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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V134, CI step into 1800, are you happy?

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post Jul 24 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 24 2013, 01:24 AM)
Maybank IB acts as stabilizer and bought Airasia X stocks. Then what? They will hold those stocks? Or they will sell back to the market later?  notworthy.gif
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later Maybank IB will call for option stock - maybe PUT Warrant since they have plenty on their hand....
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post Jul 24 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(bennike129 @ Jul 24 2013, 08:25 AM)
any thoughts on REITs?
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my curiosity until what extend the MGS interest rate will hike to what level, the reits will continue depress shocking.gif

I wonder how retail can purchase MGS to joy the ride? smile.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 24 2013, 09:58 AM)
?

This is IGBReit chart since listing.

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Is the chart going up? No.
Is the chart showing a stock whose price is continuing to fall? Yes
Is there any IMMEDIATE indication where the stock will stock falling? No
Comparing to historical chart, why is IGBReit interesting?

What is the indicative yield at current price?
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Morning Boon3,

here the yield.


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post Jul 24 2013, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 24 2013, 10:01 AM)
As a stabilizing manager, the fund to purchase comes from the IPO proceeds itself, so it is basically AAX buying back itself. No loss to the stabilizing manager as they are merely agents, AAX foots the bill, later all these shares goes back to treasury. laugh.gif
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Hi gark,

I thought the stabilizing mechanism using own IB $$$, not the $$$ from the IPO listing company?
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post Jul 24 2013, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 24 2013, 10:05 AM)
Thanks felix.

Is DPU of 6.38 sen an estimated figure?
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YES nod.gif from Prospectus
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post Jul 24 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 24 2013, 10:15 AM)
You must take note that IGBREIT is now paying out 100% of earnings, this in the future is not sustainable...later will revert back to 90+%
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Me eat first, think later what i eat...
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post Jul 24 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 24 2013, 01:46 PM)
got girlfriend/wife/children different story liao.... 'forced' to go shopping... sweat.gif
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nod.gif nod.gif Dont bring wife shopping sure WIFE/GF/Concubine/Mistress/Female moody Temperature not stable.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 24 2013, 01:55 PM)
Wah you so 'keng' got mistress and concubine also bring shopping ah....  laugh.gif Nanti kena' chop'.
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must treat them good, then only they serve well back.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 29 2013, 02:32 PM)
Today palm oil plunge a lot kah?
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post Jul 29 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 29 2013, 02:45 PM)
No wor.. only drop RM 9 from 2183 to 2174...

Probally someone panic now psychologically below 2200.

Time to pick some juicy plantations... laugh.gif especially those CPO cost below RM 1500 ones...  still got good margin, shake out all the weak players:hehe:

Probally this news kua...
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France will not discriminate palm oil products

the CPO shld go up hmm.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 29 2013, 02:52 PM)
They don't discriminate only they don't use it... whats the difference? These from the same people which raised the nutella tax.  rolleyes.gif

CPO need this plunge, too many people planting expecting green gold. Good to shake out the weaker players, and the the price bottom up and set it up nicely for a bull run later. Hope the price drop below RM 1,500 / ton.. a lot of people gonna give away their palm fruit for free.  brows.gif
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apa macam..you got give tips for plantation stock..also go down ??? like SOP
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 29 2013, 03:12 PM)
Sure go down ler.. all CPO go down, in short term all profit will get hit. But I see a longer picture on the maturing palm oil, which will translate to higher earning, but a couple years down the road.  tongue.gif

Not for the faint hearted...  laugh.gif
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is CPO continue still can go down ???
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM)
Probably.. it did so previously. Max down i think will be RM 1,600-1,800/ton, lower than that a lot of plantation will not want to harvest, and let the fruit rot on tree. When this happens like in 2008/2009 the bounce back is extremely fast.

Plantation companies are not all efficient, when the price is high all tom d*** and harry also can make money. Looking at yield/ha and OER, low cost producers total costs are about RM 1,200-1,500 /ton CPO. Medium Cost producers are RM 1,500-1,800/ton CPO. Higher cost producers are about RM 1,800-2,200/ton.

Trick is look for :-

1. Low average tree age of 5-8 years
2. Significant plantable reserves
3. Lowest EV per ha plantation
4. High yield per Ha (min 18 t/ha)
5. High OER (Min 20%)
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THANKS YOU VERY MUCH.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 30 2013, 04:27 PM)
fengsui chart said, we all go to hell 2 days later.  biggrin.gif
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go holland only...not HELL flex.gif like 2008/2009 Financial Crisis or 1997 Asean Crisis
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2013, 05:43 PM)
Fitch downgrades Malaysia outlook to “negative” from “stable ”
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BolehLand Bond need to hike cuupon rate hmm.gif
Reits supress again ???
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jul 30 2013, 06:01 PM)
meaning tomorrow will be HELL to the traders
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HOLLAND for reits ?
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2013, 06:00 PM)
Malaysia bonds hit 3.98 % today .  hmm.gif

10B RM bond matures tomorrow, with heavy FF outflow expected.

RM is getting hit. hard.
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hi sky 1809,


can you share which site you reference BolehLand BOND yield ?
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post Jul 30 2013, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 30 2013, 07:54 PM)
4% bond yield... as previously predicted. REIT have to yield 5.5% to compensate now... brows.gif
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any way retail can buy bond ?
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QUOTE(holybo @ Jul 30 2013, 08:33 PM)
buy bond fund instead?
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any suggestion ?
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post Jul 30 2013, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Jul 30 2013, 08:42 PM)
currently most of the bond fund got hit from the yield expansion. You might read research from fundsupermart?
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personally do you invest any bond fund at fundsupermart?

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