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TSgamestx
post May 18 2006, 09:48 AM, updated 20y ago

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Hello everyone, icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

Currently my company is sorting for antivirus solutions for all our company's PCs. Our main priority is to save cost so we are focusing more on open source solutions.. So, I've got a few questions in my mind, hope that all the kind people here can give me some opinions and thoughts. My questions are:

1) Are there any other open source antivirus out there beside Clam Av?

2) What's the pros of this Clam AV based on your experience?

3) What's the cons of this Clam AV based on your experience?

4) Can Clam AV cleans and remove all the viruses that it detects in the wild, cause I've heard some user claims that Clam AV can only scan for viruses but have not capability to remove them..is this true?

5) Can we schedule Clam AV to scan for viruses at a specific time and date?

6) Can we distribute the Clam AV virus definition update from one focker point to all the available clients?

Thanks you in advance..

Below are the official URL for Clam AV:
http://www.clamav.net/stable.php#pagestart
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post May 18 2006, 10:21 AM

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TSgamestx
post May 18 2006, 11:10 AM

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Oh.. sorry. post to the wrong section.. Thanks moderator HMMaster..
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post May 18 2006, 12:29 PM

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Well, i think u can use AVG!! It's totally free.

Hmm... i dono about that opensource antivirus. Ever heard before. But never use before tongue.gif
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post May 18 2006, 01:55 PM

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AVG...mmmm.. Thanks for the suggestion..

Can any Clam AV user please help... Thanks ..
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post May 18 2006, 03:59 PM

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doesnt hav real-time protection.....
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post May 18 2006, 04:12 PM

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i take it your company are using the windows OS.
instead of using Clam AV you can use Clam Win which is written in Python language and comes up with quite nice GUI. (it`s use Clam AV engine by the way)

Clam AV i thinks runs under cygwin enviroment (correct me if i`m wrong).
yeah it doesn`t have real time scanner.

but the good thing is you don`t need to install it to use it.




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post May 18 2006, 04:45 PM

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Thanks you all for the post.. I'll take all your opinions into consideration.
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post May 18 2006, 05:00 PM

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clamav is originally build for linux. The port to windows is not that good yet as it is still very new. I have not tested the windows version but I don't suggest you use it for production server or systems.

Under linux version, I have been using clamav for few years. I can tell you that it does get the job done for scanning emails but for realtime protection I don't think it's good enough. But heck it's free so I have no complain.

For windows based, it's better you spend a little money to get proper protection. Ask your boss, what is more important? Saving that little money or saving the systems from viruses that can potential destroy important data. Norton Antivirus 2005 OEM is only selling for RM45, that's very cheap.
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well it doesn`t have realtime scanner
but u could actually use crontab to update the antivirus let say 20 minutesx2 time?

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post May 19 2006, 01:06 PM

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Hmm, norton? i don't really like norton now. U can see less ppl use norton antivirus. Duno why. After i hav the NAV's virus, i switch to AVG. tongue.gif

Or using Mcafee. I got use that before.
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norton is not that bad. It is a little bit resource hog but in terms of performance and feature, but it is still a good software.

But it is definitely better than AVG (free version). For paid version, I am not sure if AVG is better because I have not tried paid AVG version.

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QUOTE(abubin @ May 19 2006, 06:06 PM)
norton is not that bad. It is a little bit resource hog but in terms of performance and feature, but it is still a good software.

But it is definitely better than AVG (free version). For paid version, I am not sure if AVG is better because I have not tried paid AVG version.
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Well, i don't prefer norton laiw. Since i got that norton virus. Sigh.. sweat.gif i uninstall norton antivirus to clear the virus/worm. Addition, if your pc is not that good, norton using lot of rams. AVG use less ram.

Anyway, back to the topic. Mcafee also not bad. Not that much ram be needed smile.gif
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Thanks everyone for the posts and suggestion... anyone ever try the clamwin antivirus?? Any comments and problems that you found out while using it??

Can we create a PC to distribute the virus definition to all the Clam AV clients?

Thanks in advance...


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Norton.. is really a resource hog.. and AVG license is for home user and personal use only.. so I think both of them are out of the pic. But thanks everyone for the suggestions..
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So if u want something free and legit for your company; Clamwin is for u without real time protection. Which one is better, ......ive seen comp with famous paid antivirus, spyware,firewall and lots of protection still got f*** up by those virus/adware/spyware and etc.
http://www.clamwin.com/
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YA!! thumbup.gif for sar!! i also dono why. For me, i using AVG about 2years. No such problem. It's depends on lucks and also your employee. Be more careful in net. Well, u cant consider AVG is for home user. As long as u are lucky and be careful, any antivirus can do the same trick.

Hmm.. i just out of curiousity. Since clamwin is without real time protection. AVG is real time protection. Why u say totally out of pic? I think clamwin kinda not good. No offensive tongue.gif
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clam av kenot detect rontokbro
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post May 22 2006, 11:13 AM

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gamestx,
1) open source not sure, but freeware got (ie, avg free, avast)
2) low memory footprint
3) can't heal/delete/remove virus
4) yes, i hv experience this
5) not sure, coz uninstall it oredi.
6) not sure
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post May 22 2006, 03:16 PM

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Thanks everyone for posting.. I need more opinions here.. My manager don't want to spend money on the antivirus... cause it will cost him a fortune..

So.. for those who have tried Clam AV before.. is this Clam AV resource friendly? Does it consume lots of processing power and does it takes a lot of your RAM resources?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(badutman @ May 22 2006, 11:13 AM)
gamestx,
1) open source not sure, but freeware got (ie, avg free, avast)
2) low memory footprint
3) can't heal/delete/remove virus
4) yes, i hv experience this
5) not sure, coz uninstall it oredi.
6) not sure
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What do you mean by it can't heal, delete and remove viruses?

Then what's the point of scanning in the first place. rclxub.gif
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post May 22 2006, 03:27 PM

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wah...what kind of company is that lah?!?! Want to be "legal" but don't want to spend money. The first thing you tell your manager, what you pay is what you get. Don't expect the "free" version of whatever antivirus you get will be as good as any paid version.

Then you can start trying clamwin or avg or other "free" antivirus.
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post May 22 2006, 07:22 PM

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since the boss don't 1 waste $$. Better get "free" antivirus, such as avg, avast... blah blah.. Just try it lo. Don't complain too much smile.gif Cheer
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antivirus software review smile.gif
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenre...ng=1&ttrkey=avg
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post May 24 2006, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ May 22 2006, 03:27 PM)
wah...what kind of company is that lah?!?! Want to be "legal" but don't want to spend money. The first thing you tell your manager, what you pay is what you get. Don't expect the "free" version of whatever antivirus you get will be as good as any paid version.

Then you can start trying clamwin or avg or other "free" antivirus.
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Well this is a private company, so they are always trying to save money whenever they can..Actually we've tested and research a lot of good antivirus solutions like Norton, Mc Affee, Bit Defender and Officescan.. but the problem is that they don't want to spend too much money for the licensing.. cause you have to renew the license every year. (*They = Refers to my management).

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QUOTE(allvin @ May 22 2006, 07:22 PM)
since the boss don't 1 waste $$. Better get "free" antivirus, such as avg, avast... blah blah.. Just try it lo. Don't complain too much smile.gif Cheer
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Thanks for the reply.. We've (our MIS Department) has been test running and researching numerous of antivirus solutions for almost half year already.. and we've found a few products that we think could perform the task very well and can simplify the tasks to monitor our network for viruses.

But the problem is that our management don't want to deploy any of those solutions cause they think that the licences are too expensive. For me I think that its worth investing in all those antivirus solutions. So now the management wants us to find some open source and free antivirus solutions..

But the problem is that most free antivirus solutions like avg, avat and antivir are mostly for home user license only. You can't use them in the corporate environment.

So Clamwin seems to be the only solution.. So.. Need to find out more about this clamwin from existing users.


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post May 24 2006, 09:43 AM

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Thanks everyone for the post.. Really appreciate it. Please post more about the Clam AV pros and cons.. Thanks in advance:

Best pros:
-Free to use.

Best cons:
-No active scan available.

Myth:
-It can clean and remove viruses by itself? (Need confirmation)..


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post May 24 2006, 02:26 PM

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I think clamwin also does not have administrative functions, right? In corporate environment, you definitely need to be able to deploy and manage the antivirus through a server or something. If you have like 50 pcs, it will be a nightmare to manage them if you need to go to each PC one by one.

How big is the company? Chinamen company?

You pay for what you get. They charge you yearly because they let you update antivirus pattern for the duration of the license. That is a lot of work and also takes up resources like server for updates and so on. Most of these antivirus programs have teams of people maintaining it. These people also need to work like you and me to earn a living.

What's wrong with this kind of stupid mentality. Some old 50 year old single women running the company? I am really pissed with this kind of people who doesn't understand the fundamental of software licensing. Tell me the name of the company and I will avoid this company at all cost.
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1) Are there any other open source antivirus out there beside Clam Av?

No


2) What's the pros of this Clam AV based on your experience?

Free , Open-Source , Works with Windows Server 2003. It can scan outgoing and incoming e-mails. Pretty good , if you run your own E-mail server. < Memory Footprint...biggrin.gif


3) What's the cons of this Clam AV based on your experience?

Windows does not detect it as Antivirus , the GUI is somewhat geeky...


4) Can Clam AV cleans and remove all the viruses that it detects in the wild, cause I've heard some user claims that Clam AV can only scan for viruses but have not capability to remove them..is this true?

Not sure about that...Some , it can remove , others it can't...50/50. But someone posted a patch that allows you to do that...Im not too sure about that


5) Can we schedule Clam AV to scan for viruses at a specific time and date?

Its possible

6) Can we distribute the Clam AV virus definition update from one focker point to all the available clients?

Should be possible..But again Im not sure. If you change the source , then it might be possible
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post May 26 2006, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ May 24 2006, 02:26 PM)
I think clamwin also does not have administrative functions, right? In corporate environment, you definitely need to be able to deploy and manage the antivirus through a server or something. If you have like 50 pcs, it will be a nightmare to manage them if you need to go to each PC one by one.

How big is the company? Chinamen company?

You pay for what you get. They charge you yearly because they let you update antivirus pattern for the duration of the license. That is a lot of work and also takes up resources like server for updates and so on. Most of these antivirus programs have teams of people maintaining it. These people also need to work like you and me to earn a living.

What's wrong with this kind of stupid mentality. Some old 50 year old single women running the company? I am really pissed with this kind of people who doesn't understand the fundamental of software licensing. Tell me the name of the company and I will avoid this company at all cost.
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Yes, you are right.. Clamwin does not have any administrative tools unlike other corporate antivirus suites. And I totally agree with you that it would be a nightmare to manage a huge network.. like ours .. we have approximately 200 units of computers. Currently we are not using any antivirus solutions. We just cleans a computer we suspect infected with viruses using a PC with Antivir Free antivirus solution installed. That's why our whole network is just like a virus pool which have lots of different variant of viruses laying dorment some on clients PCs and some on our servers. So out network would never be virus free. The same virus will keep continue to migrate from one workstation to another.. and we have no means to eliminate them all. Sad but true..

So.. due to the effect of some of the more severe viruses infrections.. our company decide to deploy antivirus solutions to all the workstations but after reviewing numerous corporate antivirus solutions features and prices.. they finally decided to opt for an open source solution which have not good solutions out there in the market.. So.. now they asked me to do some research on this Clamwin.. which... I don't think will work well in a corporate environment.

Yah.. I also understand the importance of software licensing .. and the dedication that programmers invest to create all those great retail antivirus suites.

Actually our company is quite huge and we have several offices across Sarawak. But regarding the name of the company.. its highly confidential.. so I can't disclose it here. Thanks for your post though. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(prasys @ May 26 2006, 10:02 AM)
1) Are there any other open source antivirus out there beside Clam Av?

No
2) What's the pros of this Clam AV based on your experience?

Free , Open-Source , Works with Windows Server 2003. It can scan outgoing and incoming e-mails. Pretty good , if you run your own E-mail server. < Memory Footprint...biggrin.gif
3) What's the cons of this Clam AV based on your experience?

Windows does not detect it as Antivirus , the GUI is somewhat geeky...
4) Can Clam AV cleans and remove all the viruses that it detects in the wild, cause I've heard some user claims that Clam AV can only scan for viruses but have not capability to remove them..is this true?

Not sure about that...Some , it can remove , others it can't...50/50. But someone posted a patch that allows you to do that...Im not too sure about that
5) Can we schedule Clam AV to scan for viruses at a specific time and date?

Its possible

6) Can we distribute the Clam AV virus definition update from one focker point to all the available clients?

Should be possible..But again Im not sure. If you change the source , then it might be possible
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Thanks a lot for clarifying some of the facts here from fiction. I've tested this Clamwin for some days now and I must admit that I'll like a summarized version of an antivirus.. Not must features available to customize and the detection rate still can't confirm.. Will try to test it more. Thanks a lot for posting. notworthy.gif
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So does anybody know any good forums that discuss about the codes or have any user created codes for this Clamwin.. Maybe we could find some extra features by adding additional codes to Clamwin.

So existing users of Clamwin please post the pros and cons and usage experience of Clamwin.. or rate it... All post are very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(gamestx @ May 18 2006, 09:48 AM)
Hello everyone,  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

Currently my company is sorting for antivirus solutions for all our company's PCs. Our main priority is to save cost so we are focusing more on open source solutions.. So, I've got a few questions in my mind, hope that all the kind people here can give me some opinions and thoughts. My questions are:

1) Are there any other open source antivirus out there beside Clam Av?
[COLOR=red]AVG & Avast, also look for kapersky labs

2) What's the pros of this Clam AV based on your experience?
[COLOR=red]Free(open source), have update, amond the best AV, popular, and this AV running in our firewall

3) What's the cons of this Clam AV based on your experience?
[COLOR=red]Still testing

4) Can Clam AV cleans and remove all the viruses that it detects in the wild, cause I've heard some user claims that Clam AV can only scan for viruses but have not capability to remove them..is this true?
[COLOR=red]Nops

5) Can we schedule Clam AV to scan for viruses at a specific time and date?

6) Can we distribute the Clam AV virus definition update from one focker point to all the available clients?

Thanks you in advance..

Below are the official URL for Clam AV:
http://www.clamav.net/stable.php#pagestart
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The popular one is AVG and Avast because Clam AV before just running in Linux platform. Clam AV is quite good anti virus but we not usually turn it on in our firewall. Better u using AVG, so easy to use but it's slow ur computer when scanning.
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You can contact Clam AV for more enquiries. Usually, they will answer you quickly coz wants to do biz tongue.gif

 

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