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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V47, Berpuasa dengan penuh kemiskinan

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TitanRev
post Jul 4 2013, 01:14 PM

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All use K&N, BMC and Pipercross here...My WORKS drop in only 100 bucks...DIY install...Kakakakaka

BMC I last time used in my 206 also before going open pod. BMC very the likey compare to K&N. I burn kao the K&N when put in the BMC....Hahahahaha


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post Jul 4 2013, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jul 4 2013, 01:16 PM)
wise choice man, tongue.gif
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When I want the WORKS drop in the shop keep poison me with the WORKS CF air filter set...cost even more...but I keep hugging the drop in dont let him take back...drop 100 then faster cabut...

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post Jul 4 2013, 01:48 PM

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Mahihi, the seller said is WORKS wor but I see up and down also no WORKS logo so I also 50/50 belif only...I also touch,see and feel it in and out. Simota also got 1 like the WORKS one so when the seller show me I was like dejavu...not cheap man MYR5XX

The only CF air filter kit I used was from Racecraft. I swap it out but wonder I still have that CF casing or not because I kept it. Need to go find it 1st. The Racecraf one is 1 layer CF.

K&N I don't like is because it need to wash and oil. I got buy the cleaning set starting time very rajin one to clean but after sometimes ah I get fed up with it that's why I went for dry type and BMC drop in that one also need oiling but I find it perform better than K&N dyno tested on same car. BMC yielded extra 3% more hp.
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post Jul 4 2013, 01:57 PM

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mahihi, it's very confusing to me.....

You see this guy says it a WORKS unit
http://www.lelong.com.my/works-engineering...3-07-Sale-P.htm

Then on other website I see is Simota. I visit Zhapalang website also same
Simota is under WORKS category..
http://store.zhapalang.com.my/product_info...roducts_id=2073
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post Jul 4 2013, 05:29 PM

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revoluted or mutated???

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post Jul 6 2013, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 6 2013, 02:07 PM)
@titan rev... vr4turbo sent his regards... XD
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V12, oh?? he join you guys TT also??? You know him also ah??? Hahahaha small world...

Really itching to join you guys TT. Will join when I'm free to come and have permit from 2 home minister 1st...1 wife, 1 my baby....

Wah, I see all the sprint test macam very fast oh...I sudah takut....

class 13, CVT already have the ATF cooler. I think the owner just change or add an aftermarket cooler for engine/ gearbox and put it outside for "hey, look at my car yo...oil cooler" honestly, I won't do like that, if you follow behind a lorry and a 2 cents stone fall from the truck...hit the cooler, then gonna be www.hailatkaokao.com. You do this in Japan is ok because their road condition are much better maintained and truck carrying stone or sand is properly covered up and won't have some dropping off to the road. Different story here....

but from the picture, the hose to the cooler seems not attached? maybe for show only?? I see the car still has it's stock ATF cooler. Sorry to say like this, but now a lot of people like to pasang all the stuff for show....dummy interfooler, dummy oil cooler rclxub.gif

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post Jul 8 2013, 12:05 PM

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Happy Monday guys..
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post Jul 8 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jul 8 2013, 01:31 PM)
Just to add, it is applicable, weekdays from 2am to 5pm.

Update on my Redline Air filter usage. Good news. My FC improved from 13.45 km/L to 14.15 km/L.

Thank you shaoming90

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Seems like gooding oh... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 8 2013, 07:41 PM

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Yesterday midnight, got a saga BLM try to challenge me into a race. I pulled away from him as soon as I drop to 4th gear at the end I slowed down and we went separate ways. That guy gave a honk and a thumbs up. I couldn't see the car no plate. White BLM with offset rims, HID and bodykit. Got some sticker at the side.

Anyone from here or ProsBoc member???

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post Jul 8 2013, 07:48 PM

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Kancil, they use SEA30 is because the engine is 3 piston only. Less heat = slower break down of engine oil molecules, engine create less power 30ps only, hence they use a thinner engine oil. If they use thicker ones, their car will lose power, FC very bad, cold start also very noisy.
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 9 2013, 10:20 AM)
Hi...
Juz 2clear the usual confusion abt EO suitable 4Gagas...

Pls chk yr User Manual for range of SAE grades suitable...a wide range actually...

As is, xW30 to xW50 are all suitable & within range for our country ambient temp... thumbup.gif

xW30? For those who prefer lil bit better FC & faster revs? Less protection 4moving parts tho...

xW50? For those who dun mind slightly higher FC but provides better protection?

xW40? Most SCs use this & most users, too. The middle road.

As in everything in Life, any decision is a compromise...
Yr pref...yr decision...

Enjoy yr Gaga! Most important... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 10:45 AM)
hmm.gif Per tank? FC are controlled from your foot and not the EO. sleep.gif
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Yes, EO affects FC

SAE30, viscosity is low hence it flows faster at cold start, better protection at areas where a higher viscosity oil takes longer time enter at ambient temp. Problem is that the molecules breaks down much earlier when heat is introduced. Hence those using SAE30 you will feel you car lose power at hot afternoon but engine is very lively at morning or at night time.

SAE40, is has a higher viscosity than SAE30, so at cold start the engine noise would be a bit higher due to engine oil is taking a bit longer to reach into small and tight areas, you need to use decibel meters to measure the engine noise not your ears. It can take more heat and maintain lubrication property compare to SAE30.

SAE50, has the highest viscosity but provide the best protection when the engine is hot can take in much more heat. For older car that makan minyak and can't afford to do overhaul, mechs usually recommends using SAE50 to avoid too much engine oil sipping through the piston ring and get burnt off in the combustion chamber.

If you see most turbo cars and race cars, they use SAE50 because of the extreme heat that those engine produced and the engine's rev are mostly rev to 8 ~10K.

For normal street driven cars, SAE40 is optimum while SAE30 will be good if you stay at Cameron highland or Genting or you drive your cars mostly at night or morning only. You can still opt to use SAE30 but in hot days the oil will lose some of it's lubricating properties. I have some friends who use SAE30 but they add in friction modifiers on each oil change.

Just my 2 cents.

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post Jul 9 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(tyco_5009 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:06 PM)
hi...i am very new to OBD..

What is OBD?
Saga 1.3 FLX Exec (A) can install OBD2?
Where to fix or install OBD?

Kenny
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Kenny, OBD stands for On Board Diagnostic. All cars (running ECU now has OBD system) OBD2 to be accurate.

OBD is for cars from 93 to 96
OBD2 is from 96 onwards.

Very simple to check.
OBD2 connector is located under the steering column near the fuse area. OBD1 is in the engine bay area.

Why need to install? or fix?

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post Jul 9 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:21 PM)
For less than 5 bucks per tank saving? Ya, right. sweat.gif
Most time our car engine is at optimum temperature which is around 90 degrees (according to meter).
How many times do you think that it will be in cold temperature even in those Cameron or Genting area? Few minutes compare to hours that we spend driving like maybe less than 3%.  hmm.gif
And nowadays our EO is in multiviscosity like 5W-40 instead of SAE 40 spec.
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Fubar, yala but it does affect FC maybe not much but still there's affect. The multigrade we have here actually is a plus point only. In Malaysia you can use single grade because we don't have winter. the 5, 10 W indicate the oil viscosity in 0 degrees.
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 9 2013, 01:37 PM)
hmm.gif To me, the effect is negligible compare to your right foot (and your left foot for manual).
Ya, can try single grade and see.  laugh.gif
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I've use SEA30 single grade on my 206 from 2000 to 2005. I only change to multigrade when those single grade was hard to find in stores. I was running Lucas 30. Oil change every 5K. Then only I went to 0w-40.


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post Jul 9 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 9 2013, 01:53 PM)
30k already cabut... ph34r.gif

coolkwc 17K cabut ph34r.gif
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I cabut after 1st service. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 9 2013, 02:33 PM)
soon will have tron car mari TT already... Tron r3apers GaGa
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Satellite blinder to TRON.... Geng! Reaper kasi install the TRON disc also...who u no syok kasi throw the disc and cut in half
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post Jul 9 2013, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM)
Engine oil talk

Fubar20 TitanRev

I know you guys have your idea on how motor oil benefit the car. Here's my piece to chip in despite I'm not particular and have very little knowledge on engine oil. I've been driving several years, changing engine oil almost every 3 month, sometimes twice when I hit 3000 miles too soon. Due to cost of motor oil start increasing, I found I'm paying more and more on the vehicle maintenance, so I start to dig more info from magician. Helping to overhaul engine benefit the most in terms of technical knowledge and understand how motor oil affect engine performance.

Rule of thumb, buy engine oil with API stamp. Here's a link, please download and print a copy put inside your car. The next time when you wanna purchase motor oil, make sure you read the ratings whether its SN/SJ/SM/SL.

http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoi...2010_120210.pdf

With API ratings, you'll get an idea how these engine oil comply to your power unit. Your motor vehicle rely on the chemical inside the motor oil to survive friction. The viscosity only meant very little, but the API rating worth the most. Hence, when you use cap ayam motor oil, despite they put down 10w60, that does not mean the molecule can stand your car's 10.1:1 compressrion ratio with 400'c extreme heat during the ignition. Be it 10w100, it doesn't make any difference when the oil being channeled into the combustion chamber.

However, don't take my word as a whole. The viscosity does yield it's importance. For instance 10w40 multi-visco simply means 10 comes suffixed with W, meaning WINTER(not weight/watt as claim by others) for cold start viscosity. The 40 after W is hot viscosity. The front winter denote has lower figure, meaning the liquid has lower "beku" point. Sorry ran out of vocabulary. The hot visco higher denote a higher boiling point. You don't want oil to boil, just like your mommy cooking in the kitchen.

I've seen many horrible incident's while helping customer to do engine overhauling. Unsurprisingly, most of them having problem with their motor, they tend to miss their oil change quite often, sometimes up to few years did not change oil at all. Before dismantle an engine for overhaul, as I loosen the oil sum nut, I'll be extremely careful to not let oil spill on my hand. These burnt oil can irritate my skin and cause allergy. However, most of the time after the sum nut being pull off, there aren't any oil drip out. Even if there is, very little and very thick. Got once we unable to drain anything out from the sum, because those oil already turned grease. Can imagine how not to jammed the pistons?

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Thinner hot viscosity oil does not mean you have less chance building up sludge, infact it's the opposite. Otften I ask magician why not fully synthetic as those expansive oil usually added cleaning agent, can last up to 6000 miles. The answer is simple, recycle the same oil in the engine can only make those oil turn into sludge. Debris and dirt to have more opportunity to form a bigger object between molecule, hence sludge start to build.

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I used to worship 76 racing motor oil 10w40 for NASCAR, until my car start to emit white smoke and finally ended up with a full overhaul. Again, I did the overhaul by myself with assistance of magician to find that not much sludge built up, but the piston ring has been fully grounded off. Lesson learned as magician explain, usually racing motor oil does meant for racing. Those oil wouldn't last more than few thousand miles as it degrade faster than normal oil from the market. The dangerous part is, motor oil should form a film of coating on engine parts, but the degraded oil does not. It will be fully drained to the sump. Believe it or not, your engine life were shorten each time you crank start it, not when you taking it to the redline(provided the redline figure is properly balanced on your crankcase).

From the above little knowledge I gained from magician, I've been practicing frequent oil change. For your information, VTEC oil is rated SAE10w30 have no problem running at 8krpm.

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Oh....that's some serious sludge on that Bimmer engine....that's the problem if sticking to prolonged service intervals. Those that rely on on board computers to calculate service time. I change all my cars engine oil at 5K or max 7K. won't go until 10K.
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jul 9 2013, 09:50 PM)
i use stop oil,wanna try???once foreman was saying that it looks and feels better than castrol magnatec,ahahhhaa tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Stop Oil, thumbup.gif all my company truck the foreman recommend use this. My driver also say the engine feel smoother and quiet.

garybenjamin, that Dugong so lan C huh....make me itch want to tail him until his balls drop... laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jul 9 2013, 10:48 PM)
ehehehehe,local oil can be gooding also..... blush.gif  blush.gif
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That,s why now still using stop oil for the truck rclxms.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 10:49 PM)
sweat.gif I was gonna say lucky the dugong driver kacau gary not you. If kacau you he'll be in the hospital / mortuary now  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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If I see david do that, I will ready popcorn and soft drink. Fast and Furious 7.

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