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cacin
post Nov 17 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(dextm @ Nov 17 2015, 08:16 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice and guidance. I want to paint brush the hydraulic piston as photo below with chrome colors. Found quite a few choices such as tamiya chrome silver, mr. hobby metallic, super metallic and modo.

My question are as follows:
1. Which will give the best chrome effect by using paint brush only since I don't own an airbrush set  sweat.gif
2. Can Lacquer paint be used with paint brush? I do understand that it will not achieve airbrush result  sweat.gif  Thinking of getting the thinner and retarder also if it is suitable for paint brush. Other concern is that heard lacquer paints fumes are toxic  rclxub.gif
3. On top coat, planning to do flat top coat once the kit is completed. The internal frames are already sprayed with tamiya gunmetal, so should it be top coated or just top coat the armor pieces.

Thanks for your feedback guys. Made a few kits previously but this is the first time deciding to do top coat and some minor paint job to the hydraulics, thruster and also the screw like joints. Will consider to get a small airbrush set in the future but for the moment, paint brush is all that I got  thumbup.gif

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I sometimes do detailing with paint brush too. So far, I used the citadel (for warhammer 40K) colours one. I had also used Valejo model air.
I will post photo later.
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post Nov 17 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(heally82 @ Nov 17 2015, 09:33 AM)
there are lots of options available:

1) chrome stickers- art shop or even daiso sells these stickers

2) any hobby chrome paints ( preferably hobby one coz finer metallic pigments so after you polish can get chrome affect)

3) chrome powder - this is the recommended option as just rub it over ur parts and viola!  only downside is make sure these parts not occasionally touch as will loose the chrome effect

option 2 and 3 require to base coat a layer of gloss black though to optimize the chrome effect.

there are also a few point need to be taken, maximize the effect will require surface smoothness and dark color to give the mirror contrast (meaning gloss black la)

coz if the above not done perfectly all you can get is only metal feel not chrome...
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Thanks for the recommendation. Now I am intrigue with your chrome powder recommendation.

QUOTE(cacin @ Nov 17 2015, 10:08 AM)
I sometimes do detailing with paint brush too. So far, I used the citadel (for warhammer 40K) colours one. I had also used Valejo model air.
I will post photo later.
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Yes please do post pics.
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post Nov 17 2015, 12:17 PM

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post Nov 17 2015, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(dextm @ Nov 17 2015, 11:39 AM)
Thanks for the recommendation. Now I am intrigue with your chrome powder recommendation.
Yes please do post pics.
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Behold the power of chrome powder!
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if you understand Chinese then video below will intrigue you more, otherwise just go through with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgM4rIwe2rI

cacin
post Nov 18 2015, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(dextm @ Nov 17 2015, 11:39 AM)
Yes please do post pics.
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Sorry for the delay. Using Valejo Model Air, Chrome.

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post Nov 20 2015, 02:50 PM

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Noob question here.

Just gonna start to do airbrush.. now i am doing the sanding for the those armour. the only sandpaper i have is 1000. now after i sand, there is some tiny scratch line on that armor piece, just a surface scratch, not a deep scratch. should i buy fine sand paper to make the surface smoother or i can just spray on it? the paint can cover the scratch line up?
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post Nov 20 2015, 02:51 PM

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BTW can use dish washer to wash the kit or not?
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post Nov 20 2015, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(grivhuey @ Nov 20 2015, 02:50 PM)
Noob question here.

Just gonna start to do airbrush.. now i am doing the sanding for the those armour. the only sandpaper i have is 1000. now after i sand, there is some tiny scratch line on that armor piece, just a surface scratch, not a deep scratch. should i buy fine sand paper to make the surface smoother or i can just spray on it? the paint can cover the scratch line up?
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2000 and 2500 grade would be a safe bet even most of the people advise 1500, with 1000 you will notice scratch marks even during priming.

dish washer i thought has some hot water cleaning one? scared you kit might deform if its reaches 100 celcius
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Nov 20 2015, 04:47 PM)
2000 and 2500 grade would be a safe bet even most of the people advise 1500, with 1000 you will notice scratch marks even during priming.

dish washer i thought has some hot water cleaning one? scared you kit might deform if its reaches 100 celcius
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OMG.. then there will be more sanding to work with T,T

I think i would wash with tap water.. 100 celcius i would be able to wash la.. zzz

Thanks fr ur advise btw..
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post Nov 20 2015, 07:38 PM

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dish washer + tap water will do the cleaning and drain excess oil on your kit. mostly old old kit one.
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post Nov 21 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(grivhuey @ Nov 20 2015, 06:47 PM)
OMG.. then there will be more sanding to work with T,T

I think i would wash with tap water.. 100 celcius i would be able to wash la.. zzz

Thanks fr ur advise btw..
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to be frank if you work area not so dirty and you wear gloves during nipping process should be safe to skip the washing


QUOTE(edan1979 @ Nov 20 2015, 07:38 PM)
dish washer + tap water will do the cleaning and drain excess oil on your kit. mostly old old kit one.
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totally agreed done my hg dark matter without washing and nothing happen even i skip priming too.
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post Nov 23 2015, 02:06 PM

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Any of you paint your models with car spray paints? What brands do you use? Been looking for an alternative to Bosny that can grip onto bare plastic just as well
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post Nov 24 2015, 01:43 PM

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Guys need some advice. What acrylic color can you recommend for painting resin statue. It will be pre-painted with primer so I only need the main paint. Also what top coat can you recormmend and where to buy. Thanks in advance.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:28 AM

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guys I'm new here ..where can I buy Tamiya cement .
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(loliwarmech @ Nov 23 2015, 02:06 PM)
Any of you paint your models with car spray paints? What brands do you use? Been looking for an alternative to Bosny that can grip onto bare plastic just as well
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can sprays, usually result in very thick & wet coat, because the pressure is fixed. lots of wastage and lots of overspray. you go Ace Hardware there's at least 2 brands of canned paints that states no need primer because it's primer+top coat type.

but best is buy the rm15 Grey Primer and airbrush. you get better result and save more money.
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QUOTE(tracemaster @ Nov 24 2015, 01:43 PM)
Guys need some advice.  What acrylic color can you recommend for painting resin statue.  It will be pre-painted with primer so I only need the main paint. Also what top coat can you recormmend and where to buy.  Thanks in advance.
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if brush panting any Tamiya/Mr.Hobby bottle paint can. top coat can get mr.topcoat, BJT got but canned topcoats super expensive. Gloss coat many alternatives in hardware shop but semi/flat topcoat really not much choice. cheapest is airbrush + mr.hobby flat clear, but it's not hard enough to protect against scratches. Mr.Hobby Super Clear is Lacquer based will form a harder topcoat but might react with acrylic paint. Or you can try Enamel.
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Hi,need some advice from more experience member. Just got a new airbrush, been painting my models with brush in the past and though of trying something new. I've been testing the new airbrush with GW citadel paints and some tamiya acrylics. Recently went to the hobby shop and had a chat and got convince to try the Mr Hobby Aqueous paints.

So, some advice on the following questions-

1)It is ok too thin aqueous paint with the mr.hobby leveling thinner,been using it with other paints is ok, but the hobby shop guy was persistent that the aqueous thinner is better.

2)Is it ok to use the aqueous paint as an alternative to citadel paints, for detail brush painting, or should I stick to GW citadel paints.

3)The GW citadel 'washes', what is the better dilution? Used water to diluted to airbrush but final result not satisfying, there is uneven distribution with white granules.

4)It is ok to use the Modo flat clear paint as a coat over models painted with GW citadel or acrylic paints? Been reading abit regarding these but, there are mix opinion on it, some say is ok, some say it's not.

Thanks in advance, for any advice. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 26 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(anerion @ Dec 26 2015, 02:21 PM)
Hi,need some advice from more experience member. Just got a new airbrush, been painting my models with brush in the past and though of trying something new. I've been testing the new airbrush with GW citadel paints and some tamiya acrylics. Recently went to the hobby shop and had a chat and got convince to try the Mr Hobby Aqueous paints.

So, some advice on the following questions-

1)It is ok too thin aqueous paint with the mr.hobby leveling thinner,been using it with other paints is ok, but the hobby shop guy was persistent that the aqueous thinner is better.

2)Is it ok to use the aqueous paint as an alternative to citadel paints, for detail brush painting, or should I stick to GW citadel paints.

3)The GW citadel 'washes', what is the better dilution? Used water to diluted to airbrush but final result not satisfying, there is uneven distribution with white granules.

4)It is ok to use the Modo flat clear paint as a coat over models painted with GW citadel or acrylic paints? Been reading abit regarding these but, there are mix opinion on it, some say is ok, some say it's not.

Thanks in advance, for any advice.  biggrin.gif
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leveling thinner is expensive, i'm sure you can use it to thin your paint, but if you are using handpaint and thin with thinner, it might "eat" away your base paint (if there's any) because leveling thinner is very strong

best is to use the thinner that belongs to the type of paint, lacquer use mr hobby thinner, enamel use zippo or enamel thinner, acrylic use acrylic thinner

i not sure what you mean by "washes" and i dont use GW citadel, so far i only tried mr hobby lacquer and enamel

you can use Modo color top coat as coating using airbrush, thin it with mr Hobby leveling thinner, i've been using it for 3 of my ship models and the results is satisfying and modo color is slightly cheaper price for the volume it offer compare to mr hobby top coat

if you are using lacquer type top coat, make sure your acrylic or enamel base paint is completely dried and cured, if not the thinner of the top coat might "eat" the base color

since you are going to spray flat clear, you can spray from a bit further distance, this will let the paint to partially dried before reaching the kit giving more rough finishing, but that's depends on what kind of model you are spray on and your preference smile.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Dec 21 2015, 10:10 PM)
if brush panting any Tamiya/Mr.Hobby bottle paint can. top coat can get mr.topcoat, BJT got but canned topcoats super expensive. Gloss coat many alternatives in hardware shop but semi/flat topcoat really not much choice. cheapest is airbrush + mr.hobby flat clear, but it's not hard enough to protect against scratches. Mr.Hobby Super Clear is Lacquer based will form a harder topcoat but might react with acrylic paint. Or you can try Enamel.
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if you are using airbrush, you probably dont need to worry much on the reaction with acrylic paint, just make sure your acrylic base is completely dried and cured then you will be fine

when you spray with airbrush dont spray too much layer at once and after spray dont touch it and let it dry first, after the first layer dried you can proceed to spray another slightly thicker layer depends on your preference

i dont like spray can, it is hard to control the amount of paint output and their very expensive and doesn't last long

spray can in Ace Hardware or those hardware shop is cheap, but they are using industrial thinner to thin the paint so it might melt plastic, and those paint isn't really suitable for model kit
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post Dec 27 2015, 08:39 PM

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off topic. paiseh...Hi folks, last week the detolf's door glass was broken. so i need a to know what is the exact dimension of the door eg, width x height x depth.
Anyone of you have this ikea detolf pls do me a favor to measure the dimension thks alot.

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