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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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post Jun 27 2013, 04:32 PM

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reits rebound...no fun. where is my yield 6%. yawn.gif

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bought a little cimbc25 to play HK rebound with eyes closed. cool2.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 04:37 PM

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sold the additional cmmt bought at 1.6x for fast trading. free kfc. cool2.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 04:39 PM

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today seems more towards technical rebound than bullish. expecting more corrections or sidelines ahead. hmm.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:40 PM)
klci 12 points le  hmm.gif
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most stocks that rebound are at their close to lowest daily range. sellers still a lot. just funds are supporting. just my view. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:40 PM)
klci 12 points le  hmm.gif

duno benny lee's forecast true or not  hmm.gif
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what benny lee said? notworthy.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:45 PM)
i tot you are the one who post his research yesterday
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oh i never remember their names! sorry benny for not respecting you. notworthy.gif tongue.gif

so it's regarding the brewers is it?
i think i agree with him that brewers in malaysia are now too expensive to buy. minimum growth with low yield, plus tax hike risk. i'd wish to see a 15-20% correction on brewers. hmm.gif

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post Jun 27 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:55 PM)
you said in here ma, my short term memory not bad  biggrin.gif  - https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry61319845
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i see i see. this one. tongue.gif

next week should see a better picture. since this week more like TA rebound and windows dressing period. nod.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 05:10 PM)
so what's your plan? add more position or raise more cash tomoro? i am still about 60% cash hmm.gif
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as i am bad at timing the market, i guess i'll just stick to my simple strategy of buying/selling according to valuation. Every 15-20% up/down, consider to sell/buy according to valuation. biggrin.gif
my cash level has reduced to 40% now. sweat.gif

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post Jun 27 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 05:58 PM)
You mean if got 15-20% paper profit, you will materialize it? And if the stock got 15-20% 'discount' according to your valuation you will buy it?
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of course it all depends on market sentiment too. basically, i do it opposite the market sentiment: bad, i buy. good, i sell.
and most importantly, it all according to fundamental valuation.
just sharing. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 06:25 PM

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China: Starts investigation to ensure accuracy of economic data. China said
it will start an investigation to ensure the accuracy of data filed by companies as
part of efforts to improve the reliability of statistics in the world's second-largest
economy. There is an urgent need to prevent fraud in data submission, National
Bureau of Statistics head Ma Jiantang was cited by China Information News.
Those found submitting inaccurate information for major statistics may be
"severely punished," the newspaper, published by the bureau, reported without
citing anyone. (Source: Bloomberg)


I like China more and more. I had increased investment for China play (in HKSE + local xinhua ETF) from 1% last year to 8% today. icon_rolleyes.gif

In fact, if the execution goes well, china companies listed abroad may get back their fair valuation. For now, in HKSE, they already trading at fair value (ie. 7-9x), while in Bursa and Singapore, they are trading at depressing valuation. hmm.gif
fyi, I have zero holding on local red-chips at the moment. Need to see more results from China first. cool.gif

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post Jun 27 2013, 08:56 PM

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Axiata out. Malaysia tak Boleh. tongue.gif
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post Jun 28 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 28 2013, 01:48 PM)
Gold thread very keng today.. lose money can twist and turn to calculate until win money one.... if we invest like that mah everyday hoseh. never lose money even the stock goes down.  rclxms.gif
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post Jun 30 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 30 2013, 02:38 PM)
The more I see those information the more I'm  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Me too. I'll just leave the numbers job to IBs and let them earn the 1st round, I follow on 2nd or 3rd round. cry.gif

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post Jul 1 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(LOWYAT3AB @ Jul 1 2013, 12:36 PM)
Wow ! Expected RM 20/share gain is a lot.  Can you share how did you arrive at
this valuation for Nestle and how much time is needed to reach your target ?

Volume traded is still low.

Why are people not rushing in to grab this now ?

TA is just an additional tool to help me make decisions when to
buy,sell or hold. Only an extra guide, better than simply buying
or selling without it. TA works quite well with high volume counters.

I would not rush in to buy Nestle now. Want to wait to see today's closing
price chart.
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many property stocks got staircase downwards. is this the sign of dangerous? or just sidelines? notworthy.gif
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post Jul 1 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jul 1 2013, 03:53 PM)
sidelined... totally sidelined! No big ups or big downs, ugh

And today YEELEE up 5%!!!!!

Should had bought last Friday
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my coastal steroid continues. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 1 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 1 2013, 04:09 PM)
Got DIBS, then you pay 10% downpayment

No DIBS, then you pay 2% and service the interest.

More or less the same.
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saving the interest is actually saving the real money right? so normally how long nowadays that people need to pay for the interest before giving keys to move in? 2 years? notworthy.gif

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post Jul 1 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 1 2013, 04:13 PM)
hmm.gif No DIBS, the house can sell lower...............but the buyer need to effort 2-3 years interest

actually is same
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true. when we talk about housing price, there is no feeling on few thousands difference.
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post Jul 1 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 1 2013, 04:16 PM)
Of course the not same part is..

If no DIBS and developer build very fast, then purchaser will benefit. But if developer delay.. Then purchaser will cry.

For DIBS, if developer build very fast, developer will benefit. But if developer delay, then developer will cry.
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good point. So for moderate developers, this will help to sell. For reputable developers, no effect. nod.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 1 2013, 04:41 PM)
Nestle suddenly wake up hmm.gif
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panamy also quite strong. reits were sold down but far from as heavy as S-REITs. hmm.gif
bursa is really a damn defensive market to trade. While bull, defensive stays defensive, high beta stays beta. All lives. doh.gif tongue.gif
local funds are in all better stocks here. so they don't sell, market don't down. if they sell, they buy what? they have no choice but to keep. yawn.gif

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