power to weight ratio is important..... that is one of the winning factor

There's no way the Jazz will out accelerate Altis 1.8 at any speed, my father has an Altis 1.8 and i am driving City Vtec 1.5. Altis is just too powerful for City/Jazz to catch up, if u dun believe welcome to arrange a drag race

How do you use the CVT gearbox during the drag?

S-mode with manual shifting

hehe..gouki heard bout u in jjfc forum from a friend..i still beleive jazz vtec can outrun altis 1.8...but u should give better explanation to other forumers here..

If u have driven both cars before then u will know whether it's possible or not , not to say Jazz is slow but i am just stating my experience here

This is not a problem!!!

AP can be reused as like some of our Datuk's sons are doing.

i wonder when the ap is first issued? during tdm's administration or before that?

Not really, accotding to the new National Automitive Policy, AP will be given according to the local assembly as well, as the gov agrees to give out AP if the criteria of having local assembly to assemble car for local market or for export is met.

For instance, toyota Mysia assembles locally vios, avanza and so on, and for a certain ammount of AP has been allocated by the gov for them to import Yaris, Wish and now the Camry from Thailand.

This is actually to encourage car manufacturers to have local assembly factories here, furthermore since Mysia still the biggest car market in SEA. This policy somehow benefits toyota and honda for the time being.

1.5 and 1.8 ...
as usual ... a more powerful CC car will certainly be faster .

So you're saying that the Altis/Civic 1.8 will definitely smoke the old EG hatchback with the 1.6 B16A?

It all depends on many factors, dude. Power-to-weight ratio, that's one thing. Another factor is engine tuning and technology. If you compare, City VTEC (1.5) with old Waja (1.6 4G18), obviously the City will beat it la.

Actually in this case I'm quite surprised. Didn't expect the Altis to be so powerful... but then again the engine is used in the MR-S also

Hmmm, ever try D to S and from D to S again?

Me? I'm just a small potato. Wat to hear bout me?

crazysilverjazz compare to other jazzes

hi to all, really new to this board...
happened to read this board as myself is actually looking for a new car...

my current criteria:

1) fuel consumption.
2) comfort for driver & passenger
3) NO proton/perodua
4) price < 100K

glance through all the more popular cars in M'sia, that leaves me:

1) Honda City i-DSi (~RM80K)
2) Honda Jazz i-DSi (~RM94K)
3) Toyota Yaris (~RM92K to RM99K)

Currently the RM4k reduction actually brings the Yaris (1.5G) to <RM90K price range... given all it's strong points... wouldn't it be quite ok?

IHMO, we should not compare how low price a particular vehicle should be somewhere else...

i actually test drived Yaris 1.5S and i have to say... i'm totaly satisfied with the experiece... agreed that the boot area is small... real small but luckily it can be slightly compensated with the movable rear seats... i might end up choosing it... hehe...

seriously, any good suggestions whether the 1.5S can justified the extra few thousand RM?

the most obvious additional is the 15" front Ventilated disc brake & 15" solid disk brake vs 14" front ventilated+rear drum brake, 6 speakers vs 4 speakers, aerobody kit...


thanks

The Jazz VTEC having discounts as well if you find the right salesperson.
Try test drive the Jazz since you have test drive the Yaris.

do you really need the car so urgently?
if not, why not wait till end december or next year. by then you can squeeze more discount or get a 07 make.
if you want comfort, why not check out the sentra or altis 1.6 too.
fits your budget.

yup... i'll definitely do that...

not to say that urgent... just beginning to seek...
personally i dislike sentra coz it relatively
1)looks conservative by now days...
2)the cabin space feel not that spacious somehow...
3)fuel consumption not as good...
and for altis 1.6... is it local assembly unit? i forgot to check the price for this unit... how much does it cost?

And to all that having good knowledge in Automobiles, regarding my questions above... is the additional few thousand RM justified the additional stuff for the Yaris1.5S? (i mean those better brakes, more speakers, aero body kit, etc...)

thanks again...

the last i checked, the 1.6 altis is selling at around 100k, and yes, it's CKD
go check it out while you are checking the yaris.
and remember to test drive.

thanks fr the advice...
i actually sat in the altis & it really feel comfortable...
but overall, it's look & design looks relatively old/conservative...
perhaps due to i prefer those later looks & designs (the more sporty/elegant type)...
just my opinion...