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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V27, all the older sifus went MIA liao :(

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post Sep 25 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 25 2013, 12:13 PM)
ooo... interestin... i already taken out my front UR strut bar coz blockin my ngv system.. wondering this 3max able to fit or not...hmm..
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if it's already blocking, i don't think it'll be much different, but hey no harm asking/trying as no weld/drilling needed (but eh you already done it anyways from your previous UR, right? lol)
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post Sep 25 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Sep 25 2013, 12:40 PM)
or perhaps i should just install front strut bar instead.
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imho, installing what you do not have, over improving existing would yield more improvement smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 25 2013, 02:27 PM)
yup. d ngv isntaller install d pump gas nozzle on my welded plate...fuhh... somemore d stock air filter has increase its hieight roughly 2inch makin d bar not able to fit in...any1 has done it on iswara n got pic?i mean for 3max bar
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ok finally dug it out:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry62366757
user posted image

thanks to davidke20

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 25 2013, 03:10 PM
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_01 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:02 PM)
Looking for fast reply, I'm going to spend some money for this bar.. FSB and RSB so cheap meh.. Quazacolt did you have any link for the RSB, Iswara espically.. Thanks >_<
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few hundred also cheap meh? sweat.gif

all my bars are UR btw... no RSB because i got subwoofer, can't fit. i have rear upper bar so it does help despite the absence of the RSB.
Rear ARB is still the most important piece no matter what smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:38 PM)
Ayam not Ular Cacing saporkter, but trust me their side bars and room bar really guding. Driven 1 before, even with stock saspensen, the feeling of the car's togetherness is fantabulous notworthy.gif The bodyroll still horrible as any other stock Iswaga, but have so much confidence in attacking konar as can feel the rear wheel are following the front wheel track tightly. When speed at aroundabout that time I tell you , magahai the rear wheel will catch up the front wheel and start to squeel even if it's stock saspensen! Don't ask me, the owner decided to do all the chassis work before put down his cash on expansib saspensen sweat.gif
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lol i can make ad08r squeal on round about/genting downhill (after test driving sifu williamhoo awsm car)

the side bar is just thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
passing by road bumps however doh.gif shakehead.gif cry.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 25 2013, 10:53 PM)
coz i have no time..... sad.gif  sad.gif  now got ppl dig for me ad,i put now,lol...
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got labor fee for digging or not? laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 25 2013, 11:02 PM)
next tt we discuss it personally.... tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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bila? laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 25 2013, 11:20 PM)
u wanna join the orgy??? laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_01 @ Sep 25 2013, 11:40 PM)
Hahaha, not so cheap btw.. Just cheaper than UR, you are the person intro this 3 Max thing.. If it as good as the UR why not give a try..

P/S: Posted the diff comment trice, bad connection.....
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cheaper, no permanent effects.
definitely worth a try smile.gif

sadly i'm on UR and it left permanent effects so no turning back for my case sweat.gif
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post Sep 30 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Sep 29 2013, 08:52 PM)
Halo sifu. Can recommend any good brakes for iswara yr 2000? Suitable for naik bukit driv style haha. Got ka such thing

Oh n whats the price to change the odo meter? yg got show kilometre reading. N where can i find it? thanks prefer to buy it on9 smile.gifi
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got, definitely got so long you willing to pay.
for starters, can give a try on EBC ultimax (their basic OEM pads rm140-170 iinm).
then up 1 level, is EBC Greenstuff. slightly better heat/fade resist, better recovery, and biggest improvement is much more quieter/less dust. RRP over rm300
if you damn serious on touge/track runs AND you do not mind brake dust, can consider yellow stuff, which is a bit more expensive than green but the bite is insane. it's semi track/performance pads, bites on cold and bites VERY HARD (our car no ABS, so please brake with moderation ya sweat.gif )
that day was in thundergod_cid 's ride running on yellows, oh wow the bite's AWESOME thumbup.gif

as for odo meter, i changed mine, iinm was between 150-250 (been a while, can't remember)
ori brand new from proton part stockist - CK Wong at jln ipoh/segambut
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post Oct 1 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Sep 30 2013, 10:46 PM)
Thanks! The kimanis road to keningau in sabah is very steep, thats y need a good brake for the car smile.gif

EBC brakes? Cool. Gonna find it garage sale soon.haha thanks!
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green/yellow stuff is around/more than 5 times the price of your normal saga/iswara pads (rm50-70), however the performance... let's just say, touge (genting/sempah/karak and so on), track days, sudden hard stops whatever you throw at it, it's going to brake with absolute confidence thumbup.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 1 2013, 01:39 AM)
dont forget ur tyres are equally important
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yeap highly agree biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(caesarx @ Oct 3 2013, 02:16 PM)
If i want to use brembo disc brake + OEM brake pad, any advise? My current break system do not give enough force during downhill, especially when break before go over a bump.
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genting a? laugh.gif

keep OEM disc (TRW or brembo or even ori proton) will do
or IMP slotted + drill if you want better braking feel and don't mind faster pad wear/noise/additional brake dust

focus on the brake pads first.
make sure the fluids are fresh/proper bleeded as well.
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post Oct 3 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(caesarx @ Oct 3 2013, 04:40 PM)
My car only ever climb genting once early this year, and that time during down hill i already fill the braking force not that strong.
So i already change with OEM brake pad, but feel not much different, because i seldom do hard braking (slow driver  tongue.gif ), so the old pad still in good condition, after 6 years of my driving.

Last month change rear brake shoe because cannot tahan the old brake keep 'screaming' when apply few breaking after car move.

But the disc never change before, i feel vibration during normal braking.
I getting RM180 /set for brembo disc, so plan to change the disc.
Hope braking can improve.

Compare to Saga BLM, FLX, their brake feel more stopping power. Maybe because mine 15" rim?
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lol my previous pads 9months habis laugh.gif

for disc vibration, if never skim before, can consider that. of course check for minimum wear rate/tolerance/cracks if can.
do take note changing discs for our saga/iswara will require reinstalling the wheel bearings, and if you're doing it, might as well get new ones, and machine press them properly back in the rotors. and please don't hammer/bang it in, it'll damage the seals.

that is why if can avoid, don't change the disc smile.gif

i'm on 15" rim too and i can lock my wheels within a second if i wanna jam it. that's how powerful the brakes (on mostly stock standard) are smile.gif
so have to really balance it out between the brakes and tires.
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QUOTE(caesarx @ Oct 3 2013, 05:37 PM)
That why i feel uncomfortable when sitting in my colleague car who like to break when approaching very close to obstacle in front.

following ur advice, then I will check the current disc condition 1st, if still skimable, then can proceed, else change new set. biggrin.gif
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i tend to do that a lot, and i'm not even worried about the car in front, i'm more worried on the car behind me if he follows too close sweat.gif

for the disc, do check for runouts/cracks/defects as well smile.gif
may want to check the wheel calipers/caliper pins, servo/master pump, bad brake pad surface (can just grind/sand a bit and re-bed in again) etc as well since vibrations from braking can be of many reasons, not the disc alone.
and if you're really gonna change, do prepare the wheel bearings, more so if you haven't changed them in a very long time.
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QUOTE(caesarx @ Oct 3 2013, 07:09 PM)
Front wheel bearing the same as rear wheel? Just want to confirm to make order.
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iinm different. the rear wheel no need machine press, just put it in gently lol.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Oct 4 2013, 04:35 PM)
Thanks for the insight. I'm currently looking at one iswara 2006. 1 lady owner w/o modifications.
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don't know why people target lady owner cars. from my experience of buying a second hand car lady owner, and my own mom's car (2 of them in fact in which i inherited the iswara)

no. just f***ing no. i have to clean up their mess just because they think its fine to leave an mineral engine oil in the engine for a year as the mileage haven't reach 5k. or like wise replacing out of spec air cond system/parts, never flushing brake fluid, never flush radiator coolant...

and the list goes on. women, GENERALLY (obviously there are some exceptions, hell there are even some girls/woman that are active in motorsports) have this rule of thumb: so long the car can move, don't fix it. the concept of preventive/regular maintenance is almost non existent.

now for your issues:
generally as da best one mentioned (which for the most part, are CHEAP solutions, and its surprising how most people can't perform even low cost/cheap maintenance properly sad.gif ): hoses
any cracked/leaking/loose ones, replace them

spark plugs, cheap and cheerful, few ringgit. and don't forget to inspect the used spark plugs! then you can determine if your engine's running too lean/rich and can tune AFR without a dyno + wideband sensor

mountings are also cheap(even for original ones), and if they are broken, replace. no questions asked
of course, try to replace mountings AFTER you solved the other issues, so they do not deteriorate your new mountings faster than they should


to add on to dabestone:
i'll assume it is a carburetor engine ya? if so, check the idle rpm, both with/without air cond idling.
secondly, consider spending rm45 to perform carb cleaning

and more often than not, woman will neglect on replacing the car fluids/lubes such as engine/gearbox oil, replacing those may just solve most of your problems smile.gif
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Oct 4 2013, 10:56 PM)
Hey there. The mileage was around 66k. The vibration occurred quite violently when the AC is turned on during idling if I'm not mistaken. Minimal vibration when started driving. Well, the gearbox is an unofficial suspicion as it wasn't really smooth when shifting gears.  rclxub.gif
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just tune your idling smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2013, 05:39 AM

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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 5 2013, 12:37 AM)
anyone still have their front stock spring coil for sale?? looking for 1 front set.. sad.gif
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want my apm with amt coil spring buffer included? sell cip cip cuz i plan to keep the rear springs liao for track purposes tongue.gif
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QUOTE(achoi @ Oct 7 2013, 09:02 AM)
need help: price for a whole air cond system replacement or some parts? thanks.
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whole air cond system replacement with brand new original denso parts is around 2.2-2.4k including labor.

which part you want/need?

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