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Enquiries/Recommendations GE 40 vs Y410p vs Illegear RE-13 Pro, Recommnedation/Suggestion Needed

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post Aug 13 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(marquis @ Jul 31 2013, 11:39 AM)
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which notebook you choose?? this threads so informative... or long reads... alot expert pour their data/info so.. what notebook you choose..?
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 01:33 AM)
which notebook you choose?? this threads so informative... or long reads... alot expert pour their data/info so.. what notebook you choose..?
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As of right now and the sudden hike in unexpected expenditures, I don't forsee my self buying one anytime within the next two months sweat.gif

To answer your question though, it's either the GE40 or the RE13.

It all really boils down to what Eiraku has (so kindly) pointed out. Mobility in terms of battery life.

I love it when all these people pop in! I learn lotsa new stuff biggrin.gif

Thanks again guys smile.gif

PS: Unseen, why are you so intent on knowing which one I pick? sweat.gif

PPS: Lemme know if this thread should be closed. I think leaving it open is a brilliant idea tongue.gif
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 13 2013, 10:44 AM)
As of right now and the sudden hike in unexpected expenditures, I don't forsee my self buying one anytime within the next two months sweat.gif

To answer your question though, it's either the GE40 or the RE13.

It all really boils down to what Eiraku has (so kindly) pointed out. Mobility in terms of battery life.

I love it when all these people pop in! I learn lotsa new stuff biggrin.gif

Thanks again guys smile.gif

PS: Unseen, why are you so intent on knowing which one I pick? sweat.gif

PPS: Lemme know if this thread should be closed. I think leaving it open is a brilliant idea tongue.gif
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Two months.. many things can happen in that time. Yeah.. GE40 or the RE13 seems to be the usual two candidates for powerful small-ish machines that will not burn a hole so big in your wallet that your balls gets burnt too.

Also, it's normal for people to want to know the choice of others. It builds confidences in their decisions or future decisions etc. LOL. Or will give them reason to doubt or reinforce their own decisions.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 13 2013, 11:52 AM)
Two months.. many things can happen in that time. Yeah.. GE40 or the RE13 seems to be the usual two candidates for powerful small-ish machines that will not burn a hole so big in your wallet that your balls gets burnt too.

Also, it's normal for people to want to know the choice of others. It builds confidences in their decisions or future decisions etc. LOL. Or will give them reason to doubt or reinforce their own decisions.
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LOL! I like the condition of my balls the way it is thankyouverymuch laugh.gif

Digging around in other forums seems to reveal the same two choices. It's either the MSI or Clevo. A lot recommend the P34G too...such a shame we won't be seeing it on our shores though.

Myself, I just need input from real users such as the three active people sharing their thoughts here. Helps a whole lot in making an informed decision. From being all undecided I've managed to narrow down my "key requirement".

Maybe I'll wait for PrinceJ to announce a Diwali or Christmas sale to decide. That seems to be the pivoting element in my purchase for non-critical items nowadays laugh.gif


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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 13 2013, 12:57 PM)
LOL! I like the condition of my balls the way it is thankyouverymuch laugh.gif

Digging around in other forums seems to reveal the same two choices. It's either the MSI or Clevo. A lot recommend the P34G too...such a shame we won't be seeing it on our shores though.

Myself, I just need input from real users such as the three active people sharing their thoughts here. Helps a whole lot in making an informed decision. From being all undecided I've managed to narrow down my "key requirement".

Maybe I'll wait for PrinceJ to announce a Diwali or Christmas sale to decide. That seems to be the pivoting element in my purchase for non-critical items nowadays laugh.gif
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well if you ever wanted to actually own big boy gaming notebook you come buy my notebook in 3 month time MSI GT70(gtx780m) i probably selling around 5.5K... i buy high end notebook twice or three time a year... so i also sell my used notebook in 4-6 month...

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Edit: i may buy Illegear 17 RX... seem Single powerful GPU not enough to my taste... maybe dual... try Alienware..Asus G series and now MSI GT series maybe Illegear next... blush.gif

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 02:30 PM)
well if you ever wanted to actually  own big boy gaming notebook you come buy my notebook in 3 month time MSI GT70(gtx780m)  i probably selling around 5.5K... i buy high end notebook  twice or three time  a year... so i also sell my used notebook in 4-6 month...

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Edit: i may buy Illegear 17 RX... seem Single powerful GPU not enough to my taste... maybe dual... try Alienware..Asus G series and now MSI GT series maybe Illegear next...  blush.gif
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Why do you like dual?

I just moved from dual GTX 580 on my desktop to single GTX 780.

I find dual very bugger, lots of issues and doesn't give the kind of yield you would expect. Plus it's hot and is taking up lots of slots.. LOL
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 13 2013, 02:55 PM)
Why do you like dual?

I just moved from dual GTX 580 on my desktop to single GTX 780.

I find dual very bugger, lots of issues and doesn't give the kind of yield you would expect. Plus it's hot and is taking up lots of slots.. LOL
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oh my... when i say dual... dual GPU notebook.. smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 03:20 PM)
oh my... when i say dual... dual GPU notebook.. smile.gif  smile.gif
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Yeah, I know it's dual GPU notebook, but doesn't the same still apply? SLi scaling + power consumption + drivers compatibility.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 02:30 PM)
well if you ever wanted to actually  own big boy gaming notebook you come buy my notebook in 3 month time MSI GT70(gtx780m)  i probably selling around 5.5K... i buy high end notebook  twice or three time  a year... so i also sell my used notebook in 4-6 month...

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Edit: i may buy Illegear 17 RX... seem Single powerful GPU not enough to my taste... maybe dual... try Alienware..Asus G series and now MSI GT series maybe Illegear next...  blush.gif
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If I wanted a "big boy" gaming rig, I'd just get a desktop...Having something that big and bulky kinda defeats the purpose of having a laptop. Especially in terms of portability and battery life, imho. I'm not a self-professed pro-gamer that needs to have an SLI/Crossfire config. smile.gif

I'll be happy enough with a fit-for purpose notebook that is a jack of all trades. Don't really need a "big boy" gaming notebook rolleyes.gif In fact, it'd be the equivalent of getting a MBP just so I could blend in at starbucks laugh.gif

Going back on track, is a full HD on a 13/14 incher overkill though? Thoughts?
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 13 2013, 03:43 PM)
If I wanted a "big boy" gaming rig, I'd just get a desktop...Having something that big and bulky kinda defeats the purpose of having a laptop. Especially in terms of portability and battery life, imho. I'm not a self-professed pro-gamer that needs to have an SLI/Crossfire config. smile.gif

I'll be happy enough with a fit-for purpose notebook that is a jack of all trades. Don't really need a "big boy" gaming notebook rolleyes.gif In fact, it'd be the equivalent of getting a MBP just so I could blend in at starbucks laugh.gif

Going back on track, is a full HD on a 13/14 incher overkill though? Thoughts?
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For gaming laptop fhd is overkill for 13-14", hd screen is better because u need frame rate more..but if its an ultrabook,then for sure would go fhd or even ips panel
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 13 2013, 03:43 PM)
Going back on track, is a full HD on a 13/14 incher overkill though? Thoughts?
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You will need the grunts to push the FPS out. Most notebook at that size lacks the GPU power for FullHD if you're gaming. If you're not gaming at all, the higher the resolution the better.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 13 2013, 03:25 PM)
Yeah, I know it's dual GPU notebook, but doesn't the same still apply? SLi scaling + power consumption + drivers compatibility.
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not to me desktop dual gpu not same Notebook Dual gpu... notebook is mobile i can carry one hand and text another hand.. smile.gif smile.gif well my humble opinion...
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 13 2013, 03:43 PM)
If I wanted a "big boy" gaming rig, I'd just get a desktop...Having something that big and bulky kinda defeats the purpose of having a laptop. Especially in terms of portability and battery life, imho. I'm not a self-professed pro-gamer that needs to have an SLI/Crossfire config. smile.gif

I'll be hprobably ugh with a fit-for purpose notebook that is a jack of all trades. Don't really need a "big boy" gaming notebook rolleyes.gif In fact, it'd be the equivalent of getting a MBP just so I could blend in at starbucks laugh.gif

Going back on track, is a full HD on a 13/14 incher overkill though? Thoughts?
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If it's general use, as long as it comes with a decent GPU (and you have the cash), general screen quality overrides resolution IINM. In the case of the GE40 vs the RE13, Prince J has kindly updated the fact that they are ONLY using the high quality Chi Mei panels so that shoots the GE40's screen to high heaven.

Which is WHY probably MBPs are selling so well, even with last gen innards. Even the non Retina screens are so damn good. Plus the effing battery life and the build. If not for THE PRICE and the outdated innards, I think MBPs (especially the 15 incher) present a near perfect blend between size, mobility and power (especially with a 660 over the stock 650 GPU).

I do understand the need for bulky "GAMING" laptops over the cost savings of a desktop, being the nomad that I am. It's just far far more "portable", no matter how "bulky". Throw it in a bag and you can bring it anywhere.

I prefer smaller, more portable machines personally though, but that's just me.

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Sorry that last time I forgot to mention that mine is using Chi Mei LCD. tongue.gif

Btw, just had a game of Battlefield 3 on 1366x768 on Ultra today in my office.
My colleague is so amaze that it play so smooth and it looks so sharp and beautiful.
Though he already own a GTX 780 gaming desktop rig at home.

Poisoning TS more. brows.gif
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QUOTE(phantom_zero @ Aug 13 2013, 03:56 PM)
For gaming laptop fhd is overkill for 13-14", hd screen is better because u need frame rate more..but if its an ultrabook,then for sure would go fhd or even ips panel
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 13 2013, 05:00 PM)
You will need the grunts to push the FPS out. Most notebook at that size lacks the GPU power for FullHD if you're gaming. If you're not gaming at all, the higher the resolution the better.
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So in other words, get a FullHD for other utilities but when gaming, scale it down to a lower resolution? That'd work right?

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 13 2013, 05:52 PM)
If it's general use, as long as it comes with a decent GPU (and you have the cash), general screen quality overrides resolution IINM. In the case of the GE40 vs the RE13, Prince J has kindly updated the fact that they are ONLY using the high quality Chi Mei panels so that shoots the GE40's screen to high heaven.

Which is WHY probably MBPs are selling so well, even with last gen innards. Even the non Retina screens are so damn good. Plus the effing battery life and the build. If not for THE PRICE and the outdated innards, I think MBPs (especially the 15 incher) present a near perfect blend between size, mobility and power (especially with a 660 over the stock 650 GPU).

I do understand the need for bulky "GAMING" laptops over the cost savings of a desktop, being the nomad that I am. It's just far far more "portable", no matter how "bulky". Throw it in a bag and you can bring it anywhere.

I prefer smaller, more portable machines personally though, but that's just me.
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They really give you the best of what they can offer huh these Illegear people? laugh.gif

A MBP is a brilliant machine. It's just that I find myself usually associating it to hipsters and the like. I've used several of my friend's one and I can truly understand why once one has started using it, one does not turn back to a PC. As you said, the build, screen and battery life is made just right. If not for the pricing, I'm sure most people would make it their default on-the-go rig.

IMHO, the idea of a gaming laptop has been oversold and not to mention, overused. For someone such as yourself, then perhaps it has it's merits...however my years in uni lugging around a 15" old skool Dell was really not pleasant. In retrospect, I didn't even need all that power - I spent more time with word and excel than anything else! sweat.gif The only saving grace was the dreadful cold of Aberdeen so you don't sweat much laugh.gif

So I've promised myself never again, to get something heavy and bulky. When I say notebook, I mean something not likely heavier than a book. Portable means I can lug it around half the day and not worry about stunted shoulders laugh.gif

QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 13 2013, 08:08 PM)
Sorry that last time I forgot to mention that mine is using Chi Mei LCD.  tongue.gif

Btw, just had a game of Battlefield 3 on 1366x768 on Ultra today in my office.
My colleague is so amaze that it play so smooth and it looks so sharp and beautiful.
Though he already own a GTX 780 gaming desktop rig at home.

Poisoning TS more.  brows.gif
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Way to go man. Seriously, my fortitude saving throw isn't good against poison of this type sweat.gif

Since you've used it for a while now, how do you rate the battery life of the RE-13? I'm talking in terms of non-gaming use - Excel, Office, Web Browsing etc.
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
So in other words, get a FullHD for other utilities but when gaming, scale it down to a lower resolution? That'd work right?
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Try it out for yourself. Some people can see the differences, others can't.

For me, down scaling almost always results in blurred fonts and details. Though I have not seen in real life a 13.3" FullHD to HD down scaling. It's just something like speakers/headphones. Some people can tell the difference and are picky, others don't care and as long as there's bass, they're happy.

QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
IMHO, the idea of a gaming laptop has been oversold and not to mention, overused. For someone such as yourself, then perhaps it has it's merits...however my years in uni lugging around a 15" old skool Dell was really not pleasant. In retrospect, I didn't even need all that power - I spent more time with word and excel than anything else! sweat.gif The only saving grace was the dreadful cold of Aberdeen so you don't sweat much laugh.gif

So I've promised myself never again, to get something heavy and bulky. When I say notebook, I mean something not  likely heavier than a book. Portable means I can lug it around half the day and not worry about stunted shoulders laugh.gif
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I, myself, ever since my first year Uni days with a 15" old school Dell, decided to just assemble a Shuttle SFF computer. Since I really only moved it between Australia and Malaysia, and it was more powerful than any laptops back then (mobile GPU was only then just starting out, so mainly just low end GPUs).

QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 13 2013, 08:08 PM)
Sorry that last time I forgot to mention that mine is using Chi Mei LCD.  tongue.gif

Btw, just had a game of Battlefield 3 on 1366x768 on Ultra today in my office.
My colleague is so amaze that it play so smooth and it looks so sharp and beautiful.
Though he already own a GTX 780 gaming desktop rig at home.

Poisoning TS more.  brows.gif
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What monitor does your friend who has the GTX780 play on? For me, I will never be amazed with 1366x768, no matter what the details settings are at. Of course, that's after playing it on a 2560x1440 27".

QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
Way to go man. Seriously, my fortitude saving throw isn't good against poison of this type sweat.gif

Since you've used it for a while now, how do you rate the battery life of the RE-13? I'm talking in terms of non-gaming use - Excel, Office, Web Browsing etc.
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While I do not have a RE-13, I can give you my 2cents worth on the GE40. On Power Saving mode (brightness 50%, CPU max 50%), I can go for 5+ hours of excel, office, web browsing. Web Browsing consumes the most power.

On Balance mode (brightness 80%, CPU max 99% so no Turbo Boost), I get about 3-4 hours.

The real killer here for me is the GPU, consuming most of the power.
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QUOTE(marquis @ Aug 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
Way to go man. Seriously, my fortitude saving throw isn't good against poison of this type sweat.gif

Since you've used it for a while now, how do you rate the battery life of the RE-13? I'm talking in terms of non-gaming use - Excel, Office, Web Browsing etc.
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Unfortunately the battery only last 2.5-3 hours on web surfing, microsoft office app.
Hoping that a BIOS will solve the battery issues.
Maybe I should change to 4702MQ if it does help a bit. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 14 2013, 11:29 AM)

What monitor does your friend who has the GTX780 play on? For me, I will never be amazed with 1366x768, no matter what the details settings are at. Of course, that's after playing it on a 2560x1440 27".

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He is using a normal 1920x1080 24".
Translate to 91.71 pixels per inch.

That must be one nice monitor you have there. Mine is only 1920x1080 on 24" at home like my colleague. sad.gif

So, a 2560x1440 on 27" is around 108.79 pixels per inch.
A 1366x768 on 13.3" is around 117.83 pixels per inch.
I'm guessing it should looks almost the same, if not of the slight blur due to the non-native resolution.
With Ultra settings on Battlefield 3, it enables all the highest Antialiasing features and so on, to make it look more sharper.

Sample :

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It actually looks much better than the sample.
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QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 14 2013, 05:32 PM)
Unfortunately the battery only last 2.5-3 hours on web surfing, microsoft office app.
Hoping that a BIOS will solve the battery issues.
Maybe I should change to 4702MQ if it does help a bit.  hmm.gif
He is using a normal 1920x1080 24".
Translate to 91.71 pixels per inch.

That must be one nice monitor you have there. Mine is only 1920x1080 on 24" at home like my colleague.  sad.gif

So, a 2560x1440 on 27" is around 108.79 pixels per inch.
A 1366x768 on 13.3" is around 117.83 pixels per inch.
I'm guessing it should looks almost the same, if not of the slight blur due to the non-native resolution.
With Ultra settings on Battlefield 3, it enables all the highest Antialiasing features and so on, to make it look more sharper.

It actually looks much better than the sample.
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You're comparing raw ppi, but you must remember, at higher resolution, you can have larger UIs as well and the fonts and from sitting back at normal viewing distance, it's pretty damn nice. Not to poison you. tongue.gif

Also, your friend is crazy to have a GTX780 for a FullHD screen. That's overkill. If I was still using my 24" monitor I would have stuck to my GTX580 SLi as that handled everything thrown at it.

Most likely what made the 1366x768 look decent on the 13.3" was the fact that the screen is FullHD to begin with, so with that many pixels there, it down scaled nicely.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 14 2013, 09:53 PM)
You're comparing raw ppi, but you must remember, at higher resolution, you can have larger UIs as well and the fonts and from sitting back at normal viewing distance, it's pretty damn nice. Not to poison you. tongue.gif

Also, your friend is crazy to have a GTX780 for a FullHD screen. That's overkill. If I was still using my 24" monitor I would have stuck to my GTX580 SLi as that handled everything thrown at it.

Most likely what made the 1366x768 look decent on the 13.3" was the fact that the screen is FullHD to begin with, so with that many pixels there, it down scaled nicely.
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I have actually many times thought of changing my current LCD(5 years old) to one like yours(27" 2560x1440).
But then I'm only using it to connect to my laptop(got no desktop), which is definitely not powerful enough to game on it. sad.gif
Unless it still looks good when scaling to 1920x1080. Does it?

About my colleague, he bought the PC(not including monitor) from his rich friend at a very good price. Lucky him.

Yup, it most probably is because of the many pixels on the 13.3" LCD.
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QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 14 2013, 10:28 PM)
I have actually many times thought of changing my current LCD(5 years old) to one like yours(27" 2560x1440).
But then I'm only using it to connect to my laptop(got no desktop), which is definitely not powerful enough to game on it. sad.gif
Unless it still looks good when scaling to 1920x1080. Does it?

About my colleague, he bought the PC(not including monitor) from his rich friend at a very good price. Lucky him.

Yup, it most probably is because of the many pixels on the 13.3" LCD.
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Yeah, in that sense the retina resolution on the MBP isn't too bad as well then if scaling is decent. I'll definitely make it a point to take a look when possible.

RE: Monitor, while I enjoy the quality of the 27" and the resolution at 2560x1440, I feel the money needed on graphic cards hurts the experience. LOL. And no, scaling it down doesn't look good, otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded to the GTX780 and just scaled it down.

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