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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V27, all the older sifus went MIA liao :(

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post Aug 2 2013, 03:09 PM

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rclxms.gif good stuff, let's keep our Iswaras ALIVE!!


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2013, 04:14 AM)
PHEW finally done editing everything and restoring all the old members pictures (nostalgia man)
huge thanks to rozz_1291 and Peekab0o for your previous work  notworthy.gif

Hopefully all the existing owners can continue being active and even if your saga/iswara is retired you're still more than welcome to share your experiences/advises  notworthy.gif
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post Aug 10 2013, 07:09 PM

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you need a timing light.. better not to meddle with it, but if you really want to, make sure you mark the current position of the distributor, then loosen the screws and turn it SLIGHTLY to adjust. forgot which direction is retard, so have to trial and error.... using timing light is best.

something like this method:

http://youtu.be/sGzxCCaxDjI?t=4m40s


QUOTE(kaliku @ Aug 10 2013, 06:52 PM)
Would that be possibly done by any mechanic or do I need to go to a workshop with special equipment that requires that/tuning?
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poolcarpet
post Aug 16 2013, 09:32 AM

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You really need a timing light for this. Adjust it, take note then test. Last time I experimented and set too advanced, even light acceleration results in pinging. Quickly adjusted timing back. Also tried the other end, retard timing, and engine felt so sluggish blink.gif


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 15 2013, 11:14 PM)
because my mech told me maxed for ron95 liao (so far no knocking la), tell me dun greedy, but i still kinda wanna push it sweat.gif

sinister_sid sifu tolong ajar  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:20 PM

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Well, i'm a science kinda person. If you can't measure it, you can't tell for sure. Remember my butt dyno statements last time? tongue.gif

If i'm not wrong, 4g13 timing is about 5 ± 2 BTDC @ 800 ± 100 RPM (googled this info). Verify with the sticker on the hood and this is the base to start with. With a timing light, you can check and adjust accurately, perhaps to 7 BTDC and see how it goes. If it pings, then reduce to 6 or even 5 if necessary. Otherwise, take a risk and push it to 8 and beyond, but always always listen out for pinging otherwise it's gonna be an expensive diy tuning tongue.gif


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 16 2013, 11:38 AM)
eh everyone's been telling me no need timing light sad.gif

well this morning gave some test, flat roads can accelerate 160-170++ no problem while prior it'll struggle a little. i suppose after the accident early this year when they refitted the new distributor they didn't bother adjusting it properly and just went "full retard" (pun pretty f***ing much intended)
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post Aug 16 2013, 01:05 PM

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No idea... Pinjam one last time smile.gif

I looked around and saw this ad
http://www.lelong.com.my/inductive-xenon-t...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Maybe if you have enough kaki, share the cost and everyone can meet up and diy self tuning tongue.gif if you get 17 people, each one pay rm10 only tongue.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 16 2013, 12:23 PM)
expensive? how much these lights cost anyways?
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post Aug 22 2013, 10:49 PM

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Less than rm400 incl install. Go call up few windscreen specialists to ask. Many in kepong, ampang for example.

QUOTE(BroSP @ Aug 22 2013, 09:20 PM)
hi all. how much for proton saga windscreen? mine cracked. too bad, hit bt stone fall from lorry. n he run away
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poolcarpet
post Aug 23 2013, 08:45 AM

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If it's cracked already, then you should NOT CHEAT and buy insurance now to claim. You know why cost of insurance is going up and up? because of fraudulent claims. Sorry not trying to be all righteous or whatever, but I get very agitated when people complain about cost of insurance going up, or when corruption happens but yet ordinary rakyat will think of trying to cheat/bribe for little things. It starts with the little things!!!! In any case, if you add on windscreen insurance, companies will want to take photo/inspect your windscreen (guess why, thanks to fraudulent claims!!!)

I didn't have my notes with me yesterday, but I checked and the cost is this:

RM320 laminated incl. installation about 1 hour
MG AUTO WINDSCREEN SDN BHD

This is just one shop, there are many more just make some effort to call and ask.

Alternatively, there are so many shops that do windscreen repair for less than RM100 if it's a small crack/chip. Go survey and find out ,there is one in SS2 main road, Glass Mechanic, I've used this shop before and repairs to a 4" long crack is still good after so many years now (3 or 4 I can't remember). E.g. look at this blog -> http://www.bhauto.my/retak-cermin-boleh-diperbaiki/

All the best, sorry if my rant offended some.
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post Aug 23 2013, 04:05 PM

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I did ask for ori proton, and that was the price quoted to me. Anyway, prob need to ask around.
For the same reason as you, i repaired my windscreen rather than replace (not on this proton, other car). Even if insurance cover the windscreen, unfortunately to retint would cost another big bomb. Vkool elite.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 23 2013, 01:12 PM)
i do agree with your rant/post and none offense taken. i insure windscreen every year (rock magnet, sigh) anyways and i am reluctant to claim because my huper optik is more expensive (500+ lol) than the glass itself ROFL

umm not sure on the windscreen, however original proton FWS cost around 300 liao, labor definitely wont be 20. (after labor ~400)
up to an individual if they want to stick with ori or not la XD
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post Aug 24 2013, 08:58 PM

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wrong place to ask lah bruder... i recommend you *drum rolls* PROTON ISWARA! well below rm140k tongue.gif

but honestly i think very little manual cars these days, depends on your requirements and preference :-)

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 24 2013, 08:01 PM)
if i want a manual car, what choices i have besides an inspira?
under 140k or so, manual car. choices?
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post Aug 24 2013, 10:33 PM

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Glass mechanic ss2 - bring to them and let them evaluate.

QUOTE(evolution120 @ Aug 24 2013, 10:08 PM)
how about those widnscreen with slightly crack? know where to fix em other than the shop u mentioned
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post Aug 26 2013, 02:26 PM

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Nice, do you sell comprehensive insurance for proton iswara models, older than 10 years?
Any excess? Loading?

If you do cover, I'm sure there are many potential customers here.

I don't mind sharing that my current insurance is subject to minimum 12 sum insured, plus 10% loading. If you can offer as low as rm8k with 5-10% loading, no excess, no ridiculous pa add on, then maybe you're get a few other customers here.

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QUOTE(bulin3388 @ Aug 26 2013, 02:28 AM)
Hi bro, usually fix a small chip crack or even replace an entire windscreen is fast usually take few hours can be done. But of course also depends on how busy the shop that you are going la.

I am Calvin which is a General insuranec agent and not a life agent.

Usually if it is small chip crack, i would  advice you to just repair the windscreen instead changing the whole windscreen.

Do note that if you repair the windscreen, there will still be remaining/balance sum insured covered on your windscreen cover.

If you choose to replace the whole windscreen, then you will lose your entire windscreen cover insurance and will need to purchase again if your vehicle expiry is still long way to go if you afraid anything will happen in near future. Bear in mind that you will also need to pay a full amount of 15% of the windscreen desired sum insured chosen and not a Pro-rate basis.

You can go to any of your current insurer panel workshop and get the windscreen repair or replace without any hassle as nowadays our insurer is link to the panel workshop the system directly. One good workshop would be Dr. Cermin.

I do sell car insurance, house insurance, office insurance, restaurant insurance and personal insurance such as health (without capping of lifetime limit) / personal accident insurance.

Please do drop me an email on bulincal@yahoo.com if you have any enquiry or needed a servicing agent on your property or cars renewal insurance advice.

Thank you.

Calvin
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post Aug 26 2013, 07:28 PM

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For mine, lock to lock is about 3. Power steering.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 24 2013, 05:45 PM)
no idea rofl... i've asked a few other people, they also said its around 2-2.5 from neutral to lock.
so the power steering has something to do with it!
mine is an iswara full spec auto with power steering while davidke (aiya dunno unker choy LYN ID) dares kenjiliew the iswara we tested should be a LMST (or maybe iswara?) without power steering.
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:00 PM

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no prob, don't feel it's any different from other similar cars.

I don't think the lock to lock has anything to do with turn radius, as someone mentioned, the radius is probably same for both ps and nps versions, but for nps I think it would help A LOT of there are more turns (gearing, leverage) to move those heavy wheels. Imagine on extreme, if nps version has lock to lock of 2, pengsan man to turn the wheels tongue.gif

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/steering2.htm

"The steering ratio is the ratio of how far you turn the steering wheel to how far the wheels turn. For instance, if one complete revolution (360 degrees) of the steering wheel results in the wheels of the car turning 20 degrees, then the steering ratio is 360 divided by 20, or 18:1. A higher ratio means that you have to turn the steering wheel more to get the wheels to turn a given distance. However, less effort is required because of the higher gear ratio."

The nps version is probably based on the traditional rack and pinion system, while ps version is different as we can see from the link above. Probably that's the reason why diff lock to lock but ultimately I think it's still the same in terms of the position of the wheel. (Take one nps and another ps, park side by side, turn to full lock on one side and visually inspect - should be same degrees tongue.gif)



QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 26 2013, 08:07 PM)
hmm same as mine, so do you have any real difficulty in tight u-turns? like some traffic light u-turns?
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:23 PM

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no idea, i think the only real way to test is take two diff iswara, from same starting position do a full lock turn to right, then measure the radius and compare with other iswaras.... very troublesome...

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 26 2013, 09:12 PM)
i see, so it's kinda more towards on my tires and how the suspensions/chassis are stiffened up?
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post Sep 2 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Aug 31 2013, 04:10 PM)
car become idle ...then then engine temp goes up
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If driving? Will temp go up? If no, then very possible radiator fan or the fan switch (bottom of radiator, near the coolant release plug) kaput already. Go to any foreman, they can wire test the fan to see if it spins when wired directly bypass the switch. If don't spin, fan or wiring/connection kaput. If spon, radiator fan switch kaput.

P/s did you happen to change radiator or fan switch recently?

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post Sep 7 2013, 10:43 AM

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hi all, when i open the boot, the interior and boot light doesnt come on. when i open a door, it will light up. any ideas where the switch or trigger is for the boot?
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post Sep 7 2013, 07:20 PM

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Ok thanks Quaza and Albert, will try and check. Funny thing is as I open the boot, the boot light will flicker, so it could be wiring related... sad.gif

Bought some LED interior and boot light bulb, so changing them to see how it looks like smile.gif

QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 7 2013, 02:02 PM)
The location of the switch is different for sedan (near the hinge) and hatchback (I think is in the latch).
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post Sep 8 2013, 10:15 PM

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Possibly from the fresh air intake flap... It's not completely airtight evenif you select ac air circulation only. I remember someone posting that they sealed up the flap.

QUOTE(moolaswiss @ Sep 8 2013, 09:23 PM)
Hello guys...nice to have this thread...
i owned a 8 years iswara LMST...my prob is during my driving, i can smell some exhaust smoke or petrol coming into the cabin...i have checked with workshops but they cant find any solution on this...am i the 1 who facing this problem?need ur advise guys...tq
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:21 AM

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i’d suggest that you measure your fc accurately (reset meter, fill to full tank, check on next full refill) before doing or tuning anything. rm50 is around 26liters before the price increase, and if you get 250km that’s close to 10km/l which is the average for this.

for the spring, perhaps you can try going back to stock springs and see. if it’s lowered it’s logical that you’ll get brighter oncoming lights. look for some in mudah or here, i’ve seen some people selling the used stock spring.

QUOTE(northernhero @ Sep 13 2013, 11:02 PM)
any petrol saving tips for 04 lmst manual?

my car can hardly drive 250km for rm50 before the 20 cents rise.

i've been told to tune my car but anyone know where can i do so around Ampang? And how much does it cost?

anyone used any fuel additive? and is it useful?
besides, how much is it to change my spring to stock or oem? (mine was lowered before)

I m facing some quite annoy problem since i start driving this car

Since this car is lowered, when i driving it at night, almost all other car's headlight opposite me feels like a spotlight to me and this problem get worst when i drive in a dark place.

Other than changing the spring, is there any other option to improve this condition?
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post Oct 8 2013, 08:04 PM

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thumbup.gif this

Please go get a second opinion, mine is well over 10 yrs old and still working. I would be suspicious of anyone telling me to change ALL parts, what kind of diagnosis is this???


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 8 2013, 02:46 PM)
consider second opinions

original air cond parts are that expensive. and usually they last the lifetime of the car if taken care well
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