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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V47, Berpuasa dengan penuh kemiskinan

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Fubar20
post Jul 9 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:10 PM)
Y U two no get my joke  doh.gif
gorilla bz eat banana, gajah bz playing with his balls, no free to choi u  whistling.gif
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mad.gif Now feeding time where got play balls?
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:20 PM)
mad.gif Now feeding time where got play balls?
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After feeding continue to play wub.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(lkc_86 @ Jul 8 2013, 10:48 PM)
Hi Guys,

Actually i have few problem that had been following me for my saga FLX, kindly give me an advise:-
i) left passenger door still very hard to open after went to SC to repair it for few times.It was said saga left door always gt this things.

(p.s previously there is a rubber coming out which affecting the door for 2-3 month. Well this happen last year).

ii) The knocking sound of the rear break had been following me for few times after sent to repair it. (Did u guys ever got this problem). The SC said allignment problem..Knock it , can gaotim.. Well what happen there is no more warranty?

Any sifu can assist me on this matter?

Thanks in advance:)
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I also have problem with my right back door. One month ago the sc say will order the part for me but until now havent revert back.
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 9 2013, 01:13 PM)
dry.gif it is really a joke to me when i heard that people is stealing car wipers... if PIAA wipers kena stolen then cry.gif
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let's steal persona wipers. cool.gif

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jul 9 2013, 01:15 PM)
to be honest, saga's wiper is gooding material. and it is genuine bosch if m not wrong.
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stock wipers are SYNDICATE brand.

i just saw on FB, wipers can hang milo bungkus. LOL!

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Jul 9 2013, 12:36 PM
Fubar20
post Jul 9 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:23 PM)
After feeding continue to play  wub.gif
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dry.gif Playing beach ball and not my balls.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 9 2013, 12:33 PM)
let's steal persona wipers.  cool.gif
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U try and see lah. bruce.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Jul 9 2013, 01:29 PM)
I also have problem with my right back door. One month ago the sc say will order the part for me but until now havent revert back.
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SC ady know u r a tarp. whistling.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 9 2013, 12:38 PM)
SC ady know u r a tarp.  whistling.gif
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Maybe should consider going to EON instead of those small SC? Will EON have the parts on the spot?
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 9 2013, 12:33 PM)
let's steal persona wipers.  cool.gif

stock wipers are SYNDICATE brand.

i just saw on FB, wipers can hang milo bungkus. LOL!
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syndicate a company from India
no wonder it suits our weather really well
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 9 2013, 10:20 AM)
Hi...
Juz 2clear the usual confusion abt EO suitable 4Gagas...

Pls chk yr User Manual for range of SAE grades suitable...a wide range actually...

As is, xW30 to xW50 are all suitable & within range for our country ambient temp... thumbup.gif

xW30? For those who prefer lil bit better FC & faster revs? Less protection 4moving parts tho...

xW50? For those who dun mind slightly higher FC but provides better protection?

xW40? Most SCs use this & most users, too. The middle road.

As in everything in Life, any decision is a compromise...
Yr pref...yr decision...

Enjoy yr Gaga! Most important... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:45 AM)
hmm.gif Per tank? FC are controlled from your foot and not the EO. sleep.gif
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Yes, EO affects FC

SAE30, viscosity is low hence it flows faster at cold start, better protection at areas where a higher viscosity oil takes longer time enter at ambient temp. Problem is that the molecules breaks down much earlier when heat is introduced. Hence those using SAE30 you will feel you car lose power at hot afternoon but engine is very lively at morning or at night time.

SAE40, is has a higher viscosity than SAE30, so at cold start the engine noise would be a bit higher due to engine oil is taking a bit longer to reach into small and tight areas, you need to use decibel meters to measure the engine noise not your ears. It can take more heat and maintain lubrication property compare to SAE30.

SAE50, has the highest viscosity but provide the best protection when the engine is hot can take in much more heat. For older car that makan minyak and can't afford to do overhaul, mechs usually recommends using SAE50 to avoid too much engine oil sipping through the piston ring and get burnt off in the combustion chamber.

If you see most turbo cars and race cars, they use SAE50 because of the extreme heat that those engine produced and the engine's rev are mostly rev to 8 ~10K.

For normal street driven cars, SAE40 is optimum while SAE30 will be good if you stay at Cameron highland or Genting or you drive your cars mostly at night or morning only. You can still opt to use SAE30 but in hot days the oil will lose some of it's lubricating properties. I have some friends who use SAE30 but they add in friction modifiers on each oil change.

Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Jul 9 2013, 01:07 PM
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:06 PM

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hi...i am very new to OBD..

What is OBD?
Saga 1.3 FLX Exec (A) can install OBD2?
Where to fix or install OBD?

Kenny
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(tyco_5009 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:06 PM)
hi...i am very new to OBD..

What is OBD?
Saga 1.3 FLX Exec (A) can install OBD2?
Where to fix or install OBD?

Kenny
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Kenny, OBD stands for On Board Diagnostic. All cars (running ECU now has OBD system) OBD2 to be accurate.

OBD is for cars from 93 to 96
OBD2 is from 96 onwards.

Very simple to check.
OBD2 connector is located under the steering column near the fuse area. OBD1 is in the engine bay area.

Why need to install? or fix?

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Jul 9 2013, 01:14 PM
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 9 2013, 01:05 PM)
Yes, EO affects FC
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Just my 2 cents.
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For less than 5 bucks per tank saving? Ya, right. sweat.gif
Most time our car engine is at optimum temperature which is around 90 degrees (according to meter).
How many times do you think that it will be in cold temperature even in those Cameron or Genting area? Few minutes compare to hours that we spend driving like maybe less than 3%. hmm.gif
And nowadays our EO is in multiviscosity like 5W-40 instead of SAE 40 spec.
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:21 PM)
For less than 5 bucks per tank saving? Ya, right. sweat.gif
Most time our car engine is at optimum temperature which is around 90 degrees (according to meter).
How many times do you think that it will be in cold temperature even in those Cameron or Genting area? Few minutes compare to hours that we spend driving like maybe less than 3%.  hmm.gif
And nowadays our EO is in multiviscosity like 5W-40 instead of SAE 40 spec.
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Fubar, yala but it does affect FC maybe not much but still there's affect. The multigrade we have here actually is a plus point only. In Malaysia you can use single grade because we don't have winter. the 5, 10 W indicate the oil viscosity in 0 degrees.
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(tyco_5009 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:06 PM)
hi...i am very new to OBD..

What is OBD?
Saga 1.3 FLX Exec (A) can install OBD2?
Where to fix or install OBD?

Kenny
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 9 2013, 01:14 PM)
Kenny, OBD stands for On Board Diagnostic. All cars (running ECU now has OBD system) OBD2 to be accurate.

OBD is for cars from 93 to 96
OBD2 is from 96 onwards.

Very simple to check.
OBD2 connector is located under the steering column near the fuse area. OBD1 is in the engine bay area.

Why need to install? or fix?
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FLX OBD2 port is behind the dashboard directly underneath the steering column.

So call "install OBD" I think he is referring to a OBD scanner to read ECU sensor output

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QUOTE(DonMe @ Jul 9 2013, 09:07 AM)
My SA say 60,000KM or 3 years. But my owner manual and service guide put 100,000KM or 3 years. So which is correct? rclxub.gif
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can follow book since it states 100k km, but the truth is most gaga owners after 50,000km already cabut outside service due to long term high cost. And most of the parts which requires constant replacement are the wear and tear parts which isn't included in the warranty. sweat.gif


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post Jul 9 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 9 2013, 01:30 PM)
Fubar, yala but it does affect FC maybe not much but still there's affect. The multigrade we have here actually is a plus point only. In Malaysia you can use single grade because we don't have winter. the 5, 10 W indicate the oil viscosity in 0 degrees.
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hmm.gif To me, the effect is negligible compare to your right foot (and your left foot for manual).
Ya, can try single grade and see. laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 9 2013, 01:05 PM)
Yes, EO affects FC

SAE30, viscosity is low hence it flows faster at cold start, better protection at areas where a higher viscosity oil takes longer time enter at ambient temp. Problem is that the molecules breaks down much earlier when heat is introduced. Hence those using SAE30 you will feel you car lose power at hot afternoon but engine is very lively at morning or at night time.

SAE40, is has a higher viscosity than SAE30, so at cold start the engine noise would be a bit higher due to engine oil is taking a bit longer to reach into small and tight areas, you need to use decibel meters to measure the engine noise not your ears. It can take more heat and maintain lubrication property compare to SAE30.

SAE50, has the highest viscosity but provide the best protection when the engine is hot can take in much more heat. For older car that makan minyak and can't afford to do overhaul, mechs usually recommends using SAE50 to avoid too much engine oil sipping through the piston ring and get burnt off in the combustion chamber.

If you see most turbo cars and race cars, they use SAE50 because of the extreme heat that those engine produced and the engine's rev are mostly rev to 8 ~10K.

For normal street driven cars, SAE40 is optimum while SAE30 will be good if you stay at Cameron highland or Genting or you drive your cars mostly at night or morning only. You can still opt to use SAE30 but in hot days the oil will lose some of it's lubricating properties. I have some friends who use SAE30 but they add in friction modifiers on each oil change.

Just my 2 cents.
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Nice explanation....Anyway, I prefer SAE40...haha.....I think this is for common user~~~
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 9 2013, 01:33 PM)
can follow book since it states 100k km, but the truth is most gaga owners after 50,000km already cabut outside service due to long term high cost. And most of the parts which requires constant replacement are the wear and tear parts which isn't included in the warranty. sweat.gif
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30k already cabut... ph34r.gif

coolkwc 17K cabut ph34r.gif

This post has been edited by r3apers: Jul 9 2013, 01:54 PM
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:37 PM)
hmm.gif To me, the effect is negligible compare to your right foot (and your left foot for manual).
Ya, can try single grade and see.  laugh.gif
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I've use SEA30 single grade on my 206 from 2000 to 2005. I only change to multigrade when those single grade was hard to find in stores. I was running Lucas 30. Oil change every 5K. Then only I went to 0w-40.


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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 9 2013, 01:53 PM)
30k already cabut... ph34r.gif

coolkwc 17K cabut ph34r.gif
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I cabut after 1st service. biggrin.gif

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