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post Jul 22 2013, 04:16 PM, updated 13y ago

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Source: The Malaysian Insider

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Four men who allegedly abducted and assaulted a youth before writing the words “Saya hina agama Islam” on his chest were charged with kidnapping at the Shah Alam magistrate's court today.

The four - Asri Mohamad Jamil, 22, Mohd Mazli Sazeli, 26, Zulkarnain Abdul Rahman, 29 and Agus Hariyanto Mahmod Hosen, 27, - were charged with commiting the offence at Restoran Muneer in Section 25, on July 15 at 4.30am.

No plea was recorded.

They were charged under Section 3 of the Kidnapping Act 1961, which carries the death penalty.

During proceedings, the suspects' lawyer told magistrate Nurul Shahida Zainal that his clients had complained of sustaining injuries during detention.

The magistrate then ordered two of the suspects to undergo medical examination.

As the four were led out of the court, two of them screamed "Allahuakhbar" several times while another accused was seen crying.

Their families were also very emotional.

It was reported that the youth, Ng Mun Tatt, 21, had said that he was abducted for money and that the words "Saya hina agama Islam" was a tactic by his assailants so that he would be beaten by the public if he tried to escape from them.

The photograph of Ng's chest was widely circulated on the internet.

Ng had said he was having drinks with his girlfriend, Rachel Leong, 16, and another friend at a shop when two men approached them.

He was dragged to a waiting car, and in the vehicle, Ng was allegedly beaten, blindfolded and taken to an apartment. - July 22, 2013

Also read:
Ng Mun Tatt: My abduction not connected to sex bloggers

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post Jul 22 2013, 04:23 PM

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death penalty..why some vroom do thing no use brain one
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post Jul 22 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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That is from a random blog which has never been verified by authorities.
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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where heard?
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ng mun tat really kesian kena troll
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wow.... until death also must maintain LCLY face.


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post Jul 22 2013, 04:25 PM

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This sets a very good precedent. It will let the rakyat know that the law enforcement agencies are impartial in the actions. Very good. Now lets go all the way to the death penalty to emphasize the point.
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Jul 22 2013, 04:25 PM)
wow.... until death also must maintain LCLY face.
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They are proud. Or they know they are immune?
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u fooking sure they will be charged death penalty? laugh.gif

C4 ppl pun belum death penalty

and those have *bright* future pun belum ada
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the front 2 so LCLY while back 2 macam dah insaf hmm.gif

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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Possible?

"katak bersama ngo mengadakan protest untuk membebaskan suspek suspek"
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:26 PM)
keyword detected!!!

now sure PERKASA gonna save them
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If alvivi case anything to go buy, these 4 is khalas
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:16 PM)
Source: The Malaysian Insider

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Four men who allegedly abducted and assaulted a youth before writing the words “Saya hina agama Islam” on his chest were charged with kidnapping at the Shah Alam magistrate's court today.

The four - Asri Mohamad Jamil, 22, Mohd Mazli Sazeli, 26, Zulkarnain Abdul Rahman, 29 and Agus Hariyanto Mahmod Hosen, 27, - were charged with commiting the offence at Restoran Muneer in Section 25, on July 15 at 4.30am.

No plea was recorded.

They were charged under Section 3 of the Kidnapping Act 1961, which carries the death penalty.

During proceedings, the suspects' lawyer told magistrate Nurul Shahida Zainal that his clients had complained of sustaining injuries during detention.

The magistrate then ordered two of the suspects to undergo medical examination.

As the four were led out of the court, two of them screamed "Allahuakhbar" several times while another accused was seen crying.

Their families were also very emotional.

It was reported that the youth, Ng Mun Tatt, 21, had said that he was abducted for money and that the words "Saya hina agama Islam" was a tactic by his assailants so that he would be beaten by the public if he tried to escape from them.

The photograph of Ng's chest was widely circulated on the internet.

Ng had said he was having drinks with his girlfriend, Rachel Leong, 16, and another friend at a shop when two men approached them.

He was dragged to a waiting car, and in the vehicle, Ng was allegedly beaten, blindfolded and taken to an apartment. - July 22, 2013

Also read:
Ng Mun Tatt: My abduction not connected to sex bloggers
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QUOTE(w3er @ Jul 22 2013, 04:27 PM)
C their face also know this bunch of useless good for nothing, typical kampung lazy pig....
muka macam b@b1.....wanna rob ppl
Lagi mau jerit allahuakhbar

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Soalan bonus: Handsome sangat ke muka kamu tu sampai muka dia pun kamu jadikan bahan cacian. Kalau betul handsome, sila buktikan.

Tak kisah la kalau nak kutuk their actions, because what they did was low and despicable Tapi kalau muka ko sendiri pun malau nak tunjuk, tak perlu la maki muka orang lain.

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They screamed the magic words when they leave the court. Confirm no punishment or only less than 2 years jail time.
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post Jul 22 2013, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Scribe @ Jul 22 2013, 04:33 PM)
They screamed the magic words when they leave the court. Confirm no punishment or only less than 2 years jail time.
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or just fine or imprisonment on probation? just guessing
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QUOTE(ps3 fanboy @ Jul 22 2013, 04:32 PM)
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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Sorry to say tat.. See the kidnapper face.. Look like pai kia or samseng.. And see the victim also knw he tak ada guli la..

Summore it is smart for thm use hina islam on cainis so they got supported to do such action..
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Buat benda bodo pastu laung "Allahuakbar".

Nik Aziz wouldn't be proud.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:23 PM)
Masa depan cerah lagi, takpe.
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looks the face already no bright future...looks cocky somemore
waiting for hang or life sentence
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
Possible?

"katak bersama ngo mengadakan protest untuk membebaskan suspek suspek"
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I sure katak ngo will come out quack quack
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Meles criminal laung "Allahuakbar".
Cinis laung Gong Xi Fa Chai?
Yindian pulak laung what???
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2013, 04:37 PM)
looks the face already no bright future...looks cocky somemore
waiting for hang or life sentence
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Ibrahim Ali will spesel recruit them to be honorary member of perkasa for what they did. And be a member of perkasa means you are now above law.
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QUOTE(SniperUnit @ Jul 22 2013, 04:38 PM)
Meles criminal laung "Allahuakbar".
Cinis laung Gong Xi Fa Chai?
Yindian pulak laung what???
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QUOTE(SniperUnit @ Jul 22 2013, 04:38 PM)
Meles criminal laung "Allahuakbar".
Cinis laung Gong Xi Fa Chai?
Yindian pulak laung what???
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Commit crimes then scream 'Allahuakhbar'? Terrorists when carrying out attacks also scream that. No wonder the image of Islam is severely tainted, what these people think by screaming that your crimes can all be automatically exonerated?
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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yes.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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Lolx.. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

How can a person do so many things.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 22 2013, 05:23 PM)
Masa depan cerah lagi, takpe.
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Wah. Long time no hear tis.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:39 PM)
Ibrahim Ali will spesel recruit them to be honorary member of perkasa for what they did. And be a member of perkasa means you are now above law.
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we'll see tongue.gif
since ibrahim ali already like no status already since no one give him a seat for GE
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This kind of wayang, I bet till the end sure no more further story one...

Drag the case, minimum news exposure, soon ppl will forget about it and those 4 idiots will be walking on the street like nobody business...


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2013, 04:42 PM)
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since ibrahim ali already like no status already since no one give him a seat for GE
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Yup, since after GE13, nooone gv a shit to him and his cohoots...
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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:16 PM)
Source: The Malaysian Insider

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fuh, expression like a bawse, more arrogant that alvivi.
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QUOTE(tamagato @ Jul 22 2013, 04:36 PM)
Sorry to say tat.. See the kidnapper face.. Look like pai kia or samseng.. And see the victim also knw he tak ada guli la..

Summore it is smart for thm use hina islam on cainis so they got supported to do such action..
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because they are assure that nothing will happen till the end...

lets see if they can still maintain the face if the death sentance is the final result...

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QUOTE(t3arsCulprit @ Jul 22 2013, 04:46 PM)
"Ren bu ke mao xiang"

How can you judge people by their appearance?
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Dont you see thy mcm tak insaf and he feel like thy do8ng the right thing..

If no action to thm i belif other will followed their action..



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QUOTE(ticke @ Jul 22 2013, 04:45 PM)
fuh, expression like a bawse, more arrogant that alvivi.
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Kecian the other two at the back.. doh.gif
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It is a pity to see some people supporting these kidnappers just because they belong to the same race/religion
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QUOTE(yusiang @ Jul 22 2013, 04:49 PM)
It is a pity to see some people supporting these kidnappers just because they belong to the same race/religion
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Thanks to the enforcement group that encourage them...

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Will they be sent to the same jail as Alvin?
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QUOTE(yusiang @ Jul 22 2013, 04:49 PM)
It is a pity to see some people supporting these kidnappers just because they belong to the same race/religion
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Usually charge like kidnap I don't think they can be bail, but under MALAYSIA BOLEH spirit, anything is possible...

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still can show the cocky face...well....this is msia...death ? not unless u r on their side
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 22 2013, 04:31 PM)
Soalan bonus: Handsome sangat ke muka kamu tu sampai muka dia pun kamu jadikan bahan cacian. Kalau betul handsome, sila buktikan.

Tak kisah la kalau nak kutuk their actions, because what they did was low and despicable Tapi kalau muka ko sendiri pun malau nak tunjuk, tak perlu la maki muka orang lain.

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Bukan nak caci muka dia, dah memang muka macam b@b1, so b@b1 lah .....
Perangai macam b@bi, muka pun otomatik macam b@b1 la, ngok...

Y? Butthurt ur own kind kena kutuk....??

So what now? Trying to be fair and honorable? Ptui!
Keep skin la!
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Hahahah pergi mampui la... All four go together...

Maybe a wake up call for kidnappers and criminals...
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QUOTE(hrevijay @ Jul 22 2013, 04:26 PM)
This sets a very good precedent. It will let the rakyat know that the law enforcement agencies are impartial in the actions. Very good. Now lets go all the way to the death penalty to emphasize the point.
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hmm.gif I smell someone being double standard over here.

But I agree, these 4 should receive maximum punishment and I hope the same level of liability can be imposed on the "related couple" as well...to emphasize the point and act as future deterrents. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(w3er @ Jul 22 2013, 04:58 PM)
Bukan nak caci muka dia, dah  memang muka macam b@b1, so b@b1 lah .....
Perangai macam b@bi, muka pun otomatik macam b@b1 la, ngok...

Y? Butthurt ur own kind kena kutuk....??

So what now? Trying to be fair and honorable? Ptui!
Keep skin la!
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i bet ur mum's face so wrinkly and ugly her children are born ugly.

can i say sumthing like that ar? dont simply accuse pipul of being bad judging on their appearance alone lah.
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Commit crimes then scream 'Allahuakhbar'? Terrorists when carrying out attacks also scream that. No wonder the image of Islam is severely tainted, what these people think by screaming that your crimes can all be automatically exonerated?
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They can scream so anywhere, everywhere after even doing the worst thing, and no other Muslims around them dare to whack them in the face for abusing such sacred phrase.


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i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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i heard ur mum ate pork for a living.

i got no proof.

jadi camna?

sorry lah if u are offended, but thats how other pipul feel when they are being accused of doing sumthing they didnt do
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It is a pity to see some people supporting these kidnappers just because they belong to the same race/religion
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U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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They can scream so anywhere, everywhere after even doing  the worst thing, and no other Muslims around them dare to whack them in the face for abusing such sacred phrase.
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why u simply make assumption?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jul 22 2013, 06:09 PM)
why u simply make assumption?
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why do wrong things liao still scream "Allahuakhbar"?
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i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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if post bak kut teh for muslim kena charged, do you think authorities will do nothing to a guy throwing a pig head into surau?
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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if you have to kidnap, beat up, send someone to jail just to "protect" your religion from being insulted, thats a whole lot of insecurity, stupidity and violence right there.
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why do wrong things liao still scream "Allahuakhbar"?
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must let the public know they are doing god's work liao. so they wont interfere/ glorify their doings

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C their face also know this bunch of useless good for nothing, typical kampung lazy pig....
muka macam b@b1.....wanna rob ppl
Lagi mau jerit allahuakhbar

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Four men who allegedly abducted and assaulted a youth before writing the words “Saya hina agama Islam” on his chest were charged with kidnapping at the Shah Alam magistrate's court today.

The four - Asri Mohamad Jamil, 22, Mohd Mazli Sazeli, 26, Zulkarnain Abdul Rahman, 29 and Agus Hariyanto Mahmod Hosen, 27, - were charged with commiting the offence at Restoran Muneer in Section 25, on July 15 at 4.30am.

No plea was recorded.

They were charged under Section 3 of the Kidnapping Act 1961, which carries the death penalty.

During proceedings, the suspects' lawyer told magistrate Nurul Shahida Zainal that his clients had complained of sustaining injuries during detention.

The magistrate then ordered two of the suspects to undergo medical examination.

As the four were led out of the court, two of them screamed "Allahuakhbar" several times while another accused was seen crying.

Their families were also very emotional.

It was reported that the youth, Ng Mun Tatt, 21, had said that he was abducted for money and that the words "Saya hina agama Islam" was a tactic by his assailants so that he would be beaten by the public if he tried to escape from them.

The photograph of Ng's chest was widely circulated on the internet.

Ng had said he was having drinks with his girlfriend, Rachel Leong, 16, and another friend at a shop when two men approached them.

He was dragged to a waiting car, and in the vehicle, Ng was allegedly beaten, blindfolded and taken to an apartment. - July 22, 2013

Also read:
Ng Mun Tatt: My abduction not connected to sex bloggers
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i hope after this case.. all crime rate will drop.. i suppose heavy punishment will scare the criminal away??
but if they were free.. i jump down from 14th floor



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i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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Nope, that was never substantiated or proven at all, even by PDRM...

And wasn't it revealed that the 4 actually made a ransom demand (and collected)...?
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if you have to kidnap, beat up, send someone to jail just to "protect" your religion from being insulted, thats a whole lot of insecurity, stupidity and violence right there.
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and on top of that, Naqiudin, u need to read the whole article to understand what its about...like for example, why he got kidnapped..

unless u wanna say those 4 ppl pray to money god....tuhan duit....



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U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these [b]ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam[cool.gif, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.

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i hope after this case.. all crime rate will drop.. i suppose heavy punishment will scare the criminal away??
but if they were free.. i jump down from 14th floor
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if what they have done to this extent and they still get away from it.

i will migrate from this country, like right away.
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i hope after this case.. all crime rate will drop.. i suppose heavy punishment will scare the criminal away??
but if they were free.. i jump down from 14th floor
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You forgot? Without EO, the police donno how to police. Most likely released due to technicality.
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They are proud. Or they know they are immune?
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this what worry me..
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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pi mati je la, biar di akhirat kena judge

masuk kubur dulu, selamat kubur takpe, ni kidnap sana kidnip sini, macam mana nak selamat? nak duit halal, cara tak halal nak buat camne? nak rezeki berkat, duk gatal bagi rasuah sana, mintak rasuah sini, apekehel? nak masuk syurga kunun, ni jiran rumah sebelah pon tak penah tegur sapa nk amik berat, what the hell??

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Jul 22 2013, 04:36 PM)
Buat benda bodo pastu laung "Allahuakbar".

Nik Aziz wouldn't be proud.
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I think any decent Muslim would be offended by them doing that, no?
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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laugh.gif...you need to beat people up because they insult your sky daddy? how old are you? five?
why does god need protection from and by mortal beings? rolleyes.gif
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It is a pity to see some people supporting these kidnappers just because they belong to the same race/religion
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this is what worry me..the most effective way to glorify crime...
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the death penalty is a deterrent

I hope some one will talk straight to any one of the prosecutor and judges of the implication if the ruling is anything less

setting precedent such as cases like this is crucial

so i hope the laws practitioner can upheld the justice
and justice is blind

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Will they be sent to the same jail as Alvin?
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the death penalty is a deterrent

I hope some one will talk straight to any one of the prosecutor and judges of the implication if the ruling is anything less

setting precedent such as cases like this is crucial

so i hope the laws practitioner can upheld the justice
and justice is blind
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In Malaysia, Kak Justice first checks to see whether you got political connections or not...

After that, she checks your race/religion to see if any political mileage can be gained either way or not...
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if you have to kidnap, beat up, send someone to jail just to "protect" your religion from being insulted, thats a whole lot of insecurity, stupidity and violence right there.
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Yes i do think what they do is stupid, and i do not support their act, what is was trying to say is , that i don see any "malay" support them just because they are malay, while the alvivi couple , baru kena jail tak boleh bails dah jadi raging issue.

QUOTE(Keith321 @ Jul 22 2013, 05:14 PM)
must let the public know they are doing god's work liao. so they wont interfere/ glorify their doings
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you see, here another vroom vroom engine starter, they are not doing god work, they maybe just shout the word out of the fun only, its like you describe them as some militan or something shakehead.gif
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Just waiting for someone to save them from death penalty & their punishment will not be as severe as alvin & vivien.
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100 bucks say they won't face death penalty and do 3 months only.
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jul 22 2013, 05:21 PM)
laugh.gif...you need to beat people up because they insult your sky daddy? how old are you? five?
why does god need protection from and by mortal beings? rolleyes.gif
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Pffft if someone insult ur mom , and you ill just agree with them ? Sure you will somehow want to protect also doh.gif
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look at the picture know they already brainwash already.. always use youngster to do the dirty jobs


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can we watch the death penalty? should be shown publicly
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cannot shown to public.. i show then how to cabut backdoor?

they may need to put dummy(doll) to be hang then cabut backdoor?
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:26 PM)
Yes i do think what they do is stupid, and i do not support their act, what is was trying to say is , that i don see any "malay" support them just because they are malay, while the alvivi couple , baru kena jail tak boleh bails dah jadi raging issue.
you see, here another vroom vroom engine starter, they are not doing god work, they maybe just shout the word out of the fun only, its like you describe them as some militan or something shakehead.gif
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Btw, I see many "people" support them and condemn the FB kid.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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LOL, your statement shows that you are exactly the ppl who support them. If everyone thinks that they have the "point" above the law to hurt someone else, we should just throw away the law and the constitution.
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:28 PM)
Pffft if someone insult ur mom , and you ill just agree with them ? Sure you will somehow want to protect also  doh.gif
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well
if you insult my mom
either my mom ignore it or ask me to defend her honour
as she is weaker

but the gods?
well shouldnt they be like all powerfull
and either immune to these sheet or have the ability to smite me where I stand for insulting him
why ask a weaker minion to do his own smiting?

anyway, the star reported that the igp said the abduction is related to the alvivi issue/posting

truth or spinning?


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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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if like this everyone can abuse it
kill people and say its protecting their religion
inb4 maleisia double standard la
only applicable for "INSERT RELIGION"
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 22 2013, 04:31 PM)
Soalan bonus: Handsome sangat ke muka kamu tu sampai muka dia pun kamu jadikan bahan cacian. Kalau betul handsome, sila buktikan.

Tak kisah la kalau nak kutuk their actions, because what they did was low and despicable Tapi kalau muka ko sendiri pun malau nak tunjuk, tak perlu la maki muka orang lain.

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Bukan nak caci muka dia, dah  memang muka macam b@b1, so b@b1 lah .....
Perangai macam b@bi, muka pun otomatik macam b@b1 la, ngok...

Y? Butthurt ur own kind kena kutuk....??

So what now? Trying to be fair and honorable? Ptui!
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Aku x kesian langsung kat dia. Aku cuma amused sebab gaya ko cakap rupa ko tu macamla hensem sangat.

Nak kutuk crime takpe la. Takyah la kutuk muka.
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Wow so if wanna critic someones food u gotta show your cooking first. Nice logic there thumbup.gif
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Yes. Nak kutuk cakap orang ni masak apa tak sedap you gotta show you can do better. Unless you are paying for it.

Anyway, dia kutuk rupa paras orang, instead of the crime he committed. So macam kalau orang buat nasi lemak tak sedap, container nasi lemak dia pergi kutuk.

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"wrongful restraint", "wrongful confinement" and "abduction" shall have the meanings assigned to them in sections 339, 340 and 362 respectively of the Penal Code [Act 574].

Abduction, wrongful restraint or wrongful confinement for ransom

3. (1) Whoever, with intent to hold any person for ransom, abducts or wrongfully confines or wrongfully restrains such person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be punished on conviction with death or imprisonment for life and shall, if he is not sentenced to death, also be liable to whipping.


wow..after googling a bit. they can really receive death punishment. but in this case i dont think so
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keyword detected!!!

now sure PERKASA gonna save them
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why must perkasa? isnt karpal singh is all justice but death penalty?

i am sure by principle he is the most likely to be the white knights for them .
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Wow so if wanna critic someones food u gotta show your cooking first. Nice logic there thumbup.gif
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implying insult and critics are the same thing.

nice logic there, moron. laugh.gif
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Pffft if someone insult ur mom , and you ill just agree with them ? Sure you will somehow want to protect also  doh.gif
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I don't need to agree but I don't need to act like a barbarian. laugh.gif
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I would say. don't ever cross the line. do not insult any religion. if u do. sure whats gonna happen to u.

simple thing. dont ever cross that line. u have ur own religion. take a good care of it. no need to throw pig at surau to prove u hate that religion.

people who made at that chinese dude. sure already aim that kid for a very long time. and i believe lots of people know about him also. yet no one take action. so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.
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I would say. don't ever cross the line. do not insult any religion. if u do. sure whats gonna happen to u.

simple thing. dont ever cross that line. u have ur own religion. take a good care of it. no need to throw pig at surau to prove u hate that religion.

people who made at that chinese dude. sure already aim that kid for a very long time. and i believe lots of people know about him also. yet no one take action. so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.
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u monday already brain damaged?

else why u accuse those 4 ppl of praying to money god?
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:10 PM)
I would say. don't ever cross the line. do not insult any religion. if u do. sure whats gonna happen to u.

simple thing. dont ever cross that line. u have ur own religion. take a good care of it. no need to throw pig at surau to prove u hate that religion.

people who made at that chinese dude. sure already aim that kid for a very long time. and i believe lots of people know about him also. yet no one take action. so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.
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so where's the proof that he threw pig into sacred place?
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I dun think they know Kidnapping Act 1961, which carries the death penalty
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kidnap the guy for money then blame him hina islam

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Haha, everyone is an innocent until proven guilty.

Want to hear stories from both sides. When is the date of trial?
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:10 PM)
I would say. don't ever cross the line. do not insult any religion. if u do. sure whats gonna happen to u.

simple thing. dont ever cross that line. u have ur own religion. take a good care of it. no need to throw pig at surau to prove u hate that religion.

people who made at that chinese dude. sure already aim that kid for a very long time. and i believe lots of people know about him also. yet no one take action. so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.
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unsubstantiated statement

see
before anything, some ppl in k already blaming the victim
making backdoor excuses here and there

black and white
if hantam hantam.. got its law
it caci this and that also got law
if kidnapping, got its law

charge ng mun tatt with sedition act akta this or that
but also charge the 4 sh!theads accordingly without prejudice
death penalty or life imprisonment


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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 06:11 PM)
u monday already brain damaged?

else why u accuse those 4 ppl of praying to money god?
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there's a thread about this before. his gf says that all of his belonging has been given to his gf before he been dragged to the vehicle. why give her his wallet and money while they can just carry him with his wallet?

find the old post. u'll see it.

p/s : no need to be so butthurt la lel
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no matter what the reason, a crime is a crime. x kisahla hensem ke, kaya ke. you kidnap some1, its punishable by death as 1 k/yard pointed. but laws can be bent with enough 'power'.
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:16 PM)
there's a thread about this before. his gf says that all of his belonging has been given to his gf before he been dragged to the vehicle. why give her his wallet and money while they can just carry him with his wallet?

find the old post. u'll see it.

p/s : no need to be so butthurt la lel
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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Example no of people trying to defend him.

QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:10 PM)
I would say. don't ever cross the line. do not insult any religion. if u do. sure whats gonna happen to u.

simple thing. dont ever cross that line. u have ur own religion. take a good care of it. no need to throw pig at surau to prove u hate that religion.
people who made at that chinese dude. sure already aim that kid for a very long time. and i believe lots of people know about him also. yet no one take action. so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.
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QUOTE(Naqiudin @ Jul 22 2013, 05:09 PM)
U sure got ppl support? All i see is hates towards them, you really like to vroom2 one arent you? While the alvivi case
I do see ppl support them even tho they terang2 buat salah, these ppl kidnap because the guy insult islam, ok even tho u not sure about it , still they got point about , its their act to protect their religion from being insulted.
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Even yourself.

You should know what happen to Alvivi case. Biggest proof that if someone insulted Islam, he/she will be hauled up.

Why would this Ng Mun Tat not be sued, charged or arrested if he did it?

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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:16 PM)
there's a thread about this before. his gf says that all of his belonging has been given to his gf before he been dragged to the vehicle. why give her his wallet and money while they can just carry him with his wallet?

find the old post. u'll see it.

p/s : no need to be so butthurt la lel
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ya sure..but why not u jst quote that tered's link? instead of barking up the wrong tree?

buthurt? how u know i buthurt? u get the same feeling too? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Jul 22 2013, 06:19 PM)
Example no of people trying to defend him.
Even yourself.

You should know what happen to Alvivi case. Biggest proof that if someone insulted Islam, he/she will be hauled up.

Why would this Ng Mun Tat not be sued, charged or arrested if he did it?
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:16 PM)
there's a thread about this before. his gf says that all of his belonging has been given to his gf before he been dragged to the vehicle. why give her his wallet and money while they can just carry him with his wallet?

find the old post. u'll see it.

p/s : no need to be so butthurt la lel
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well
all things change once they take him away and start asking for ransom
that sheet alone chane from a simple fight-fight, gab=ng bang
to a serious kidnapping offence


my guess is that
the charge stick, but life imprisonment
but release under the royal pardon
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Yes, there was a thread about this and those information, written in National Language, are from a blog. Those information are not verified nor confirmed by PDRM and media.
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devilspade, u mean this above? serious....?

i trusted u devilspade!! even asked for the link.....
i hope u can give me the link with sos....like PDRM or newspaper sos...
dont let me down ok..
dont disapoint me devilspade .....
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 06:19 PM)
ya sure..but why not u jst quote that tered's link? instead of barking up the wrong tree?

buthurt? how u know i buthurt? u get the same feeling too?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 22 2013, 05:55 PM)
implying insult and critics are the same thing.

nice logic there, moron. laugh.gif
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Wow didnt know to use an analogy u have to take it literally.

So lets say ppl say youre like an 4sshole**, it means only shit comes out from you? Like you dont ever do anything else except being an outlet for shit?

But wait, in your case its actually true

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hmm.gif I smell someone being double standard over here.

But I agree, these 4 should receive maximum punishment and I hope the same level of liability can be imposed on the "related couple" as well...to emphasize the point and act as future deterrents. thumbup.gif
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Oh please, don't give me that shit. indians, chinese, malays, i honestly don't give a damn...fry them all for i care.

Lets evaluate this situation logically. you ask for maximum punishment for alvivi. really ? that's 15 years. and for what ? publishing a photo online that might have ruffled a few feathers ? If that's how you think, that there is something really wrong with your head. At the most, what they have done is annoy a few people. Community service and maybe, a fine should suffice. On the other hand, this 4 mamats have kidnapped and violently beaten a man. Now if something had gone wrong that night, assuming he tried to jump out of the moving vehicle, he could very easily have died. So what they have done is unforgivable. These monsters most certainly deserve the maximum punishment. Lets not forget the fact that they had extorted money from him before letting him go. That basically is kidnap, assault and armed robbery. Death------ deservingly so !

I rest my case your honor

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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 06:21 PM)
why should i quote for u? go look for urself la. ur being rude because u butthurt or u originally rude like that ha?
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wow...
it like... devilspade is part of the conman team, he has been complain many time here and on other selling site
this fella have so many people complain thread still berani come here

then when you like where?? WHERE??!!!

i say "why should i quote for u? go look for urself la."

sheet man
weak ass discussion there.....doh.gif
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Cuba bayangkan , mengapa perlu 4 orang pemuda itu hendak menculik mamat tu semata-mata untuk dapat duit tebusan ? Mamat tu kerja dekat CC je pun .

So what triggers this young men to kidnap this chinese guy ? for fun ?
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Sigh. takde kerja nak kidnap org. -___-
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QUOTE(earthleader @ Jul 22 2013, 06:32 PM)
Cuba bayangkan , mengapa perlu 4 orang pemuda itu hendak menculik mamat tu semata-mata untuk dapat duit tebusan ? Mamat tu kerja dekat CC je pun .

So what triggers this young men to kidnap this chinese guy ? for fun ?
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Kidnapping someone under whatever pretext is always wrong.
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QUOTE(earthleader @ Jul 22 2013, 06:32 PM)
Cuba bayangkan , mengapa perlu 4 orang pemuda itu hendak menculik mamat tu semata-mata untuk dapat duit tebusan ? Mamat tu kerja dekat CC je pun .

So what triggers this young men to kidnap this chinese guy ? for fun ?
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seems like a normal statement
but stink high of biasness

doing something out of retaliation
or because you are provoked?

That only useful if the dude insults the 4 fella head on

by preparing and planning
shows intention and clear motives to commit a crime

so provoked argument is more or less useless in defending the 4 sh!theads
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Why they didnt kidnap victim girlfren instead?
Can you imagine people targetting adult male over weak girls or kids
And the victim is not even that rich
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Oh please, don't give me that shit. indians, chinese, malays, i honestly don't give a damn...fry them all for i care.

Lets evaluate this situation logically. you ask for maximum punishment for alvivi. really ? that's 15 years. and for what ? publishing a photo online that might have ruffled a few feathers ? If that's how you think, that there is something really wrong with your head. At the most, what they have done is annoy a few people. Community service and maybe, a fine should suffice. On the other hand, this 4 mamats have kidnapped and violently beaten a man. Now if something had gone wrong that night, assuming he tried to jump out of the moving vehicle, he could very easily have died. So what they have done is unforgivable. These monsters most certainly deserve the maximum punishment. Lets not forget the fact that they had extorted money from him before letting him go. That basically is kidnap, assault and armed robbery. Death------ deservingly so !

I rest my case your honor
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Ruffled a few feather perhaps, but what if something went wrong and instead of just ruffling those feathers, a tension broke out, Who knows right? Worst case scenarios though just assumptions should be treated equally thus both deserve maximum punishments.

Wait....why the f*** are you bringing this racial shit?

And no plea had been made, and dafuk you're resting your case? Since when a pre-trial statement becomes a fact? Both Alvivi and these boys still have the chance to prove otherwise.
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Why they didnt kidnap victim girlfren instead?
Can you imagine people targetting adult male over weak girls or kids
And the victim is not even that rich
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 22 2013, 06:24 PM)
Wow didnt know to use an analogy u have to take it literally.

So lets say ppl say youre like an 4sshole**, it means only shit comes out from you? Like you dont ever do anything else except being an outlet for shit?

But wait, in your case its actually true
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QUOTE(dupemaster @ Jul 22 2013, 06:42 PM)
Ruffled a few feather perhaps, but what if something went wrong and instead of just ruffling those feathers, a tension broke out, Who knows right? Worst case scenarios though just assumptions should be treated equally thus both deserve maximum punishments.

Wait....why the f*** are you bringing this racial shit?

And no plea had been made, and dafuk you're resting your case? Since when a pre-trial statement becomes a fact? Both Alvivi and these boys still have the chance to prove otherwise.
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Hey asswipe, aren't you the one who b****ed about double standards ?
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jul 22 2013, 08:41 PM)
Why they didnt kidnap victim girlfren instead?
Can you imagine people targetting adult male over weak girls or kids
And the victim is not even that rich
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You see his pic

He is more frail than the girl

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I dont think death penalty over 3000 ransom is appropriate
Sure they kidnap him, but do they threaten him at gun point?
From the other thread i read victim did something terrible enough to trigger/provoke suspect to resort for kidnapping
I believe mazidul akma have this kind of story in his blog
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I dont think death penalty over 3000 ransom is appropriate
Sure they kidnap him, but do they threaten him at gun point?
From the other thread i read victim did something terrible enough to trigger/provoke suspect to resort for kidnapping
I believe mazidul akma have this kind of story in his blog
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jul 22 2013, 06:53 PM)
I dont think death penalty over 3000 ransom is appropriate
Sure they kidnap him, but do they threaten him at gun point?
From the other thread i read victim did something terrible enough to trigger/provoke suspect to resort for kidnapping
I believe mazidul akma have this kind of story in his blog
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The law prescribes either death or life imprisonment.
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Hey asswipe, aren't you the one who b****ed about double standards ?
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Hey *******, I'm b****ing about the level of liability and out of a sudden you spewed that chinese, malay bla bla idgaf. You sure are one big *******. The IGP stated in his press statement that the kidnapping was related to those two, and the victim stated otherwise. Did the victim lie? Who knows?
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jul 22 2013, 06:53 PM)
I dont think death penalty over 3000 ransom is appropriate
Sure they kidnap him, but do they threaten him at gun point?
From the other thread i read victim did something terrible enough to trigger/provoke suspect to resort for kidnapping
I believe mazidul akma have this kind of story in his blog
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kidnap = death penalty

doesn't matter your ransom is 10billion or rm5




is like trafficking drug...500gram or 1 tont = death penalty
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http://www.mazidulakmal.com/2013/07/gempar...na-didakwa.html

I dont remember which sources ive read, but there are some blog mentioned that he threw pigs carcass to mosque and to some houses, this is taken from whataspp according to the blog
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Hey *******, I'm b****ing about the level of liability and out of a sudden you spewed that chinese, malay bla bla idgaf. You sure are one big *******. The IGP stated in his press statement that the kidnapping was related to those two, and the victim stated otherwise. Did the victim lie? Who knows?
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No idea wtf you're getting at. Anyways, you brought up double standards here. Obviously implying that it was a malay vs chinese thing. So don't me give the bullshit about level of liability. I don't give a fuq about who said what, the fact that they extorted money from the victim very clearly states the motive of the case. and it certainly had nothing to do with the alvivi case, merely a ploy to make their criminal act to be something that it is not.

I mean look at the jihadist in the middle east who blow themselves up in the name of religion. Now these people are the ones who are really driven by their beliefs. Now do you see them extorting money from their victims.

and chill, no need to get so pissed off.
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wow...
it like... devilspade is part of the conman team, he has been complain many time here and on other selling site
this fella have so many people complain thread still berani come here

then when you like where?? WHERE??!!!

i say "why should i quote for u? go look for urself la."

sheet man
weak ass discussion there.....doh.gif
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lol. why u have to be so lazy to look for it? and depend on others for that issue? use search tool la. u've been so slowpoke. now want to rely on others to give u the evidence just to sedapkan hati u? aiyak! doh.gif
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i know the information is not confirm just yet. but the funny thing is when people says he insulting the religion and got beat up because he did. and some say they just want to robbed him. and everyone go crazy over that.

to be honest both are wrong. both does criminal. the kidnapper and that boy. that boy insulting religion. and that kidnapper take his own action.

but as we know. we should not. insulting any religion. be that islam. buddha or any kind. respect each other religion. we live in malaysia with lots of different religion. why should people go crazy about it? simple! respect. and no one going to be crazy over it.

that kindnappers even scream 'Allahuakbar'? he obviously think he's doing it because of Allah. while he doesn't think that he should not take his own action by beating up that guy. lots of people think that they do the right thing while they do crime by thinking thats because HE THINK HE SHOULD DO IT. this kind of mentality are already been there in some people.

someone do bad thing > take his own action > think he's doing the right thing..

be political issue. racial issue. religion issue. stuff like this need a good guidance and open mind. otherwise...

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sounds very odd. doesn't it?
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Our member boyot has also posted a link earlier which clearly stated that this news is unverified.
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looks like a lot ppl here want to justify the kidnappers right to kidnap and beat the victim if he was indeed insult their religion..

insult religion/family = deserve to be kidnapped, beaten and asked for ransom?
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No idea wtf you're getting at. Anyways, you brought up double standards here. Obviously implying that it was a malay vs chinese thing. So don't me give the bullshit about level of liability. I don't give a fuq about who said what, the fact that they extorted money from the victim very clearly states the motive of the case. and it certainly had nothing to do with the alvivi case, merely a ploy to make their criminal act to be something that it is not.

I mean look at the jihadist in the middle east who blow themselves up in the name of religion. Now these people are the ones who are really driven by their beliefs. Now do you see them extorting money from their victims.

and chill, no need to get so pissed off.
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I dont think death penalty over 3000 ransom is appropriate
Sure they kidnap him, but do they threaten him at gun point?
From the other thread i read victim did something terrible enough to trigger/provoke suspect to resort for kidnapping
I believe mazidul akma have this kind of story in his blog
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A 22 years old young girl was taken away from her wedding by her ex-boyfriend and brought her to apartment where he raped her. After that he bring her to another apartment where 7 men take turn rape her. The next day they put her in a taxi, gave her RM350 and paid the taxi driver to sent her home.

Do you want to know what happened to the girl, her ex and the men who rape her?
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
are u sure only throw pig head?
i heard he smeared pig blood on masjid, release a dozens dogs on surau's padang and post bah kut teh promo advertisement paper on some mosque wall.

not to miss out, he don a piglet uniform and do a macarena dance on puasa month in between 2 femes mosque...
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A 22 years old young girl was taken away from her wedding by her ex-boyfriend and brought her to apartment where he raped her. After that he bring her to another apartment where 7 men take turn rape her. The next day they put her in a taxi, gave her RM350 and paid the taxi driver to sent her home.

Do you want to know what happened to the girl, her ex and the men who rape her?
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if he insult the Islam he should be stoned! We are a religion of peace! Dont mess with us.
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At first i was shocked they are getting death sentence. As i looked onto their face, i think they really deserving it. Damn LCLY
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jul 22 2013, 07:02 PM)
http://www.mazidulakmal.com/2013/07/gempar...na-didakwa.html

I dont remember which sources ive read, but there are some blog mentioned that he threw pigs carcass to mosque and to some houses, this is taken from whataspp according to the blog
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
i know the information is not confirm just yet. but the funny thing is when people says he insulting the religion and got beat up because he did. and some say they just want to robbed him. and everyone go crazy over that.

to be honest both are wrong. both does criminal. the kidnapper and that boy. that boy insulting religion. and that kidnapper take his own action.

but as we know. we should not. insulting any religion. be that islam. buddha or any kind. respect each other religion. we live in malaysia with lots of different religion. why should people go crazy about it? simple! respect. and no one going to be crazy over it.

that kindnappers even scream 'Allahuakbar'? he obviously think he's doing it because of Allah. while he doesn't think that he should not take his own action by beating up that guy. lots of people think that they do the right thing while they do crime by thinking thats because HE THINK HE SHOULD DO IT. this kind of mentality are already been there in some people.

someone do bad thing > take his own action > think he's doing the right thing..

be political issue. racial issue. religion issue. stuff like this need a good guidance and open mind. otherwise...

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Source: The Malaysian Insider

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Four men who allegedly abducted and assaulted a youth before writing the words “Saya hina agama Islam” on his chest were charged with kidnapping at the Shah Alam magistrate's court today.

The four - Asri Mohamad Jamil, 22, Mohd Mazli Sazeli, 26, Zulkarnain Abdul Rahman, 29 and Agus Hariyanto Mahmod Hosen, 27, - were charged with commiting the offence at Restoran Muneer in Section 25, on July 15 at 4.30am.

No plea was recorded.

They were charged under Section 3 of the Kidnapping Act 1961, which carries the death penalty.

During proceedings, the suspects' lawyer told magistrate Nurul Shahida Zainal that his clients had complained of sustaining injuries during detention.

The magistrate then ordered two of the suspects to undergo medical examination.

As the four were led out of the court, two of them screamed "Allahuakhbar" several times while another accused was seen crying.

Their families were also very emotional.

It was reported that the youth, Ng Mun Tatt, 21, had said that he was abducted for money and that the words "Saya hina agama Islam" was a tactic by his assailants so that he would be beaten by the public if he tried to escape from them.

The photograph of Ng's chest was widely circulated on the internet.

Ng had said he was having drinks with his girlfriend, Rachel Leong, 16, and another friend at a shop when two men approached them.

He was dragged to a waiting car, and in the vehicle, Ng was allegedly beaten, blindfolded and taken to an apartment. - July 22, 2013

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We will see the result

I'm sure most agree that kidnap/extortion/assault should be more serious than pornography/incitement?


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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
i know the information is not confirm just yet. but the funny thing is when people says he insulting the religion and got beat up because he did. and some say they just want to robbed him. and everyone go crazy over that.

to be honest both are wrong. both does criminal. the kidnapper and that boy. that boy insulting religion. and that kidnapper take his own action.

but as we know. we should not. insulting any religion. be that islam. buddha or any kind. respect each other religion. we live in malaysia with lots of different religion. why should people go crazy about it? simple! respect. and no one going to be crazy over it.

that kindnappers even scream 'Allahuakbar'? he obviously think he's doing it because of Allah. while he doesn't think that he should not take his own action by beating up that guy. lots of people think that they do the right thing while they do crime by thinking thats because HE THINK HE SHOULD DO IT. this kind of mentality are already been there in some people.

someone do bad thing > take his own action > think he's doing the right thing..

be political issue. racial issue. religion issue. stuff like this need a good guidance and open mind. otherwise...

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Insulting religion is wrong true, hence the punishment on alvivi.

But this guy was kidnapped because kidnappers wanted money, not because he insulted islam because he didn't.

It's really not that complicated.
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Shouting "Allahuakhbar" will have any effect to them?
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Shouting "Allahuakhbar" will have any effect to them?
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doesnt matter. matter is they did it or not

like u steal money to save ppl but still stealing
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jul 22 2013, 07:02 PM)
http://www.mazidulakmal.com/2013/07/gempar...na-didakwa.html

I dont remember which sources ive read, but there are some blog mentioned that he threw pigs carcass to mosque and to some houses, this is taken from whataspp according to the blog
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1. Rob / rape / murder
2. If caught, accuse the victim of insulting his religion
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4. Profit (get out of jail free)
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Which part of asking for ransom is defending their religion a part of?
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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 22 2013, 04:22 PM)
i heard ppl say this ng mun tatt go throw pig head at surau that provoke this guys.
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Impossibruuuu a child can get a pig's head. doh.gif
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jul 22 2013, 08:11 PM)
doesnt matter. matter is they did it or not

like u steal money to save ppl but still stealing
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Who noes, shouting that will give them lighter sentences. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shinnsohai @ Jul 22 2013, 06:36 PM)
if like this everyone can abuse it
kill people and say its protecting their religion
inb4 maleisia double standard la
only applicable for "INSERT RELIGION"
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That is not true, these 4 mundu breeders if tried with Shariah law will be punished with 'qisas' section severely because they have breached second pillar of Shariah law which is protection of life from injuries, harm and death.


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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jul 22 2013, 08:15 PM)
Who noes, shouting that will give them lighter sentences.  laugh.gif
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I think I experienced before, the word is shouted towards you when they (not all) are very unhappy with your kind. Not sure what is the meaning actually, it became a trend globally, before crashing into tower in 9/11, before shooting soldiers in Fort Hood, mother of Boston bombers when heard her sons might be executed, they all shouted that.
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Apa lagi straight to jail la.
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QUOTE(rivost @ Jul 22 2013, 08:22 PM)
I think I experienced before, the word is shouted towards you when they (not all) are very unhappy with your kind. Not sure what is the meaning actually, it became a trend globally, before crashing into tower in 9/11, before shooting soldiers in Fort Hood, mother of Boston bombers when heard her sons might be executed, they all shouted that.
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That word is getting mainstream.

IMHO, the word "Allahuakhbar" is tainted by these monkeys who self proclaim they represent god.

Dunno meaning but shout as if it will help.

MEH. doh.gif
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QUOTE(rivost @ Jul 22 2013, 08:22 PM)
I think I experienced before, the word is shouted towards you when they (not all) are very unhappy with your kind. Not sure what is the meaning actually, it became a trend globally, before crashing into tower in 9/11, before shooting soldiers in Fort Hood, mother of Boston bombers when heard her sons might be executed, they all shouted that.
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its the cry of terrorist worldwide. "the word"...click....booommm!

QUOTE(shaqmunak @ Jul 22 2013, 08:23 PM)
Apa lagi straight to jail la.
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they will be granted the low bail of rm 1k each. meanwhile alvivi are denied bail.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jul 22 2013, 03:15 PM)
Who noes, shouting that will give them lighter sentences.  laugh.gif
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lighter their emotion i guess. dun wanna vroom but they stupid if kidnappers.

kidnapper try to hide their identify as much as possible.
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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
i know the information is not confirm just yet. but the funny thing is when people says he insulting the religion and got beat up because he did. and some say they just want to robbed him. and everyone go crazy over that.

to be honest both are wrong. both does criminal. the kidnapper and that boy. that boy insulting religion. and that kidnapper take his own action.

but as we know. we should not. insulting any religion. be that islam. buddha or any kind. respect each other religion. we live in malaysia with lots of different religion. why should people go crazy about it? simple! respect. and no one going to be crazy over it.

that kindnappers even scream 'Allahuakbar'? he obviously think he's doing it because of Allah. while he doesn't think that he should not take his own action by beating up that guy. lots of people think that they do the right thing while they do crime by thinking thats because HE THINK HE SHOULD DO IT. this kind of mentality are already been there in some people.

someone do bad thing > take his own action > think he's doing the right thing..

be political issue. racial issue. religion issue. stuff like this need a good guidance and open mind. otherwise...

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 22 2013, 07:18 PM)
looks like a lot ppl here want to justify the kidnappers right to kidnap and beat the victim if he was indeed insult their religion..

insult religion/family = deserve to be kidnapped, beaten and asked for ransom?
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 07:19 PM)
Suddenly become vroom vroom tered lolx

And i support them for beating the ahbeng  tongue.gif
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whatever the accused crime is , must be tried with evidence and sentenced accordingly.
insult religion? show the proof in court.
kidnapping and assault? show the proof in court.
the judge will decide whether guilty or not.


QUOTE(ChaoGuGu @ Jul 22 2013, 07:49 PM)
At first i was shocked they are getting death sentence. As i looked onto their face, i think they really deserving it. Damn LCLY
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who the hell tell u they getting death sentence ?

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good, pariah people like them should die. Sampah masyarakat.
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Crime or any circumstantial act that leads up to the current crime isn't applicable to the sentencing.
Doesn't mitigate anything.

Even if Ng killed their parents and soil their bodies with shits, they're still gonna be hung if the sentence goes through.
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Shouting "Allahuakhbar" will have any effect to them?
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the first report of an incident, is always the truth.

subsequent report will undergo more filtering to suit the masses. its always been like that.


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QUOTE(devilspade @ Jul 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
i know the information is not confirm just yet. but the funny thing is when people says he insulting the religion and got beat up because he did. and some say they just want to robbed him. and everyone go crazy over that.

to be honest both are wrong. both does criminal. the kidnapper and that boy. that boy insulting religion. and that kidnapper take his own action.

but as we know. we should not. insulting any religion. be that islam. buddha or any kind. respect each other religion. we live in malaysia with lots of different religion. why should people go crazy about it? simple! respect. and no one going to be crazy over it.

that kindnappers even scream 'Allahuakbar'? he obviously think he's doing it because of Allah. while he doesn't think that he should not take his own action by beating up that guy. lots of people think that they do the right thing while they do crime by thinking thats because HE THINK HE SHOULD DO IT. this kind of mentality are already been there in some people.

someone do bad thing > take his own action > think he's doing the right thing..

be political issue. racial issue. religion issue. stuff like this need a good guidance and open mind. otherwise...

shakehead.gif
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tl;dr

summary: the kidnappers memang retarded sbb kidnapping = death sentence in malaysia, whether dorang buat demi agama ke, bangsa ke, sbb girlfriend ke, etc.

dah tahu dkt malaysia ni ada akta hasutan (or the new akta keharmonian nasional), let the pulis do the job. nak berlagak jadi hero konon, padahal apa yg dorang buat ni mencemarkan lagi nama agama.
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Last I remember anything from blog is the truth and anything from mainstream media is fabricated, lies etc no?
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Last I remember anything from blog is the truth and anything from mainstream media is fabricated, lies etc no?
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Cuba bayangkan , mengapa perlu 4 orang pemuda itu hendak menculik mamat tu semata-mata untuk dapat duit tebusan ? Mamat tu kerja dekat CC je pun .

So what triggers this young men to kidnap this chinese guy ? for fun ?
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I don't understand why people always look at the victim. Oh kenapa kena rogol, mesti pakai seksi. Oh kenapa kena tumbuk, mesti kena provoke. doh.gif please look at the facts, u think someone known to thrown pigs at surau won't get caught and charged ?
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jul 22 2013, 09:38 PM)
I don't understand why people always look at the victim. Oh kenapa kena rogol, mesti pakai seksi. Oh kenapa kena tumbuk, mesti kena provoke. doh.gif please look at the facts, u think someone known to thrown pigs at surau won't get caught and charged ?
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Wait till one of the persons close to you is a victim of crime. if your GF kena rompak or r***ed, will you ask her, "So why you kena? Everything happens for a reason.".
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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:45 PM)
Because everything happen for a reason bro.
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Because everything happen for a reason bro.
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dah tahu kidnappers tu bodoh, obviously u dont need a good reason to do such stupid act.
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ok now

so its time to hail the ahbeng as hero?
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ok now

so its time to hail the ahbeng as hero?
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:51 PM)
no one is hailing the ahbeng as the hero.
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so kesian the ahbeng right?
didnt do anything wrong kena kidnap and beated sad.gif
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If he did throw the pig into surau , why the police want to cover that up? Shouldn't he be charged like the others? Police protecting him? Lol
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jul 22 2013, 09:53 PM)
If he did throw the pig into surau , why the police want to cover that up? Shouldn't he be charged like the others? Police protecting him? Lol
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i think its time to hail the ahbeng

he single handed send 4 to gallows flex.gif
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so kesian the ahbeng right?
didnt do anything wrong kena kidnap and beated  sad.gif
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its all up to the court lor to decide whether or not the ahbeng did anything wrong, becoz as of now there's no clear explanation as to what the ahbeng did to provoke these retards.

sesetengah blog harom pandai2 nak lapor ahbeng baling kepala babi dkt masjid.

lel
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
i think its time to hail the ahbeng

he single handed send 4 to gallows  flex.gif
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why are u so insist to 'hail' the ahbeng?

x payah nak main low class sarcasm ko tu.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
its all up to the court lor to decide whether or not the ahbeng did anything wrong, becoz as of now there's no clear explanation as to what the ahbeng did to provoke these retards.

sesetengah blog harom pandai2 nak lapor ahbeng baling kepala babi dkt masjid.

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so...any idea what did the ahbeng do?

some funny comment on facebook or uploaded some insensitive photo?

or those guys suka2 kidnap and beat him w/out taking anything from him..except his dignity
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they probably can't identify the dna found on Ng Mun Tat anus hence the 4 are not guilty
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:55 PM)
why are u so insist to 'hail' the ahbeng?

x payah nak main low class sarcasm ko tu.
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 04:54 PM)
i think its time to hail the ahbeng

he single handed send 4 to gallows  flex.gif
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Not confirmed yet, that is the maximum punishment possible.

Stranger things have happened in Malaysia. Sex with under 14 years old girl is considered statutory rape, mandatory punishment.
But then somehow can case withdrawn with the guy marrying the girl. Only in malaysia can mandatory laws be circumvented.

Same with "bright future" case.

So I wouldn't be holding my breath just yet.
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 09:55 PM)
so...any idea what did the ahbeng do?

some funny comment on facebook or uploaded some insensitive photo?

or those guys suka2 kidnap and beat him w/out taking anything from him..except his dignity
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if there's no clear explanation or proof, buat ape nak speculate benda2 bodoh mcm ni?

speculation bertukar jadi fitnah.

fitnah tu dosa
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:57 PM)
if there's no clear explanation or proof, buat ape nak speculate benda2 bodoh mcm ni?

speculation bertukar jadi fitnah.

fitnah tu dosa
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u see the photo of the ahbeng with the markings or not u retard shit?
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u see the photo of the ahbeng with the markings or not u retard shit?
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doh.gif...a photo by the perpetrator is legit now?
QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
its all up to the court lor to decide whether or not the ahbeng did anything wrong, becoz as of now there's no clear explanation as to what the ahbeng did to provoke these retards.

sesetengah blog harom pandai2 nak lapor ahbeng baling kepala babi dkt masjid.

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whatever he did. it won't relate to this case, those people have no rights taking the law into their own hands.

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u see the photo of the ahbeng with the markings or not u retard shit?
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Must be someone photoshop his face and replace with alvin face.

Must be ...
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jul 22 2013, 09:59 PM)
doh.gif...a photo by the perpetrator is legit now?
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u see the photo of the ahbeng with the markings or not u retard shit?
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ko ni memang retard kan.

ko yg insist nak tahu what did the ahbeng did to provoke the 4 fellas, but as of now, there's no statement made by mainstream media or from the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

so ahbeng tu ada markings 'hina islam', so we can terus speculate yg dia baling kepala babi dkt masjid, mcm tu eh?

'speculation' = fitnah.

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:01 PM)
ko ni memang retard kan.

ko yg insist nak tahu what did the ahbeng did to provoke the 4 fellas, but as of now, there's no statement made by mainstream media or from the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

so ahbeng tu ada markings 'hina islam', so we can terus speculate yg dia baling kepala babi dkt masjid, mcm tu eh?

'speculation' = fitnah.

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Alvivi in jail, these four also in jail. Nice la, can make video 'sahur' in jail together.

Now waiting for the two Indians who cut doc's thumb to join in.

1Malaysia.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jul 22 2013, 10:02 PM)
Alvivi in jail, these four also in jail. Nice la, can make video 'sahur' in jail together.

Now waiting for the two Indians who cut doc's thumb to join in.

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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 10:02 PM)
u go check did i say anything about kepala insert??  wub.gif
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u insist to know what did the ahbeng do,

i said, there's no media statement made by the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

shady blogs harom fitnah and speculate here and there that the ahbeng threw a pig's head into a mosque's compound.

which is why i advice u not to speculate anything until the police made official statements regarding the matter lah.



and yet you bark here and there kononnya nak hail the ahbeng (obviously it was a fail sarcasm), for what?

pfft low tier k retard
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Did u guys read the news ? The mother in law have to bank in and the abductors took the money. The writing was so that he wouldn't run away? I bet some people wont believe even after they show their transaction history
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jul 22 2013, 10:06 PM)
Did u guys read the news ? The mother in law have to bank in and the abductors took the money. The writing was so that he wouldn't run away? I bet some people wont believe even after they show their transaction history
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if that's the case the 4 are in deep ammoshaf already cos it's already into the level of kidnap and ransom
but then again the judge might simply says that the anus has mixture of 4 dna hence can't identify whether it belongs to them, oh wai....this is not rape and murder case, sowee
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:06 PM)
u insist to know what did the ahbeng do,

i said, there's no media statement made by the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

shady blogs harom fitnah and speculate here and there that the ahbeng threw a pig's head into a mosque's compound.

which is why i advice u not to speculate anything until the police made official statements regarding the matter lah.
and yet you bark here and there kononnya nak hail the ahbeng (obviously it was a fail sarcasm), for what?

pfft low tier k retard
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:06 PM)
u insist to know what did the ahbeng do,

i said, there's no media statement made by the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

shady blogs harom fitnah and speculate here and there that the ahbeng threw a pig's head into a mosque's compound.

which is why i advice u not to speculate anything until the police made official statements regarding the matter lah.
and yet you bark here and there kononnya nak hail the ahbeng (obviously it was a fail sarcasm), for what?

pfft low tier k retard
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so what i got to do with those blog haram fitnah?

what i mean (maybe hard to comprehend since your iq is slightly below 70) u only blame those 4 as well as for now without know the real story wub.gif
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Because everything happen for a reason bro.
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jul 22 2013, 10:06 PM)
Did u guys read the news ? The mother in law have to bank in and the abductors took the money. The writing was so that he wouldn't run away? I bet some people wont believe even after they show their transaction history
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oh..so its for ransom...just let those guy rot in prison then smile.gif
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 07:54 AM)
i think its time to hail the ahbeng

he single handed send 4 to gallows  flex.gif
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the 4 guys send themselves to the gallows. victim blaming much?

oh well. anyways, death sentence is just so archaic. what is this? the 1800s??


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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jul 22 2013, 10:13 PM)
the 4 guys send themselves to the gallows. victim blaming much?

oh well. anyways, death sentence is just so archaic. what is this? the 1800s??
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just knew (sos from here) that they did it for ransom money

their fault,, let there be death!
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just knew (sos from here) that they did it for ransom money

their fault,, let there be death!
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what they did the kidnap for is another matter.

but what we know is they did kidnap Ng. :/

even if they were provoked,insulted or whatever hurt their tiny minuscule childish feelings in no way is that a valid reason to kidnap and physically hurt another person.

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Meles criminal laung "Allahuakbar".
Cinis laung Gong Xi Fa Chai?
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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:45 PM)
Because everything happen for a reason bro.
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Everything happen for a reason. If throw pig head into a mosque also got a reason one.

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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 10:10 PM)
so what i got to do with those blog haram fitnah?

what i mean (maybe hard to comprehend since your iq is slightly below 70) u only blame those 4 as well as for now without know the real story  wub.gif
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because u want to speculate things. the blog is just an example of speculation/fitnah that is against any teaching of Islam.

why do u want to put a blame onto something that is unconfirmed? like i said, wait for the police media statement, only then u can bash whoever u want however u like whenever u want.

as of right now, the focus is onto those 4 retarded kidnappers because the media has revealed who are these kidnappers and because kidnapping can put u to life sentence.

paham tak, retard? yawn.gif haha, betul tu, iq aku sgt inferior dgn ko. ko ni sgt bijak kan? mesti dah dpt phd.
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jul 22 2013, 10:17 PM)
what they did the kidnap for is another matter.

but what we know is they did kidnap Ng. :/

even if they were provoked,insulted or whatever hurt their tiny minuscule childish feelings in no way is that a valid reason to kidnap and physically hurt another person.

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Oh please, don't give me that shit. indians, chinese, malays, i honestly don't give a damn...fry them all for i care.

Lets evaluate this situation logically. you ask for maximum punishment for alvivi. really ? that's 15 years. and for what ? publishing a photo online that might have ruffled a few feathers ? If that's how you think, that there is something really wrong with your head. At the most, what they have done is annoy a few people. Community service and maybe, a fine should suffice. On the other hand, this 4 mamats have kidnapped and violently beaten a man. Now if something had gone wrong that night, assuming he tried to jump out of the moving vehicle, he could very easily have died. So what they have done is unforgivable. These monsters most certainly deserve the maximum punishment. Lets not forget the fact that they had extorted money from him before letting him go. That basically is kidnap, assault and armed robbery. Death------ deservingly so !

I rest my case your honor
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In Malaysia, when come to any case so called "related to <insert religion>" will automatically considered similar as physically and mentally hurt to them.
If debate about logic with them, they will just shove you that no logic can be applicable when come to "feel insulted to their religion and god".
Therefore, Feeling hurt > Physically hurt.

Those argument brought by certain ppl in Alvivi case has reminded me about fapping to someone's picture would also consider as physically rape to that particular person whom you fap to.
So, all those fappers should treated as rapist criminal and can be sentence to jail with >99999+ strokes.

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just knew (sos from here) that they did it for ransom money

their fault,, let there be death!
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here the new from the star
believe it or not up to you
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:19 PM)
because u want to speculate things. the blog is just an example of speculation/fitnah that is against any teaching of Islam.

why do u want to put a blame onto something that is unconfirmed? like i said, wait for the police media statement, only then u can bash whoever u want however u like whenever u want.

as of right now, the focus is onto those 4 retarded kidnappers because the media has revealed who are these kidnappers and because kidnapping can put u to life sentence.

paham tak, retard?  yawn.gif haha, betul tu, iq aku sgt inferior dgn ko. ko ni sgt bijak kan? mesti dah dpt phd.
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someone just said they did it for ransom money, and since my IQ is higher than yours so i rest my case

no need phd to argue with u, stpm also suffice ady drool.gif


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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 10:24 PM)
someone just said they did it for ransom money, and since my IQ is higher than yours so i rest my case

no need phd to argue with u, stpm also suffice ady  drool.gif
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they did it for ransom money

if so, then why were u so insisting to shoot the ahbeng? becoz got makings 'hina Islam' issit? laugh.gif

haha, dont claim urself a stpm student lah if common sense pun tak ade.
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QUOTE(YKayz @ Jul 22 2013, 10:23 PM)
In Malaysia, when come to any case so called "related to <insert religion>" will automatically considered similar as physically and mentally hurt to them.
If debate about logic with them, they will just shove you that no logic can be applicable when come to "feel insulted to their religion and god".
Therefore, Feeling hurt > Physically hurt.

Those argument brought by certain ppl in Alvivi case has reminded me about fapping to someone's picture would also consider as physically rape to that particular person whom you fap to.
So, all those fappers should treated as rapist criminal and can be sentence to jail with >99999+ strokes.
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True story.

Actually it is fine if the same rules apply to them. Unfortunately that's not the case here.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:28 PM)
they did it for ransom money

if so, then why were u so insisting to shoot the ahbeng? becoz got makings 'hina Islam' issit?  laugh.gif

haha, dont claim urself a stpm student lah if common sense pun tak ade.
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shoot the ahbeng??did is say that? lel u having a serious comprehension problem whistling.gif

seriously no need stpm, pmr will do justice with your level nod.gif
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 10:33 PM)
shoot the ahbeng??did is say that? lel u having a serious comprehension problem  whistling.gif

seriously no need stpm, pmr will do justice with your level  nod.gif
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
i think its time to hail the ahbeng

he single handed send 4 to gallows  flex.gif
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lol, go hail the ah beng lah. what are u waiting for? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:36 PM)
lol, go hail the ah beng lah. what are u waiting for?  laugh.gif
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Did u guys read the news ? The mother in law have to bank in and the abductors took the money. The writing was so that he wouldn't run away? I bet some people wont believe even after they show their transaction history
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If this case find that this four people indeed was using this tactic as a cover up on their kidnapping and ransom activity and get away with it I think up coming months the police would have few thousand such case as all robbers are now converting into using this tactic instead.
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u monday already brain damaged?

else why u accuse those 4 ppl of praying to money god?
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dude, eyes damage is it? pls go and google the news from some reliable sources like the star or bernama, not some bullShit blog spot ok? pdrm declared that the four indeed asked for ransom~
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 09:07 PM)
tl;dr

summary: the kidnappers memang retarded sbb kidnapping = death sentence in malaysia, whether dorang buat demi agama ke, bangsa ke, sbb girlfriend ke, etc.

dah tahu dkt malaysia ni ada akta hasutan (or the new akta keharmonian nasional), let the pulis do the job. nak berlagak jadi hero konon, padahal apa yg dorang buat ni mencemarkan lagi nama agama.
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death penalty seems a bit too much sweat.gif

anyway they should insaflah to reduce their punishments.
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QUOTE(wong6516 @ Jul 23 2013, 12:15 AM)
dude, eyes damage is it? pls go and google the news from some reliable sources like the star or bernama, not some bullShit blog spot ok? pdrm declared that the four indeed asked for ransom~
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http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013...-abduction.aspx

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QUOTE(wong6516 @ Jul 23 2013, 12:15 AM)
dude, eyes damage is it? pls go and google the news from some reliable sources like the star or bernama, not some bullShit blog spot ok? pdrm declared that the four indeed asked for ransom~
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lol..u didnt get what i was trying to convey...re-read again why i say praying to money god...

here..lemme requote what i wrote earlier to reply to devilspade something..

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so this angry muslims choose to take their own action and think this is the good way to let him know not to insult other religion.


it is because of money he was kidnapped. and the writing on his body is only a tactic...so they kidnap him for money..if not worship money..then worship wat?




and for those that believe on the writings...if i wrote a note that says, 'budak ni hina agama xxx' and paste on ur back...then confirmed u hina agama d? lol...budak karang..mentality memang 1.35"...

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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jul 22 2013, 10:10 PM)
so what i got to do with those blog haram fitnah?

what i mean (maybe hard to comprehend since your iq is slightly below 70) u only blame those 4 as well as for now without know the real story  wub.gif
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Is it confirmed that those 4 kidnap the ah beng and bit him up??

Do you mean Police is not sure those 4 is the kidnapper? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jul 22 2013, 10:01 PM)
ko ni memang retard kan.

ko yg insist nak tahu what did the ahbeng did to provoke the 4 fellas, but as of now, there's no statement made by mainstream media or from the police that explains what did the ahbeng do.

so ahbeng tu ada markings 'hina islam', so we can terus speculate yg dia baling kepala babi dkt masjid, mcm tu eh?

'speculation' = fitnah.

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I saw many blogs discussing the news..

Any many of them say that those 4 people drive Alphard, why would they want to kidnap people and asking for a mere RM 3k ransom..
And 4 persons, 3k mana cukup makan.. Not even worth to kidnap a people..

So what do you say? laugh.gif
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When I first saw the “Halal Bak Kut Teh” picture on The Real Singapore Facebook page, I was irritated but I didn’t think much of it. I believed the guy was an idiot and that’s it. But I was surprised that the backlash has gotten so big over just a few hours.

I was disappointed to see so much hate comments being posted by fellow Muslims over this one photo and some even go far as to post threats of violence and death threats. And now, the couple is facing up to 15 years in jail and heavy fines over this one photo, which really saddens me as thieves and people with assault charges usually get much less.

Why am I not offended? I actually have a different perspective on the issue. I subscribed to a few foreign news channels like Al Jazeera and The Young Turks and I have seen the faces of REAL HATE.

I have seen people like Pastor Terry Jones, who called for the burning of the Quran. I have seen a group of Islamophobic Americans gather to throw hateful slurs at a mosque event in California. I have seen the absolute disrespect of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and his blasphemous film which he called “The innocence of muslims”. I have seen the bigotry and also the sympathy of the people of Texas in ABC news experiment “What would you do?” when Muslims are discriminated. I have seen a Hispanic woman pushing a Muslim man onto an oncoming train, killing him, just because he was Muslim. And the worst of late, I have seen the genocide of the Muslim Rohingya people by the so called “Buddhist” Burmese.

The face of hate comes in many sickening form. But when I see Alvin’s face, I don’t see a hateful person; I just see the face of a troll.

Understanding hate and dark humor.

Maybe it is because of my age and my exposure to the internet, I understand dark humor and some can be really funny. I am a fan of South Park with their highly intelligent yet crude but funny jokes and satires. But in the end, dark humor is essentially a joke that can either be funny or fall flat and just be stupid.

I would say that Alvin’s Halal Bak Kut Teh photo is just a piece of really bad dark humor that is not funny. There is no real malice in this photo. He did not insult our prophet, he did not call for the Quran to be defaced and he did not go out to injure a fellow Muslim. At most I could say that he is insensitive for suggesting that a dish most commonly made with pork is halal.

We are getting into an uproar over FOOD? Let’s change the situation a bit and say Alvin did the same photo BUT with frog legs (which is also haram). How much of an uproar will that make?

Being respected. As Muslims, we always ask that our religion be respected. But it would be hard to respect someone if he acts like an overly sensitive baby who would throw a tantrum over such a small issue. We need to be mature. If you find the photo insensitive, feel free to make a video or make an article to address how insensitive the post is or simply bring this matter to facebook admin let them handle it. To issue threats of violence, instigate suicide and even death threats over a food related matter is simply unacceptable.

Justice. Quoting from the Holy Quran 2:190

“Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.”


The concept is simple, if you are called to defend our faith, do so without transgression. If you are threatened with words, you are to fight back with words ONLY. If you are threatened with fists, you are to fight back with fists at most. If you are threatened with a sword, you may fight back with a sword.

What Alvin did does not warrant jail time for up to 15 years or even such a heavy fine. Prison is a place where we keep thieves, robbers, rapists and murderers, people who have committed crimes against property and person. To treat Alvin, whose crime is bad humor, like a harden criminal is indeed transgressing the limit. At most, all he deserves is a small fine and mandatory community work (maybe at a mosque so he could learn a thing or two about being with Muslims).

In all, we must keep things in perspective in issuing justice so that our emotion doesn’t cloud our reason. We should not turn an issue about food into something that could divide a nation and we must act more maturely if we want to be respected. – The Real Singapore

This post has been edited by Clement1001: Jul 23 2013, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 23 2013, 04:34 PM)
http://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/48462/
Young Singaporean Muslim

When I first saw the “Halal Bak Kut Teh” picture on The Real Singapore Facebook page, I was irritated but I didn’t think much of it. I believed the guy was an idiot and that’s it. But I was surprised that the backlash has gotten so big over just a few hours.

I was disappointed to see so much hate comments being posted by fellow Muslims over this one photo and some even go far as to post threats of violence and death threats. And now, the couple is facing up to 15 years in jail and heavy fines over this one photo, which really saddens me as thieves and people with assault charges usually get much less.

Why am I not offended? I actually have a different perspective on the issue. I subscribed to a few foreign news channels like Al Jazeera and The Young Turks and I have seen the faces of REAL HATE.

I have seen people like Pastor Terry Jones, who called for the burning of the Quran. I have seen a group of Islamophobic Americans gather to throw hateful slurs at a mosque event in California. I have seen the absolute disrespect of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and his blasphemous film which he called “The innocence of muslims”. I have seen the bigotry and also the sympathy of the people of Texas in ABC news experiment “What would you do?” when Muslims are discriminated. I have seen a Hispanic woman pushing a Muslim man onto an oncoming train, killing him, just because he was Muslim. And the worst of late, I have seen the genocide of the Muslim Rohingya people by the so called “Buddhist” Burmese.

The face of hate comes in many sickening form. But when I see Alvin’s face, I don’t see a hateful person; I just see the face of a troll.

Understanding hate and dark humor.

Maybe it is because of my age and my exposure to the internet, I understand dark humor and some can be really funny. I am a fan of South Park with their highly intelligent yet crude but funny jokes and satires. But in the end, dark humor is essentially a joke that can either be funny or fall flat and just be stupid.

I would say that Alvin’s Halal Bak Kut Teh photo is just a piece of really bad dark humor that is not funny. There is no real malice in this photo. He did not insult our prophet, he did not call for the Quran to be defaced and he did not go out to injure a fellow Muslim. At most I could say that he is insensitive for suggesting that a dish most commonly made with pork is halal.

We are getting into an uproar over FOOD? Let’s change the situation a bit and say Alvin did the same photo BUT with frog legs (which is also haram). How much of an uproar will that make?

Being respected. As Muslims, we always ask that our religion be respected. But it would be hard to respect someone if he acts like an overly sensitive baby who would throw a tantrum over such a small issue. We need to be mature. If you find the photo insensitive, feel free to make a video or make an article to address how insensitive the post is or simply bring this matter to facebook admin let them handle it. To issue threats of violence, instigate suicide and even death threats over a food related matter is simply unacceptable.

Justice. Quoting from the Holy Quran 2:190

“Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.”

The concept is simple, if you are called to defend our faith, do so without transgression. If you are threatened with words, you are to fight back with words ONLY. If you are threatened with fists, you are to fight back with fists at most. If you are threatened with a sword, you may fight back with a sword.

What Alvin did does not warrant jail time for up to 15 years or even such a heavy fine. Prison is a place where we keep thieves, robbers, rapists and murderers, people who have committed crimes against property and person. To treat Alvin, whose crime is bad humor, like a harden criminal is indeed transgressing the limit. At most, all he deserves is a small fine and mandatory community work (maybe at a mosque so he could learn a thing or two about being with Muslims).

In all, we must keep things in perspective in issuing justice so that our emotion doesn’t cloud our reason. We should not turn an issue about food into something that could divide a nation and we must act more maturely if we want to be respected. – The Real Singapore
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post Jul 23 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(dupemaster @ Jul 23 2013, 04:37 PM)
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Does other human Malays reads different Quran, if yes than i agree with the invalid !

The person who write the article are trying to promote tolerance and compromise towards other human beings, rather than hate and anger, which nowdays our young ones seems to act, due to easily give in with their polluted minds !
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 23 2013, 04:52 PM)
Does other human Malays reads different Quran, if yes than i agree with the invalid !

The person who write the article are trying to promote tolerance and compromise towards other human beings, rather than hate and anger, which nowdays our young ones seems to act, due to easily give in with their polluted minds !
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Zainah Anwar read the "Yellow Book" instead, and someone I knew, Siti Kasim don't read at all..literally. laugh.gif
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isn't ng mun tatt was the guy who always get bullied in stephen chow's movie?
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Dare to commit crime.
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If I use a marker pen to write "I am god" on my body, I bet many dumb-dumbs will believe it too.
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konon religion person , use religion as excuse to kidnap and ask ransom
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y this re...always create problem wannnn
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QUOTE(wong6516 @ Jul 23 2013, 02:59 PM)
Try reading some other sources other than those that's 'sanctioned' by our government.
Star's the most blatant source of disinformation. I've stop reading it at my early 20s. I buy it occasionally on sundays just to read calvin and hobbes, that's it.
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Anyone have update of this case?

or the accuse already free in the name of omg?
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user posted image

but..
user posted image
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i guess the very bangga they fought for their religion.

thats how isis form.

and doing everything against their religion teaching

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inb4 PERKASA recruitment ? eh?
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QUOTE(SniperUnit @ Jul 22 2013, 04:26 PM)
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Same here.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 06:14 PM

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see their face they also know they will get released liao

what's the court for anyway, waste of public money like that
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Anyone have update of this case?

or the accuse already free in the name of omg?
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Case will drag for a few years.

Later all sudah lupa, close case due to insufficient evidence etc etc.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 11 2014, 06:13 PM)
Same here..  biggrin.gif
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dude.. u were quoting a post from a year ago.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(SniperUnit @ Jul 22 2013, 04:26 PM)
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da hell necro last year tered?
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QUOTE(lauyah @ Sep 11 2014, 06:47 PM)
dude.. u were quoting a post from a year ago.. doh.gif
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these guys come out of jail will straight masuk umno pemuda
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post Sep 11 2014, 07:00 PM

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Kasik gantung je la

Tengok muka tu..insaf sikit pun tarak
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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Sep 11 2014, 07:00 PM)
Kasik gantung je la

Tengok muka tu..insaf sikit pun tarak
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With that face as a malay I say no prob see these ppl hanged lol...
If they really really really did it for religion then they go to heaven..win win thumbup.gif

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