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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V134, CI step into 1800, are you happy?

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post Jul 23 2013, 08:45 PM

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1800, are you happy?
i more happy can check in #11. I like number. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 01:24 AM

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Maybank IB acts as stabilizer and bought Airasia X stocks. Then what? They will hold those stocks? Or they will sell back to the market later? notworthy.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Investors raised their longer-dated U.S. Treasuries holdings in the latest week after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke sought to reduce worries about rising interest rates, according to a survey released on Tuesday.

He added the Fed will likely hold short-term rates near zero for a long time even after it stops buying Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities.

J.P. Morgan surveys 40 to 60 of its Treasuries clients weekly, of which 60 percent are fund managers, 25 percent are speculative accounts and 15 percent are central banks and sovereign wealth funds.
It asks 10 to 20 of its active clients each week about their Treasuries holdings, of which 70 percent are speculative accounts and the rest are money managers.

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post Jul 24 2013, 04:22 PM

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Why people has no problem to trade healthcare sector at PE so high? It's like 50x is very much acceptable. Are they growing that fast? Really? And yield is not so attractive either. I don't see fast growing on KPJ, even IHH. Now Tropicana Medical Center. Not saying they are bad business, in fact they are very good business. But can they grow that much in next 3 years? Or the market is valuating their 10 years later scale? hmm.gif

http://nexttrade.blogspot.com/2013/07/tmcl...hcare-play.html
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post Jul 24 2013, 04:26 PM

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I just wanna say REITs are selling like hot cakes....then realize is it correct to say that for REIT's case? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 05:49 PM

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IGBReit should pay about 7 sen for entire year.
No acquisition in pipeline, so can only consider organic growth. The organic growth is to further utilize Midvalley space, ie. the top cinema floor, they are building 2nd floors on top of some shops. And of course, major growth for the next 3 years or so will come from Garden's rental revision. The traffic in Garden has increased substantially the recent year. This is the same as Pavilion 2-3 years ago, from tiny traffic into fast increasing.
Regarding parking issue, in fact, all top shopping malls in Malaysia suffers from this issue. 1U, Pyramid, Midvalley etc. Even fees as high as KLCC is not easy to find parking too. Wondering why is that so difficult to solve. Can't they simply add few more floors of parking in the building? shakehead.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Jul 24 2013, 03:37 PM)
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post Jul 25 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(sweetlemonande @ Jul 25 2013, 04:07 PM)
Coastal rebound, good sign?
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i hate that rebound. my buyback queue was at lower and almost hit yesterday lah. shakehead.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 25 2013, 04:28 PM)
sweat.gif i using itrade now, but facing frequent auto logout problem............
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are you using the new platform? i found it quite ok lately. hmm.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 04:45 PM

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some like it red. tongue.gif


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post Jul 26 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 26 2013, 05:11 PM)
I played a lot of short in FKLI before.
It is way more "risky" than long.

You may think it is easy to win by short in bear market, but once market turns time, one can be like "ant on the hot pan".

And we do not have any bear market for the last 3~4 years already, so basically (generally or average) most short in the market ended in loss for the last few years.

On average bear market is shorter than bull. 
So basically, it gives idea which side have better chance to win.

Short is good for those knowing what they are doing, what their strategy, and in specific period of time.

We have people find difficulty to win in ordinary buy and hold strategy, and want to profit through short is way harder than former.
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winners in stock market stays at 5% worldwide, i guess this rate may stay forever. The rest of 95% are always losers. This rate may only change if humanity changes tremendously, probably only possible if being attacked by aliens, and human rebuild the earth from scratch once again. laugh.gif

Even if one learn more "techniques" of any kind to try to win the market, the market will create other "new techniques" to fight with them. Simply because everyone wants to become winner, winners must kill losers in order to stay as winners. Therefore there is no sure-win technique exist. For instance, the TA machines in recent years. TA experts loss to them even by using another TA machines to fight. Hedge funds losing money is the fact in recent years.



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post Jul 26 2013, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 26 2013, 05:33 PM)
But stock market investment is not a zero-sum game. In bull market, there should be more winners.
Futures market is a zero-sum game...
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you are correct, it's not a zero-sum game.
however, by history, almost all stock market (by looking at their index) are on uptrend. But, in statistic, 95% are losers. Why? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Madbull @ Jul 26 2013, 06:06 PM)
AAX...free ticket if u buy IPO..better use $$$ to buy promo tic..cheaper... biggrin.gif
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finally, below IPO price. more to come? I wish to see 15% downwards. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 26 2013, 06:10 PM)
Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd IPO cancelled

Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd’s initial public offer has been cancelled, it was learnt on Friday.

The money collected from the successful applicants would be returned to the investors.
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Stop it before IPO, nice work this time, SC. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 26 2013, 06:14 PM)
Maybe someone "very influential" complain to SC thus canceling the IPO  smile.gif
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lets hope it's not. lets hope our dear SC is truly improving. sweat.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM)
Probably.. it did so previously. Max down i think will be RM 1,600-1,800/ton, lower than that a lot of plantation will not want to harvest, and let the fruit rot on tree. When this happens like in 2008/2009 the bounce back is extremely fast.

Plantation companies are not all efficient, when the price is high all tom d*** and harry also can make money. Looking at yield/ha and OER, low cost producers total costs are about RM 1,200-1,500 /ton CPO. Medium Cost producers are RM 1,500-1,800/ton CPO. Higher cost producers are about RM 1,800-2,200/ton.

Trick is look for :-

1. Low average tree age of 5-8 years
2. Significant plantable reserves
3. Lowest EV per ha plantation
4. High yield per Ha (min 18 t/ha)
5. High OER (Min 20%)
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so which is your top pick? tdm? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 05:06 PM

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my post-GE gain has almost back to flat. thanks to REITs. unsure.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 04:27 PM

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fengsui chart said, we all go to hell 2 days later. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jul 30 2013, 04:28 PM)
like this meh..... :S
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we can anti-fengshui also, see who more powerful. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jul 30 2013, 04:46 PM)
Err... that feng shui chart using lunar calendar vs Gregorian calendar? If lunar calendar, we still got 1 month bullish market.
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fengshui chart for stock market woh? how can use lunar. must be modern mah. tongue.gif

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