a hardcore fan of them. Just my 2 cents. Peace. Beli Ori, Hapuskan Cetak Rompak. KO everywhere man, even MP line oso not safe. |
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Oct 17 2013, 11:11 AM
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Oct 17 2013, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(RegistraCHAN @ Oct 17 2013, 11:11 AM) Urs Ori Or KO saya punya ORI. Both I enjoys, For each Ori, I Have a KO Do Identified KO, U Have To hav One, 2..Or maybe 3 kekadang ada KOs juga. |
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Oct 17 2013, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(putu_mayam @ Oct 17 2013, 09:10 AM) One particular product price determination is not 100% just by its material but the efforts of RnD & design (don't forget about the mold too, which cost a bomb even for a deluxe size toy). Same goes to third party product, which some always complaint why non-official product can be so costly, now you see the hidden cost. That's the reason why imitation/counterfeit can be sold so cheap due to just copy other's final products, not to mentioned lousy material been used. As a passionate toy collector, we shouldn't go for KO, don't buy if can't afford. A very good example is you buy a pirated CD of Metallica while you are a hardcore fan of them. Just my 2 cents. Peace. Chances are they are also using the same mold by engaging the same producer of the original maker. |
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Oct 17 2013, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(putu_mayam @ Oct 17 2013, 09:10 AM) One particular product price determination is not 100% just by its material but the efforts of RnD & design (don't forget about the mold too, which cost a bomb even for a deluxe size toy). Same goes to third party product, which some always complaint why non-official product can be so costly, now you see the hidden cost. That's the reason why imitation/counterfeit can be sold so cheap due to just copy other's final products, not to mentioned lousy material been used. As a passionate toy collector, we shouldn't go for KO, don't buy if can't afford. A very good example is you buy a pirated CD of Metallica while you are a hardcore fan of them. Just my 2 cents. Peace. We shouldnt go for ko...But i really cant afford to go mitsubishi lancer... I can only go for proton inspira... |
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Oct 17 2013, 08:58 PM
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Inspira is released under mutual agreement of mitz and proton, so it's not KO. Third party is just a good name for those who like, they don't get proper license to use the character which influences the buyer, technically speaking they are KO. who would buy a third party product which does not exist in TF universe with premium price?
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Oct 17 2013, 09:47 PM
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Oct 17 2013, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Oct 17 2013, 09:58 PM) Inspira is released under mutual agreement of mitz and proton, so it's not KO. Third party is just a good name for those who like, they don't get proper license to use the character which influences the buyer, technically speaking they are KO. who would buy a third party product which does not exist in TF universe with premium price? The definition of KO is Knock-offs, so something original must exist before it can be knocked-off / duplicated using cheapo/inferior material.Many 3rd party TF products have these attributes , unlike KO: - Toy designed from scratch , hence mould not stolen from official producers /hasbro (unlike the ones we see on tesco carded in cheap plastic and loose joints, eg. G1 combiners or oversized legends figures) - Toy took inspiration from characters from TF universe , this means the characters exist although its not a direct visual representation from official media (comics , artist illustration) ... gosh even Hasbro made some radical creative license in their Classics like and giving G1 names to new toys. Of coz the premium price is a deterrence. but considering they're making these for a niche market , its expected. |
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Oct 17 2013, 10:52 PM
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I totally agree with what most people say here.
when thing come to "Ori VS KO" (Retail price VS Super cheap price) We have to say NO to KO. Since KO is just stealing from ORI without paying anything. but what else if "speculator VS KO" imaging now those ppl. who still keep TFX01.and some even purposely buy more to do so. not that we dont 1 to buy when it release. just that some figure as collector should know its harder to find or cut stock when it release. and this definitely give the opportunity for "speculator " to create their monopoly now this is the term of "Super high price VS Super cheap price" i understand that they keep collectible and they should sell higher price since everything also will rise.(even our petrol So i 100% agree with "buy late,buy expensive" term. but with those price that so call "increase" is way over the value. its unacceptable. if i still ego to buy ori in this term , feel like kena cheat pula. and once again this is a cruel world Sorry guys.seriously with no offence. we come here to share our happiness together with what we have. This is the way of collect figure. Not to come here argue , pointing finger or fight who right who wrong. |
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Oct 18 2013, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Oct 17 2013, 09:52 PM) The definition of KO is Knock-offs, so something original must exist before it can be knocked-off / duplicated using cheapo/inferior material. What alan say is correct... Third party is not knock off... knock off is same as actual product with cheaper material and slightly chgs on it... Many 3rd party TF products have these attributes , unlike KO: - Toy designed from scratch , hence mould not stolen from official producers /hasbro (unlike the ones we see on tesco carded in cheap plastic and loose joints, eg. G1 combiners or oversized legends figures) - Toy took inspiration from characters from TF universe , this means the characters exist although its not a direct visual representation from official media (comics , artist illustration) ... gosh even Hasbro made some radical creative license in their Classics like and giving G1 names to new toys. Of coz the premium price is a deterrence. but considering they're making these for a niche market , its expected. |
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Oct 18 2013, 01:24 AM
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![]() at last... by megaton45, on Flickr Woot woot woot... at last... 1 vehicle mode, 1 robot mode n 1misb... reach first before dat fat ass scalp... hahaha... |
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Oct 18 2013, 10:42 AM
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Oct 18 2013, 10:45 PM
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Michael Bay attacked in HK !
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Oct 19 2013, 12:28 AM
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Predacon rising deluxe in tesco from rm65 drop to rm60 then drop to rm50 then now drop to rm45... within few days... lol...
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Oct 19 2013, 01:22 AM
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Saw retail selling AM Wild rider for RM49.00. pm me if you want to know location
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