malas reply liao.

He got serious Dunning-Kruger effect symptom also known as Jayraptor-Kyheng effect.

I think, usually manufacturers' original setting is more pessimistic to cover the reliability in very harsh condition (tested in dessert or antarctic area), that some people got the ecu re-mapped to get better fuel consumption (maybe ignition timing earlier/air-fuel ratio to lean,... ), what ever car it is. Maybe some tuner is crap, but it should not be all.

FYI those people who design performance parts and stuff always override the manufacturer design... they dont need to know what manufacturer design as the basics law is there. BTW all the cars is mod by human....

AMG TRD or bla bla bla mod is still at minimal where it still can be improved!

Okay lets say about tuning.... do you understand OEM tuning and Custom tuning? Do you think OEM tuning is safe?

Stock car is powerful or optimum power? well my 1981 saga can even tapao ur car in reverse gear....

Mod has no limit.... the thing that limit u is your brain

not just that, stock/original manufacturer's oem parts, piping and etc are build and design to meet the strict emission control set by this global agencies, so call the environment friendly rules. and car manufacturers design and build the engine and everything to meet various aspects such as production cost, emission like i said, fuel quality in different region, NVH, comfort and etc. hence, there are reasons why aftermarket parts exist. for example the stock exhaust, piping is smaller, with cat-con, with extra large restrictive muffler and midbox to meet the NVH and emission standard. it doesnt mean larger piping and free flowing exhaust is bad, its just more noisy, less comfort and not environment friendly. if according to that idiot who keep saying oem parts are god. we do not need this forum anymore to discuss modification. just drive stock car like those uncles. everything that is engineered in this world be it cars, phones, electronics devices and etc, in stock/original condition, we engineers always have to ensure that there is some room for error in its design efficiency or capabilities. so meaning put a car for example, the engines in stock form are design in a way it is less power and etc for room for error like worse fuel quality in other countries. that is why u hear ppl say re-tune the ECU gain power and torque, its not gaining, you are just tuning the engine to perform what it is capable to do with our better fuel quality in this region. if u have more basic mods like free flowing exhaust and better air intake than stock, u even gain more. as simple as that. you gain power and torque thru burning more fuel and air, sure higher FC lar. but why some ppl drive a modded car gain better FC? if you drive the car the normal way, you could lead to better FC coz you will be ez on the throttle to gain certain power or acceleration that you need to throttle more before you mod your ride. simple. but trust me, that jayraptor will come with even more awesome theories to reply here. 

wrong it's not the same! Lancer GT has a better tune hence higher peak horsepower. Lancer GT also has a different rom ID. It's not exactly the same.
Go get em' jayraptor! Don't back down!

is it the inspira 2.0 pre 2013 models?

and lancer has the 50kg anti roll bar.   

can provide me the link?
interesting....    

Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms . Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed

Jayraptor..

Can u minta mmc staff give any drill about 50kg metal bar?

Maybe a pic will do..

from page 3 to 13 all trolling on jayraptor comments...

stop playing as 'batu api' to provoke the hatred. enough is enough.
continue trolling and bashing only show your poor personality.

this is F&F, back on track lets talk about cars, not kopitiam gibberish.

All 2.0 inspiras are 5733001? lol i wonder why proton doesn't update the version. In US and other places the evo x gets a new rom each year

I see. The thing that surprises me is that you said Lancer GT and Inspira has the same rom ID but are they the same tune? If it's different tune then it explains why the Lancer has a higher output

sure or not.. then why lgt owez beat lala at the track? I tot diff arb weight need diff mapping..

you forgot about the 50KG Metal bar

hmm i see i see. interesting that mitsu would allow both cars to have the same output..

yea i get all except the part where MMC kept the power output the same. guess they're sacrificing some of the Lancer customer's satisfaction. actually quite simple to detune, just retard ignition timing by a small degree la

Actually it does. IINM LGT has a thicker rear ARB (but if it is 50kg or not I dunno lar)

correct me if ayam wrong

the GT was 20mm? is it? from UR website it has 17mm... but it was the pre inspira model, 2007 model la.

what difference would it make for a switch from 16mm to 23 or 25mm?