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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V134, CI step into 1800, are you happy?

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post Jul 31 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2013, 05:14 PM)
That's why I said again and again.
Cash in the pocket (dividend) is the most realistic one.
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Gold bugs will tell us physical gold in the safe is the most realistic one tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 31 2013, 08:11 PM)
keep accumulating "undervalued" stocks loh. and they still continue to be undervalued for dunno how long.  cry.gif
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undervalued like? blush.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 08:53 PM

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And just for the record...

Jan: 1627.55
Feb: 1,637.63 - up 10.08
March: 1,671.63 - up 34.00
Apr: 1,717.65 - up 46.02
May: 1,769.22 - up 52
June: 1773.54 - up 4.3
July: 1772.62 - DOWN 0.92

Looks like payback time.
June looked like a super bad month. Last couple days brought the index up. tongue.gif
July looked like a super good month. Last couple days brought the index back down. tongue.gif

Let me tell you again straight up.
You won't get rich or even smarter referring to them Ponnnnnnng Sway charts.

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post Jul 31 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jul 31 2013, 08:42 PM)
Thanks for sharing. Page 8 is good info.
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Still need to do own research and not fully rely on such info.

For example, on page 5, CIMB clearly stated

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"In summary, companies that will lose out from a weaker ringgit are those with:
1) high foreign debt , such as Tenaga, MISC and AirAsia


Why then on page 8, on Appendix 1, it only states AirAsia issue is 'fuel costs in US$'?

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IINM the bulk of AirAsia debts are in USD.


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post Jul 31 2013, 10:17 PM

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hello all sifus

need recommendation on technical analysis book, care to share some blush.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2013, 05:14 PM)
That's why I said again and again.
Cash in the pocket (dividend) is the most realistic one.

One can buy an undervalued stock that give zero dividend, it can forever undervalued, due to whatever reason.
Price no up, no dividend, what investors can do?
Just like can buy a house at Rm100K which is undervalued, but nobody want to rent, nobody want to buy higher than 100k, so everyday just can watch "undervalued".  tongue.gif
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we need to united and be investor activist tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 31 2013, 05:34 PM)
'4 x 5 days = 5 figures already?  notworthy.gif  shocking.gif
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Earned more than 50k in May. Lost about 20k in June. July should lose around 15k due to last week and today, no time to finalize calculations yet. So overall still okay I guess.
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 31 2013, 05:14 PM)
Earn DPU also not enough to cover back tongue.gif
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actually not so bad if hold them, if yield continue raising in coming years, worst case is after few years later, capital gain flat, but still already received dividend every year 4-6% pa.
key point is, if, yield continue increasing for next 5-10 years. hmm.gif

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post Jul 31 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 31 2013, 05:16 PM)
the undervalue stock u accumulate got dividend or not? mine got entitled already but gotta wait 1-2 months only receive payment
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got moderate dividend at 2-3%. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jul 31 2013, 08:53 PM)
undervalued like? blush.gif
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one of those is malton. sweat.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 31 2013, 11:04 PM)
actually not so bad if hold them, if yield continue raising in coming years, worst case is after few years later, capital gain flat, but still already received dividend every year 4-6% pa.
key point is, if, yield continue increasing for next 5-10 years.  hmm.gif
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have to see how fast the manger expanding with acquisition asset.
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jul 31 2013, 11:06 PM)
have to see how fast the manger expanding with acquisition asset.
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i am also expecting strategic retail malls rental income to raise in near future by organic growth. Midvalley is a good example, continues re-allocations and refurbishment. sweat.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 31 2013, 05:14 PM)
That's why I said again and again.
Cash in the pocket (dividend) is the most realistic one.

One can buy an undervalued stock that give zero dividend, it can forever undervalued, due to whatever reason.
Price no up, no dividend, what investors can do?
Just like can buy a house at Rm100K which is undervalued, but nobody want to rent, nobody want to buy higher than 100k, so everyday just can watch "undervalued".  tongue.gif
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This means the person who bought the house never did enough homework. House location good, price cheap. Looks undervalued, but nobody wants to rent and nobody willing to pay higher to buy from you. Meaning it's a haunted house la. Then he can change strategy, turn the haunted house into a tourist spot. Charge $$ for people to take walk in the house.


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:07 PM)
Still need to do own research and not fully rely on such info.

For example, on page 5, CIMB clearly stated
Why then on page 8, on Appendix 1, it only states AirAsia issue is 'fuel costs in US$'?

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IINM the bulk of AirAsia debts are in USD.
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I know. Have learnt my lesson with MEGB.
I have 4 stocks. Glad 2 of my stocks could benefit from the MYR depreciation and none of my stocks are on the negative impact in the list on page 8.

This post has been edited by simplesmile: Jul 31 2013, 11:49 PM
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post Aug 1 2013, 12:00 AM

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cimb downgrades presbhd. nice. thumbup.gif


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post Aug 1 2013, 08:33 AM

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hmm.gif No hints from Bernanke last night, today KLSE can rebound?
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Wow, the market so green... but CI seems like not recovering thou
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:12 AM

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what's today outlook? another -22?
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 1 2013, 01:00 AM)
cimb downgrades presbhd. nice.  thumbup.gif
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also high PE smile.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 1 2013, 12:05 AM)
one of those is malton.  sweat.gif
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almost double up from one year price ago, right?
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 1 2013, 08:33 AM)
hmm.gif No hints from Bernanke last night, today KLSE can rebound?
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I tot Ben mentioned that no changes to bond buying. Inflation target of 2% is a must, right?

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