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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Liverpool 1 Man Utd 0

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andrewtho
post Aug 27 2013, 04:57 AM

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Welbz squandered a few chances, could've played better. Defensively quite sound, just lacked the cutting edge, crosses before Young came in were bad.

Rooney stays. He must.
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post Aug 27 2013, 04:57 AM

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it appears that rooney is taking all the spotlight. good play from him.


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post Aug 27 2013, 05:02 AM

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Not much creativity frm midfield. No one touch. Pass to winger then pass back to defenders
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:05 AM

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Time to end rooney saga.cash only would not suffice

Not the way he performed tonight.

And time for woodward do his job properly.bring on someone
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:07 AM

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Bore draw...no clear cut chances at all except Welbeck's chance but as usual he stumble and shot wide and his decision making is really get in my nerves. He pass when he suppose to shoot and he shoot when he suppose to pass...i admit he got the great abilities physically but mentally he is not very clever

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post Aug 27 2013, 05:09 AM

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Why still no start for Kagawa?
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:12 AM

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Well, this is the same team as last year. Have faith guys.
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Aug 27 2013, 05:09 AM)
Why still no start for Kagawa?
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A) lack of match fitness
B) Moyes still experimenting
C) waiting the right time to properly reintroduce kagawa
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:26 AM

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Game slow when valencia subbed out..should sub out welbeck first..but great tactical by DM..

Kagawa should start soon.. smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:39 AM

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honestly a little disappointed we couldnt get a win...chelsea had an extra match midweek and we were playing at home...tho i wouldnt say it was a great performance by roo, he was arguably the best player
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post Aug 27 2013, 08:20 AM

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A dull 0-0 draw. Rooney played brilliantly. rclxms.gif Lampard and Ramires handball. Ashely Cole dived. doh.gif
Its matches like this that Utd need a creative playmaker, ie, Ozil, Mata, Modric heck even Ronaldo can score blindfolded in this match brows.gif
Kagawa fits the bill so DM should play him more often this season.
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post Aug 27 2013, 08:53 AM

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no way rooney should wear other team jersey than MU

come on rooney
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post Aug 27 2013, 08:55 AM

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We could have just nick it if Rooney decide to through pass to RVP rather than testing his luck with Cech from such distance away.

That was the only time when RVP was open and given his effectiveness he could have taken that chance.

Anyhow, ok result as both team were quite cautious as losing so early in the season might not be good.
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post Aug 27 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Devil4life @ Aug 27 2013, 08:55 AM)
We could have just nick it if Rooney decide to through pass to RVP rather than testing his luck with Cech from such distance away.
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Easier said than done. His pass could have also been intercepted by an out stretched leg for all we know.

My 2 cents:

DDG - nothing much to do
Jones - good at defender, terrible at going forward. How I miss Rafael. Jones really needs to practice his crossing. The few times Valencia created space for him, he fluffed the cross.
Vidic and Rio - great job. Good positioning and overall defended well without really breaking a sweat.
Evra - doing very well. If he continues this way, we don't need Baines. Got caught out once or twice but really adds something going forward.
Carrick and Cleverley - did well. Good positioning and tracking back. For some reason, they switched sides. Usually Carrick is on the right, perhaps due to Lampard/Oscar? Passed safely.
Valencia - great energy and never made it easy on Cole or whoever was on the left. Constant harassing. Has regained half of his confidence back in taking players on but crossing has gone down hill from 2 seasons ago. Half way to go!
Welbeck - needs to be more selfish in the box and less selfish outside of it. Tendency to over-dribble. Didn't do much this game.
Rooney - MotM in my opinion. Had some wayward passes but played well in the hole. Strong on the dribble and sprayed passes around when needed. tracked back well too.
RvP - quiet game. No supply from his teammates.

Young & Giggs - meh....
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im not Rooney biggest fan, but i admire his performance tonight. he gave his best, despite all the transfer talks.. we dont need Mata or Ozil.

at this point Mata is likely to leave Chelsea than Rooney to leave United.

draw is a decent result, though Chelsea is the one benefited it more (cause we had a home advantage). last week against Swansea, i think DM was spotted on, on subsituation. but this week, i dont like his sub. Valencia should continue, Young should come for Welbeck to play LW.

Liverpool next.
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JM's strange idea of playing the false 9 formation must be his way of telling Rooney that "I need striker like you, mine all cannot harap".

But it is also an indication for him that "I can win without playing you" hmm.gif

Anyhow, if he wants to go, the only offer I will listen (if I am DM) is that Chelsea swap Mata with us + cash, or RM comes knocking and does a Ozil + *Modric combo.
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Nothing worse than staying up to see a bore draw being played out.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Aug 27 2013, 09:32 AM)
Nothing worse than staying up to see a bore draw being played out.
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#kamimahugolbukanseri,natang!!!

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post Aug 27 2013, 10:11 AM

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what?!?!?!?
first home game draw??!?!?!
#moyesout!
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post Aug 27 2013, 10:12 AM

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Chelsea right to stay tight against Man Utd, says Robbie Savage

In his regular BBC Sport column on football tactics, Robbie Savage goes to Old Trafford to look at Chelsea's goalless draw against Manchester United.

It was the first big Premier League game of the season - David Moyes' first home match as United boss and it came against one of their main title rivals.

Some people might have been disappointed with the outcome but I don't think Moyes or Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho will be.


The priority for both sides was not to lose and it was always going to be more of a chess match than an open, exciting encounter.

United tried a bit harder to win the game but they did not have the quality in midfield to find the pass they needed. You could see they need a creative player in the middle, while Chelsea definitely need a new striker.

Rooney right for Chelsea

We know which striker Mourinho wants - he has already made two bids for Wayne Rooney - and the United forward was the best player on the pitch. Rooney was terrific, and it was a great decision from Moyes to start him.

In a game where other attacking players found it hard to shine - his United team-mate Robin van Persie, for example, was ineffective - Rooney was everywhere and I think he wanted to prove to both sets of fans that he is worth a place in either starting line-up. He did that too.

His all-round game was exceptional, whether it was his tracking back, or the way he brought other people into play. He had all three of United's shots on target and it was his best performance for a long time.

Chelsea were set up with a lone striker in Andre Schurrle but, if Mourinho had got his wish and it had been Rooney instead, then they would have been a much bigger threat and might even have won the game. Schurrle worked hard but, in comparison he did not make any impact when he had the ball.

The Blues played on the counter attack but their balls forward were not good enough when they broke and they did not have a presence up front. That meant they could not build anything.

Chelsea put substance before style

What indicated to me that Chelsea were at Old Trafford to get a point was seeing their full-backs Branislav Ivanovic and Ashley Cole staying close to their centre-backs Gary Cahill and John Terry rather than trying to bomb forward.

Cole got forward in the second half when he had a penalty appeal turned down but, most of the time, he concentrated on his defensive duties.

So did a lot of Chelsea's attacking players like Schurrle and Oscar, who both made tackles and clearances. That is what Mourinho would have demanded from them.

Cahill and Terry's lack of pace was not exposed because of Ivanovic and Cole's discipline, and in many ways it was a typical performance from a Mourinho team in this type of game.

In his first spell in charge at Stamford Bridge they won a stack of trophies but they were not always the best to watch and that was the same here.

You can see Chelsea winning trophies because, with the players they have got, they can be fluid against some teams but efficient against others - and they were extremely efficient at Old Trafford.

New faces needed

This United team will be fine when they play against lesser teams in the Premier League but, as things stand, they are going to struggle against sides who, like Chelsea, are disciplined and have quality at the back to go with it.

You can see why Moyes has been in for Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas because they need a creative midfielder to play alongside Michael Carrick and pass through defences.

Tom Cleverley is a neat and tidy midfielder who can compete for the ball and keep the ball too but, in games against the really top sides, United will need more than that.

They need someone who can make a chance that can decide a very tight game - and I am not sure Cleverley has what it takes to provide that against teams of the very top level.

United also need a wide man who can go past players and provide accurate deliveries.

Neither side had a player who wanted to go past a man. You could understand Chelsea not trying it because of their gameplan but Valencia was meant to provide that outlet for United on the right. He did manage to put some crosses in, but they were poor - all five did not find a team-mate.

To get Rooney into the team, Giggs was left out and Welbeck was moved over from the centre to the left, which was a bit unfair on him. Welbeck was terrific in the Rooney role against Swansea last week but he is not a winger.

He was always drifting in from the left against Chelsea, which meant United did not have a threat on that flank either. When they played went through the middle, both teams cancelled each other out.

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