Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Countries with the world's most powerful airforce, rulers of the skies

views
     
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 12:15 PM, updated 13y ago

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


credit to mevotex@miricommunity.net

user posted image
10. Japan Air Self Defense Force (Japan)
Size: 45,000 personnel, 791 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Mitsubishi F-2
Electronic warfare: Boeing E-767, Kawasaki EC-1, E-2C Hawkeye
Fighter: F-4 Phantom II, Mitsubishi F-15J, Mitsubishi F-2
Helicopter: UH-60J Black Hawk, Boeing CH-47J Chinook, KV-107 Sea Knight
Interceptor: Mitsubishi F-15J
Trainer: Mitsubishi F-15DJ, Fuji T-7, Hawker T-400, Kawasaki T-4
Transport Kawasaki C-1, Boeing KC-767J, Hercules C-130H

After World War II, JASDF was planted in 1954, as an unified form of Imperial Japanese Army Air Service and Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service. Now the aviation branch of Japan Self-Defense Force, JASDF is one of the sharpest tool, responsible for the defense of Japanese airspace and other aerospace operations. With an impeccable array of ultramodern radar systems (Basic Air Defense Ground Environment) and combat air patrols, JASDF is widely known for its assaulter squadrons in the list of strongest air forces of the world.

user posted image
9. Royal Australian Airforce (Australia)
Size: 17,375 personnel, 275 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Electronic warfare: Boeing 737 AEW&C
Fighter: F/A-18 Hornet, F/A-18F Super Hornet
Patrol: AP-3C Orion
Reconnaissance: Heron UAV
Trainer: Pilatus PC-9, BAE Hawk 127, Beechcraft B300
Transport: C-130 Hercules, C-17 Globemaster III, Boeing 737, Beechcraft B300, Bombardier Challenger 600, Airbus A330 MRTT

Comparatively small but tremendously deadly, RAAF was established on March 31, 1921, and till the date it has majorly participated in some of the deadliest conflicts of 20th century including World War 2, The Korean War and the Vietnam War. Comprising of a powerful fighter fleet along with sophisticated technology, RAAF is credited for its abilities to immediately implement the kinetic and non-kinetic air effects.

user posted image
8. Luftwaffe (Germany)
Size: Size 32,111 personnel, 428 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Panavia Tornado IDS
Electronic warfare: Panavia Tornado ECR
Fighter: McDonnel-Douglas, F-4 Phantom II, Eurofighter Typhoon
Trainer: Northrop T-38 Talon, Grob G-120, T-6 Texan
Transport: Bombardier Global Express 5000, Airbus A310, Airbus A319, Airbus A340, Eurocopter Cougar, Transall C-160

One of the most striking air force with the trail of top-notch pilots, Luftwaffe was established in 1935, after violating the Treaty of Versailles. During the World War II, this air force overshadowed the skies of continental Europe and defeated its foreign counterparts with its technological edge. After the war, the Luftwaffe was re-established in 1956 and remains as the German Air Force to the present day. In 2005 and 2008, Luftwaffe fighter planes took part in the Baltic Air Policing operation of NATO. To support military operations in Afghanistan, the Luftwaffe had also sent over several war planes in 2006.

user posted image
7. Indian Airforce (India)
Size: 127,000 personnel, 1,370 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Jaguar SEPECAT, MiG-27, IAI Harpy
Fighter: MiG-21, Mirage 2000, MiG-29, Su-30MKI, HAL Tejas
Helicopter: Dhruv, Chetak, Cheetah, Mil Mi-8, Mil Mi-17, Mil Mi-26, Mil Mi-25/35, AgustaWestland AW101
Reconnaissance: IAI Searcher II, IAI Heron
Trainer: HPT-32 Deepak, HJT-16 Kiran, Hawk Mk 132, Pilatus C-7 Mk II
Transport: C-17 Globemaster III, Il-76, An-32, HS 748, Do 228, Boeing 737, Embraer ERJ 135, Il-78 MKI, C-130J

Considered one of the best equipped air force across the world along with professional standards, the Indian Airforce was founded on October 8, 1932, and since then it has been in the limelight of mainstream media for its logical expansion and modernization. In term of size, it is the fourth largest airforce in the world with approximately 127,000 personnel and 1,370 aircraft, though it still lag behind major rivals in technological upper-hand and quality of pilots.

Since Independence, the Indian Air Force had been involved in several wars, one with neighboring Pakistan and one with the People's Republic of China. Other major operations undertaken by IAF are Operation Vijay- the invasion of Goa, Operation Meghdoot and Operation Cactus. The IAF had also been an active participant in United Nations peace keeping mission. During the Kargil War of 1999, the Indian Air Force had provided close air support to the Indian Army with the use of helicopters.

user posted image
6. Armee de I'Air (France)
Size: 49,827 regular personnel, 634 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Dassault Rafale C, Dassault Rafale B,
Combat: Dassault Mirage 2000 5F/C/D/B/N, Mirage F1 CR & CT
Reconnaissance: Boeing E-3 Sentry, Transall C-160
Transport: Transall C-160, Airbus A330 MRTT, CASA/IPTN CN-235, Lockheed C-130 Hercules, Transall C-160, Transall C-160, Airbus A400M Atlas, Airbus A340, Airbus A310
Helicopter: Eurocopter EC725 Caracal, Eurocopter AS532 Cougar, Eurocopter AS555 Fennec, Aérospatiale SA330 Puma
Utility: De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otter
Trainer: Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet, Embraer EMB 121 Xingu, Jodel D.140, Socata TB 30 Epsilon, Walter Extra 300
UAV: EADS Harfang

Founded in 1909 as the air force of the French Armed Forces, Armee de l'Air is considered as the world's first professional air force. Dating back to history, the French had taken active interest in developing the air force from 1909. In the post-World War 2 era, the French made a successful effort to develop a domestic aircraft industry, creating the Mirage series of jet fighters, one of the most admired aircraft in the history of military aviation.

Buff of technological developments, methodical defensive strategies and straightforward doctrine of ruling skies, this air force is better known for comprising new generation multirole combat airplanes. Currently the French Air Force is expanding their numbers in aircrafts, it has 234 combat aircraft with the majority being 158 Dassault Mirage 2000 and 59 Dassault Rafale. There are a total of nearly 700 aircraft in service.

user posted image
5. People Liberation Army Airforce (China)
Size: 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Nanchang Q-5, Xian JH-7
Bomber: Xian JH-7, Xian H-6
Electronic warfare: KJ-200, KJ-2000.
Fighter: Shenyan J-11, Chendu J-10, Shenyan J-8II, Chendu J-7, Su-27, Su-30
Interceptor: Shenyan J-8II
Trainer: Hongdu L-15, Hongdu JL-8, JL-9
Transport: Shanxi Y-9, Shanxi Y-8, Antonov Y-7, Il-76

With a long list of more than 330,000 personnel and 2,500+ aircrafts, PLAAF is the largest and most powerful airforce in Asia and is better known for comprising some of the deadliest self-reliance combat aircrafts. The PLAAF was founded with Soviet assistance on November 1, 1949, shortly after the formation of People's Republic of China. Referring to the history, the PLAAF had fought the Korean War in Soviet built MiG-15, known as the J-2 in Chinese service, with training from Soviet instructors. With the withdrawal of Soviet aid due to the Sino-Soviet split, the airforce had made serious efforts to raise the educational level and improve the training of their pilots. After the fall of USSR, Russia became China's principal arm suppliers. Today, the Chinese airforce has built up its own qualitative edge in modern air striking capabilities.

user posted image
4. Royal Airforce (United Kingdom)
Size: 827 aircraft, 38,520 regular and RAuxAF, 33,380 regular reserve
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Panavia Tornado GR4, Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4, General Atomics Reaper MQ-9
Electronic warfare: Boeing E-3 Sentry
Fighter: Eurofighter Typhoon F2
Helicopter: Boeing Chinook, AugustaWestland Merlin, Aerospatiale Puma, Westland Sea King, Griffin HAR2
Interceptor: Eurofighter Typhoon
Reconnaissance: Britten Norman Islander, Beechcraft Shadow R1, Raytheon Sentinel R1, General Atomics Reaper, Panavia Tornado GR4A
Trainer: BAE Hawk, Beechcraft King Air, Eurocopter Squirrel, Short Tucano, Grob Tutor, Grob Vigilant, Grob Viking
Transport: Boeing C-17, Lockheed Hercules C3, Lockheed Hercules C4 & C5, Lockheed Tristar, Vickers VC10, Airbus Voyager

The kingpin of British military history and the decision maker of some of the world's greatest conflicts, the RAF is the oldest independent airforce in the world which is renowned for its strategic bombing. It was founded during World war I, on April 1, 1918, by the unification of the Royal Naval Air Services and Royal Flying Corps. The RAF is one of the most technologically sophisticated and capable air forces in the world, the largest air force in the European Union, and the second largest in NATO, only after United States Air Force.

user posted image
3. Israel Airforce (Israel)
Size: 34,000 active personnel, 55,000 reserve personnel, 736 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Boeing F-15I Ra'am
Fighter: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle, General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon
Patrol: IAI Seascan, Eurocopter Panther
Reconnaissance: IAI Eitam, Beechcraft RC-12D,
Trainer: Grob G-120, Beechcraft T-6 Texan II, McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Beechcraft C-12 Huron, Bell 206
Transport: Boeing 707-320, Lockheed C-130 Hercules, Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion, Sikorsky S-70
Tanker: Lockheed KC-130 Hercules, Boeing KC-707

Israel is a nation whose survival depends on its aerial dominance over the skies of Middle East. Fortunately for the Israelites, they indeed do have one of the world's strongest airforce. Founded on May 28, 1948 shortly after Israel declared its Independence, this air force had repeatedly exhibited its power to knock down its opponents. Creativity and resourcefulness were the early foundations of Israeli military success in the air.

The IAF is considered to be one of the most effective airforces in the world. IAF pilots went through some of the most toughest training in the world, and are considered to be of a very high standard, with very large fleet of modern aircrafts specially designed to meet Israel's strategic maneuvers. It is one of the most technologically advanced airforces equipped with Boeing F-15 E Strike Eagle and a bevy of fighter, patrol, trainer and transport aircrafts.

user posted image
2. Russian Airforce (Russia)
Size 180,000 personnel, 4,500 aircrafts
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Sukhoi Su-24/25/34
Fighter: Sukhoi Su-27/30/35, Mikoyan MiG-29
Interceptor: Mikoyan MiG-31
Bomber: Tupolev Tu-22M/95/106
Transport: Antonov An-22/12/72/24/26, Ilyushin Il-76
Special Aircraft: Ilyushin Il-20/62/72/78/80, Tupolev Tu-154, Antonov An-148/140, Tupolev Tu-154, Beriev A-50, Be-200, Mikoyan MiG-25, Yakovlev Yak-40, Let L-410 Turbolet
Trainer: Yakovlev Yak-130, Aero L-39 Albatros, Tupolev Tu-134
Helicopter: Kamov Ka-50/28/29/226/52, Mil Mi-24/35/25/28/8/17/26/2, Kazan Ansat, PZL Mi-2
UAV: Yakovlev Pchela, REIS-D, IAI Searcher

The characteristics of Russian air power is still undetermined due to its secretive nature. However, with amazingly effective doctrine and mechanized defense, the Russian Airforce possesses the ability to maneuver in any kind of terrain. Notable for implementing beyond-the-limit strategy with the weirdest technologies, this air force founded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991-92 has rebuilt itself to be the second most powerful in the world.

user posted image
1. United States Airforce (United States)
Size: 332,854 active personnel, 185,522 civilian personnel, 71,400 reserve personnel, 106,700 air guard personnel, 5,484 aircraft, 450 ICBMs, 63 satellites
Type of Aircraft
Attack: A-10 Thunderbolt II, Lockheed AC-130
Bomber: Stratofortress B-52H, B-1B Lancer, Northrup Grumman B-2
Electronic warfare: E-3 Sentry, E-8 Joint-STARS, EC-130
Fighter: McDonnell-Douglas F-15C, F-15E Strike Eagle , General Dynamics F-16, Lockheed F-22
Helicopter: UH-1N Twin Huey, HH-60 Pave Hawk
Reconnaissance: Lockheed U-2, Boeing RC-135, MC-12 Liberty, RQ/MQ-1 Predator, Global Hawk RQ-4, Lockheed Martin RQ-170
Trainer: T-6 Texan II, T-38 Taylon, T-1 Jayhawk, LET TG-10
Transport: C-130 Hercules, C-135, C-5 Galaxy, McDonnel Douglas C-9, C-17 Globemaster III, VC-25, Boeing C-32, C-37 Gulfstream, C-21 Learjet, C-12 Huron, C-40 Clipper, CV-22 Osprey
Tanker: KC-10 Extender, KC-135 Stratotanker

Ruler of global skies, the USAF was founded on September 11, 1947, with the motto No One Comes Close. Indeed, even the second runner-up Russian airforce still has quite some distance to catch up with its American counterpart today. The USAF is among the most technologically advanced air forces in the world. As of 2010, the UASF operates 5,573 manned aircraft in service, approximately 180 unmanned combat air vehicles, 2,130 air-launched cruise missiles and 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles, giving it the largest number of warplanes in the world.

The United States has been involved in many wars, conflicts using military air operations. The members of USAF are very health conscious, adopting a stringent physical fitness assessment. Together with its navies, also the most powerful in the world, the U.S. airforce is capable to project its air power deep into any country, anywhere on earth.


Source:

http://www.siliconindia.com/news/general/1...6685-cid-1.html

http://topyaps.com/top-10-strongest-air-forces-of-the-world/
TearsRainzz
post Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
104 posts

Joined: Oct 2011
lol, Malaysia No. 1 la, no engine punya air jet you pernah tengok a?
ander7724
post Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
242 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Si Sa Ket


not yet including ultraman and gundam...
napoli26
post Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM

kena toto 6/58
*******
Senior Member
2,301 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: android#[me@linuxbox me]$ my_location


indon haze >>> all
SUSstrikeuk
post Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
439 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



Malaysia last la
enjin pun tarak mcm mana mau terbang
orang sulu guna bot pun boleh invade our country
tarak guna punya...ptui!!
SUSpatheon17
post Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
123 posts

Joined: May 2013


US wont last long though

soon china n russia will b no 1
SUSSKY233
post Jun 24 2013, 12:20 PM

u x sukak u keluar
*****
Senior Member
875 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
From: :hehe:

QUOTE(napoli26 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM)
indon haze >>> all
*
jimmysee
post Jun 24 2013, 12:20 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
78 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(TearsRainzz @ Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM)
lol, Malaysia No. 1 la, no engine punya air jet you pernah tengok a?
*
lol
peinsama
post Jun 24 2013, 12:21 PM

Au fait
*****
Senior Member
725 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


that day i watched man of steel,

tarak sangka they use A-10 thunderbolt to do strafing and to bombard.
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 12:24 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 24 2013, 12:21 PM)
that day i watched man of steel,

tarak sangka they use A-10 thunderbolt to do strafing and to bombard.
*
that is the most balance and precise plane for CAS with one of the most powerfull gun in the world

btw maybe in 5 to 10 years time we can see Saudi and Turkey in the list
SUShambaallah
post Jun 24 2013, 12:26 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
16 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
imagine the maintenance money being use for other useful thing instead
peinsama
post Jun 24 2013, 12:27 PM

Au fait
*****
Senior Member
725 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 12:24 PM)
that is the most balance and precise plane for CAS with one of the most powerfull gun in the world

btw maybe in 5 to 10 years time we can see Saudi and Turkey in the list
*
geah, i thought they will use roflcopter or apache ke...

mana tahu, A-10 tapi sayangnya didnt' work. lol

This post has been edited by peinsama: Jun 24 2013, 12:27 PM
Mustadio
post Jun 24 2013, 12:29 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
10 posts

Joined: Dec 2008



user posted image

Aurora in flight

Avionics online

Supersonic aircraft
fridel
post Jun 24 2013, 12:31 PM

kuran ka? ok e oi?
******
Senior Member
1,659 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
From: the tip of borneo
RIP TUDM
ah_suknat
post Jun 24 2013, 12:31 PM

whoooooooooooooop
*******
Senior Member
5,170 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
From: /k//k/, /k/undasang



still cant beat UFO lazor pew pew pew
choyster
post Jun 24 2013, 12:39 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,802 posts

Joined: May 2006


thank god there is one middle east country there
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 12:46 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(choyster @ Jun 24 2013, 12:39 PM)
thank god there is one middle east country there
*
And its Israel lol. laugh.gif

Actually, most of the oil exporting Middle-East countries have procured modern fighters as well from the US/UK, and France. Its just that their pilots as well as support personnel are nowhere near as capable as Israel's.
simpul
post Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
326 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Denai Alam



japan shud include their gundam.... air supremacy yoh
MR_alien
post Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM

Mr.Alien on the loss
*******
Senior Member
3,581 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: everywhere in sabah



China : 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
fuhh..so many
un.deux.trois
post Jun 24 2013, 12:48 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
679 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
america f*** yeahh!
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 12:49 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 12:46 PM)
And its Israel lol. laugh.gif

Actually, most of the oil exporting Middle-East countries have procured modern fighters as well from the US/UK, and France. Its just that their pilots as well as support personnel are nowhere near as capable as Israel's.
*
maybe in 5 years or more, the Saudi AF will be one of the formidable air forces in the world
they are procuring like they have lost their turban or something

when talk about the best and hardened pilot the 2 country still will be Turkey and Greek
although don't know if the Greek are still fly
styrwr91
post Jun 24 2013, 12:50 PM

~ON THE WAY~
****
Senior Member
696 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
air force, if include mobile suit corps Japan no1 liao
Naitanui
post Jun 24 2013, 12:52 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
20 posts

Joined: May 2013
From: Melbourne


Australian airforce: Mainly to stop future Indonesian invasion. (and refugees)

This post has been edited by Naitanui: Jun 24 2013, 12:52 PM
ozak
post Jun 24 2013, 12:52 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
17,018 posts

Joined: Jan 2005


QUOTE(TearsRainzz @ Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM)
lol, Malaysia No. 1 la, no engine punya air jet you pernah tengok a?
*
Malaysia punya no engine jet combine dengan tak boleh tenggelam punya submarine = deadliest power. Don't play play. tongue.gif
ah_suknat
post Jun 24 2013, 12:52 PM

whoooooooooooooop
*******
Senior Member
5,170 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
From: /k//k/, /k/undasang



QUOTE(Mustadio @ Jun 24 2013, 04:29 AM)
user posted image

Aurora in flight

Avionics online

Supersonic aircraft
*
still f***ing playing this
choyster
post Jun 24 2013, 12:53 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,802 posts

Joined: May 2006


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 12:49 PM)
maybe in 5 years or more, the Saudi AF will be one of the formidable air forces in the world
they are procuring like they have lost their turban or something

when talk about the best and hardened pilot the 2 country still will be Turkey and Greek
although don't know if the Greek are still fly
*
Do greeks have money to fuel their jets? biggrin.gif
ozak
post Jun 24 2013, 12:54 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
17,018 posts

Joined: Jan 2005


QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM)
China : 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
fuhh..so many
*
Cheap labour ?
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 12:58 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 12:46 PM)
And its Israel lol. laugh.gif

Actually, most of the oil exporting Middle-East countries have procured modern fighters as well from the US/UK, and France. Its just that their pilots as well as support personnel are nowhere near as capable as Israel's.
*
Saddam once had the most powerful armies in the Arab world, 5th largest globally to be precise, with modern weapons armed and supplied by both the US and USSR. But then Iran-Iraq war came and exposed that his soldiers mostly dunno how to operate the technologies.

Nowadays most Middle East countries keep buying weapons from US & EU, but inside they are just paper tigers. We all know that nod.gif People who aren't sure how to build robust economies if fight a protract war will ended up like the USSR (i.e. financial ruin)
Naitanui
post Jun 24 2013, 12:59 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
20 posts

Joined: May 2013
From: Melbourne


Its not a matter of aircraft only....

saudi may get the technology but if their pilots suck they'll be like any arab/middle east country that faces up to the West/Israel.
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 01:01 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 24 2013, 12:54 PM)
Cheap labour ?
*
Cannon fodder. nod.gif
mirage2000
post Jun 24 2013, 01:09 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
28 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: USJ


QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 12:58 PM)
Saddam once had the most powerful armies in the Arab world, 5th largest globally to be precise, with modern weapons armed and supplied by both the US and USSR. But then Iran-Iraq war came and exposed that his soldiers mostly dunno how to operate the technologies.

Nowadays most Middle East countries keep buying weapons from US & EU, but inside they are just paper tigers. We all know that nod.gif People who aren't sure how to build robust economies if fight a protract war will ended up like the USSR (i.e. financial ruin)
*
last time arab war even need soviet pilots to pilot them yet still get pwned by the IDF pilots
gestapo
post Jun 24 2013, 01:10 PM

Full HD Post Count
******
Senior Member
1,160 posts

Joined: Dec 2004
From: Subang Jaya USJ



QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM)
China : 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
fuhh..so many
*
gomen mah
rcracer
post Jun 24 2013, 01:11 PM

?????
*******
Senior Member
3,772 posts

Joined: Jan 2003

Mitsu jet got MIVEC?
netmatrix2
post Jun 24 2013, 01:14 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
481 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
QUOTE(napoli26 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM)
indon haze >>> all
*
Yes the ultra best weapon. Kills slowly, not just human but economic as well. Does not need high workforce and low cost to deploy. And no country can retaliate because haze is not classified as biological weapon. Indo has the best weapon.
seather
post Jun 24 2013, 01:15 PM

xXxXxXxXx
******
Senior Member
1,335 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


sheer number gives an advantage to a certain point only... training counts a lot

if u study the Arab Israel Six Day war, due to extensive training of the ground crew, a single Israel aircraft can sortie up to 4 times per day, compared to 1~2 times per day for the Arab air forces... hence Israel total dominance of the air and near total destruction of the Egyptian/Syrian air force...




SUSmemekfalui
post Jun 24 2013, 01:17 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
245 posts

Joined: Oct 2004


QUOTE(hambaallah @ Jun 24 2013, 12:26 PM)
imagine the maintenance money being use for other useful thing instead
*
What are the "useful thing instead" when security of your country easily from breach by army of misfit?
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 01:19 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(hambaallah @ Jun 24 2013, 12:26 PM)
imagine the maintenance money being use for other useful thing instead
*
Singapore allocates and spend so much more in military than Malaysia. Yet economic-wise they are still better?
Lord Tiki Mick
post Jun 24 2013, 01:22 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,020 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 12:46 PM)
And its Israel lol. laugh.gif

Actually, most of the oil exporting Middle-East countries have procured modern fighters as well from the US/UK, and France. Its just that their pilots as well as support personnel are nowhere near as capable as Israel's.
*
You sure? I heard arabs pilots are among the craziest. Search youtube. hmm.gif
Human Nature
post Jun 24 2013, 01:23 PM

- student of human nature -
*********
All Stars
26,525 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
what are kinetic and non-kinetic air effects?
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 01:23 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 01:22 PM)
You sure? I heard arabs pilots are among the craziest. Search youtube. hmm.gif
*
Crazy does not necessarily mean combat effective. It just means they are crazy.
Lord Tiki Mick
post Jun 24 2013, 01:23 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,020 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 01:19 PM)
Singapore allocates and spend so much more in military than Malaysia. Yet economic-wise they are still better?
*
I we are going to do the same, the people will rage say songlap la apa la. When not listed will give degrading comments. Ptuih!
clouds
post Jun 24 2013, 01:26 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
318 posts

Joined: Jan 2009
From: Grave



Indonesia pawns all...itu jerebu WMD indonesia punya version
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 01:33 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 01:23 PM)
I we are going to do the same, the people will rage say songlap la apa la. When not listed will give degrading comments. Ptuih!
*
Malaysian budget deficit is already among the worst in Southeast Asia. Do the same with Singapore?
deodorant
post Jun 24 2013, 01:34 PM

Surfing LYN instead of Working.
*******
Senior Member
5,691 posts

Joined: Mar 2006


still waiting for gundam or macross style aircraft
MamulaMoon
post Jun 24 2013, 01:39 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
QUOTE(TearsRainzz @ Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM)
lol, Malaysia No. 1 la, no engine punya air jet you pernah tengok a?
*
no engine.... lol... biggrin.gif
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 01:39 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(choyster @ Jun 24 2013, 12:53 PM)
Do greeks have money to fuel their jets? biggrin.gif
*
that's why I asked if the greek still fly tongue.gif

QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 24 2013, 01:09 PM)
last time arab war even need soviet pilots to pilot them yet still get pwned by the IDF pilots
*
while most of the IDF pilot were screwed by Pakistani pilot in a borrowed aircraft!
napoli26
post Jun 24 2013, 02:19 PM

kena toto 6/58
*******
Senior Member
2,301 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: android#[me@linuxbox me]$ my_location


QUOTE(netmatrix2 @ Jun 24 2013, 01:14 PM)
Yes the ultra best weapon. Kills slowly, not just human but economic as well. Does not need high workforce and low cost to deploy. And no country can retaliate because haze is not classified as biological weapon. Indo has the best weapon.
*
if these haze carry on, soon indon will replace america laugh.gif
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 04:32 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


LOL.

Indonesia: Yea.... Haze attack!

America: Don't be silly boy, you know I'm capable to engineer natural earthquakes biggrin.gif

user posted image
LamboSama
post Jun 24 2013, 04:37 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
769 posts

Joined: Aug 2011
QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 01:22 PM)
You sure? I heard arabs pilots are among the craziest. Search youtube. hmm.gif
*
they are like rempit.
put rempit in actual race with trained riders.
they'll lose hands down. laugh.gif
robertngo
post Jun 24 2013, 04:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,027 posts

Joined: Oct 2004


kneel before zod!

user posted image
Rhadykall
post Jun 24 2013, 04:42 PM

After 9 years only can modify
****
Senior Member
590 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
From: Mother Russia!


QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jun 24 2013, 12:31 PM)
still cant beat UFO lazor pew pew pew
*
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 04:48 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 01:39 PM)
while most of the IDF pilot were screwed by Pakistani pilot in a borrowed aircraft!
Very good servants, I wonder if they will serve their country's new economic master, China, as good as that laugh.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2731347/all
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 04:52 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 04:48 PM)
Very good servants, I wonder if they will serve their country's new economic master, China, as good as that laugh.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2731347/all
*
infact that time the Pakistani Pilots are very good, even with the lack of resource nod.gif
china_dude 02
post Jun 24 2013, 04:55 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
633 posts

Joined: Jan 2011
us powah!!!!
sweat.gif
d33pbluez
post Jun 24 2013, 04:55 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
559 posts

Joined: Mar 2005



QUOTE(simpul @ Jun 24 2013, 01:47 PM)
japan shud include their gundam.... air supremacy yoh
*
you mean this ?

user posted image
simpul
post Jun 24 2013, 04:58 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
326 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Denai Alam



QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 24 2013, 04:55 PM)
you mean this ?

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
hahah somewhat liddat also la
Mech Warrior 6
post Jun 24 2013, 05:03 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: May 2012
QUOTE(robertngo @ Jun 24 2013, 04:39 PM)
kneel before zod!

user posted image
*
win!
even supraman got difficulty handling this..!
Avangelice
post Jun 24 2013, 05:06 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


Scrolled down expecting USA to be in NO.1. Wasn't disappointed.
SUSAxeFire
post Jun 24 2013, 05:10 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
368 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
From: Penang
USA sucks compared to Zod and his planes
Mech Warrior 6
post Jun 24 2013, 05:13 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: May 2012
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jun 24 2013, 01:34 PM)
still waiting for gundam or macross style aircraft
*
macross lookalike craft early early got d...the f14. but i think it's macross copy f14..
and now f14 retired also d...

And recently russian's pak-fa looks like macross yf-24 (VF22?)...


Macross VF-22/YF-24 :
user posted image


Russian Pak Fa :
user posted image





SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 05:16 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 04:52 PM)
infact that time the Pakistani Pilots are very good, even with the lack of resource  nod.gif
*
Pakistan has long been dominated by military government known for instilling strict discipline, so it's expected they will produce some talented personnel. However, without a strong economy you simply cannot do much. Pakistan's military suffers deterioration since its economy declined in late 1960s. The 1947 and 1965 wars with India were fought to a stalemate. After that, the 1971 and 1999 wars with India were defeats.

Now it is a nation that 'beg for cash from Saudi', 'beg for investment from China', and 'beg for aid from the US'. It is so dangerous to let one of Asia's most underdeveloped country control an arsenal of nukes. That is the case for Pakistan and in fact most other Middle East, they cannot balance military and economy, and hence cannot survive in a fight for long. They cannot be like Taiwan or South Korea who can build up strong defense against external threats and at the same time develop vibrant economies.

This post has been edited by rivost: Jun 24 2013, 05:23 PM
Mech Warrior 6
post Jun 24 2013, 05:16 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: May 2012
QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 24 2013, 12:27 PM)
geah, i thought they will use roflcopter or apache ke...

mana tahu, A-10 tapi sayangnya didnt' work. lol
*

itu ah-64 takde speed as fast as a-10 ma...







QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 24 2013, 12:47 PM)
China : 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
fuhh..so many
*
considering PRC china has 1,330,000,000 population...that's not even 0.5%...
debbierowe
post Jun 24 2013, 05:18 PM

so fast 6 stars di...
******
Senior Member
1,107 posts

Joined: May 2009
waste of time
afgan people just use your own country's commercial airplane to go blow up your own buildings
SUSGlockers
post Jun 24 2013, 05:22 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
169 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
From: Black Dragon River


North Korea mana? Kekekekeke
harryfoo
post Jun 24 2013, 05:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,296 posts

Joined: Feb 2010


QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 24 2013, 04:55 PM)
you mean this ?

user posted image
*
I'm still playing yo. Giga Fortress damn powderful yo.
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 05:26 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 05:16 PM)
Pakistan has long been dominated by military government known for instilling strict discipline, so it's expected they will produce some talented personnel. However, without a strong economy you simply cannot do much. Pakistan's military suffers deterioration since its economy declined in late 1960s. The 1947 and 1965 wars with India were fought to a stalemate. After that, the 1971 and 1999 wars with India were defeats.

Now it is a nation that 'beg for cash from Saudi', 'beg for investment from China', and 'beg for aid from the US'. It is so dangerous to let one of Asia's most underdeveloped country control an arsenal of nukes.
*
Correct, until now their surface warfare school is still recognize as one of the best in the commonwealth!
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 05:38 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 05:26 PM)
Correct, until now their surface warfare school is still recognize as one of the best in the commonwealth!
*
'Best' also no use, there is no pride at all when your country is subjected to regular foreign drone attacks. Zimbabwe's education system was once among the best in Africa, the country's professionals are highly regarded throughout Sub-Saharan Africa. But they are now left to rot with the country's failed economy.

Students from those schools will either 1.) allow themselves to degrade over time in the country's military or 2.) go to serve other nations as instructors, trainers or etc. Like many Pakistanis said, there is little hope for the nation and the people are bound to be servants for 10 generations.
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 05:55 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


Try to identify the nations who are safe from US air power biggrin.gif

user posted image
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 05:56 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 05:38 PM)
'Best' also no use, there is no pride at all when your country is subjected to regular foreign drone attacks. Zimbabwe's education system was once among the best in Africa, the country's professionals are highly regarded throughout Sub-Saharan Africa. But they are now left to rot with the country's failed economy.

Students from those schools will either 1.) allow themselves to degrade over time in the country's military or 2.) go to serve other nations as instructors, trainers or etc. Like many Pakistanis said, there is little hope for the nation and the people are bound to be servants for 10 generations.
*
it is hard to disagree with that!
Frostlord
post Jun 24 2013, 06:02 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,723 posts

Joined: Jun 2007


QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 24 2013, 12:27 PM)
geah, i thought they will use roflcopter or apache ke...

mana tahu, A-10 tapi sayangnya didnt' work. lol
*
ofc it didnt work. already classed the target as extremely dangerous, but dont want use missile. after fail 1st run, then only decide want to use missile. at that time they already lose the elements of surprise
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 06:18 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 01:23 PM)
I we are going to do the same, the people will rage say songlap la apa la. When not listed will give degrading comments. Ptuih!
*
What degrading comments? Anyone who expects Malaysia to be in any top 10 military list is an unrealistic idiot.

And, yeah...songlap is an issue. I wouldn't mind if they upped the budget for defense if only our army actually benefited from it. What does our army have? Submarines that can't submerge, helicopters that crash, overpriced patrol boats, etc. Why? Because of songlap. Simple as that. Everything that we buy also will go over budget for outdated crap. So no, I don't approve of additional spending...not unless we clear up the songlap issue first.
Lord Tiki Mick
post Jun 24 2013, 06:22 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,020 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 06:18 PM)
What degrading comments? Anyone who expects Malaysia to be in any top 10 military list is an unrealistic idiot.

And, yeah...songlap is an issue. I wouldn't mind if they upped the budget for defense if only our army actually benefited from it. What does our army have? Submarines that can't submerge, helicopters that crash, overpriced patrol boats, etc. Why? Because of songlap. Simple as that. Everything that we buy also will go over budget for outdated crap. So no, I don't approve of additional spending...not unless we clear up the songlap issue first.
*
Which submarines that can't submerge? Sorry I'm slow pork.
SUSBlackscreamerz
post Jun 24 2013, 06:25 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
121 posts

Joined: Apr 2011



Israel, salute
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 06:31 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 06:22 PM)
Which submarines that can't submerge? Sorry I'm slow pork.
*
Slow pork my foot. You know what I'm referring to. Yes, they probably rectified by now (I dunno, never bothered to stay updated) but that doesn't change the fact that they had problems initially. We overpaid for them and some poor Mongolian girl got blown up as part of the deal too.

Oh, and I believe their purpose was to patrol the waters off the coast of Sabah. Not that I want to disparage the capabilities of our army, but seriously...what can 2 submarines do? We still got invaded anyway. One wonders if the budget couldn't have been spent on something more effective...like more fast patrol boats that are hopefully not overpriced.

Mech Warrior 6
post Jun 24 2013, 06:33 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: May 2012
QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 06:22 PM)
Which submarines that can't submerge? Sorry I'm slow pork.
*
Zahid : Our submarine can't dive

after some repair only can dive..which took roughly 1.5yrs..
Lord Tiki Mick
post Jun 24 2013, 06:35 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,020 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 06:31 PM)
Slow pork my foot. You know what I'm referring to. Yes, they probably rectified by now (I dunno, never bothered to stay updated) but that doesn't change the fact that they had problems initially. We overpaid for them and some poor Mongolian girl got blown up as part of the deal too.

Oh, and I believe their purpose was to patrol the waters off the coast of Sabah. Not that I want to disparage the capabilities of our army, but seriously...what can 2 submarines do? We still got invaded anyway. One wonders if the budget couldn't have been spent on something more effective...like more fast patrol boats that are hopefully not overpriced.
*
They patrol other place one maybe. Like Spratly islands. Submarine only how much, how to patrol whole sabah coasts? sweat.gif

arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 06:51 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 24 2013, 06:35 PM)
They patrol other place one maybe. Like Spratly islands. Submarine only how much, how to patrol whole sabah coasts?  sweat.gif
*
Yeah, 2 submarines will scare off the Chinese navy.

Like it or not, we are going to be bullied out of the Spratlys by China. There's just no way around it. Even if all of SEA were to pull together their resources, we won't be able to match China and this assumes we can even cooperate with each other considering that each and every country also lays its own claim to those islands.
UniqueSweet
post Jun 24 2013, 06:55 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
1 posts

Joined: Apr 2013
All suck

No jet can compete with B2

user posted image



Lord Tiki Mick
post Jun 24 2013, 06:55 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,020 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 24 2013, 06:51 PM)
Yeah, 2 submarines will scare off the Chinese navy.

Like it or not, we are going to be bullied out of the Spratlys by China. There's just no way around it. Even if all of SEA were to pull together their resources, we won't be able to match China and this assumes we can even cooperate with each other considering that each and every country also lays its own claim to those islands.
*
Wah, China so powderful. notworthy.gif
zachozoi
post Jun 24 2013, 06:59 PM

u come at the king, u best not miss
*****
Senior Member
748 posts

Joined: Apr 2012
From: Planet Earth



everytime i see top 10's in the world thread, india is there..top 10 millitary, airforce, movies, best brain's etc etc but still yet named as developing and poor nation despite having all the powers to become super power..some serious shit is wrong with the goverment i think...
coldogno7
post Jun 24 2013, 07:05 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
51 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: pj


meanwhile malaysia....some [] dont want to join army
arubin
post Jun 24 2013, 07:10 PM

Holy Pastafarian
****
Senior Member
670 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
From: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


QUOTE(zachozoi @ Jun 24 2013, 06:59 PM)
everytime i see top 10's in the world thread, india is there..top 10 millitary, airforce, movies, best brain's etc etc but still yet named as developing and poor nation despite having all the powers to become super power..some serious shit is wrong with the goverment i think...
*
Because it has a large population of which most are still living in poverty.

Developed nation status is accorded based on average GDP per capita. The majority of the country's citizens must have a high standard of living in order to be considered as developed. That is not the case with India, nor is it even with China. Note that while China's GDP has indeed overtaken Japan, its GDP per capita lags far behind.
SUSMy Name is Sheila
post Jun 24 2013, 07:14 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
13 posts

Joined: Sep 2011


QUOTE(patheon17 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM)
US wont last long though

soon china n russia will b no 1
*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 07:42 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(patheon17 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:19 PM)
US wont last long though

soon china n russia will b no 1
*
that is not true, most military analysts agreed that the US will maintain its air dominance for at least another 30 yrs minimum.
mirage2000
post Jun 24 2013, 07:43 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
28 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: USJ


QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 24 2013, 01:39 PM)
that's why I asked if the greek still fly  tongue.gif
while most of the IDF pilot were screwed by Pakistani pilot in a borrowed aircraft!
*
they are good but still not good enough to achieve air superiority
SUSAxeFire
post Jun 24 2013, 07:44 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
368 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
From: Penang
QUOTE(coldogno7 @ Jun 24 2013, 07:05 PM)
meanwhile malaysia....some [] dont want to join army
*
sad but true
ash50210
post Jun 24 2013, 07:45 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
96 posts

Joined: Nov 2009


malaysia got robot pasific rim. can tapau all airfoce jet hehe
UniqueSweet
post Jun 24 2013, 07:48 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
1 posts

Joined: Apr 2013
QUOTE(My Name is Sheila @ Jun 24 2013, 07:14 PM)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*
you can laugh but if US is not superpower anymore, you will fkkin cry like shits cos you will be following the way china & russia do things, china = russia = north korea


and you need to talk & write chinese/russian surf the net with all that instead of english

user posted image

This post has been edited by UniqueSweet: Jun 24 2013, 07:49 PM
faridr
post Jun 24 2013, 08:06 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
214 posts

Joined: May 2011
From: here
I remember seeing eurofighter typhoon documentary, collaboration between france, german and england. So why france dont have them? weird
mirage2000
post Jun 24 2013, 08:07 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
28 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: USJ


QUOTE(faridr @ Jun 24 2013, 08:06 PM)
I remember seeing eurofighter typhoon documentary, collaboration between france, german and england. So why france dont have them? weird
*
france left the JV and develop its own
chinti
post Jun 24 2013, 08:13 PM

Tarak Drama, Kita Bikin Drama
******
Senior Member
1,653 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
From: My Fantasy World



japan din showcase their gundam and eva yet
ichi_24
post Jun 24 2013, 08:23 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: /K/opitiam



QUOTE(ander7724 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:16 PM)
not yet including ultraman and gundam...
*
SUSpatheon17
post Jun 24 2013, 08:27 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
123 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 07:42 PM)
that is not true, most military analysts agreed that the US will maintain its air dominance for at least another 30 yrs minimum.
*
wat i was saying is a china n russia alliance, if both of them join forces they cn give US a very strong challenge n might even b able to defeat US airforce. definitely china or russia alone cannot do it

russia n china will soon launch their 5th gen fighter aircrafts n dat time US will b in deep shiat, both china n russia increasing defence budget, while US is cutting, n even their F-35 aircrafts full of problems n cannot b used, nw they oni hav f-22 raptors n a bunch of f-16s n hornets, they need to faster fix the f-35 jet problems...
SUSrivost
post Jun 24 2013, 08:30 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


QUOTE(patheon17 @ Jun 24 2013, 08:27 PM)
wat i was saying is a china n russia alliance, if both of them join forces they cn give US a very strong challenge n might even b able to defeat US airforce. definitely china or russia alone cannot do it

russia n china will soon launch their 5th gen fighter aircrafts n dat time US will b in deep shiat, both china n russia increasing defence budget, while US is cutting, n even their F-35 aircrafts full of problems n cannot b used, nw they oni hav f-22 raptors n a bunch of f-16s n hornets, they need to faster fix the f-35 jet problems...
*
If an alliance group is considered then China & Russia may be overwhelmed, because allies of the US include NATO, Japan and Australia - 5 of them in the list.
izutaisa
post Jun 24 2013, 08:35 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
21 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: /k/
QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 12:15 PM)
credit to mevotex@miricommunity.net


10. Japan Air Self Defense Force (Japan)
Size: 45,000 personnel, 791 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Mitsubishi F-2
Electronic warfare: Boeing E-767, Kawasaki EC-1, E-2C Hawkeye
Fighter: F-4 Phantom II, Mitsubishi F-15J, Mitsubishi F-2
Helicopter: UH-60J Black Hawk, Boeing CH-47J Chinook, KV-107 Sea Knight
Interceptor: Mitsubishi F-15J
Trainer: Mitsubishi F-15DJ, Fuji T-7, Hawker T-400, Kawasaki T-4
Transport  Kawasaki C-1, Boeing KC-767J, Hercules C-130H

After World War II, JASDF was planted in 1954, as an unified form of Imperial Japanese Army Air Service and Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service. Now the aviation branch of Japan Self-Defense Force, JASDF is one of the sharpest tool, responsible for the defense of Japanese airspace and other aerospace operations. With an impeccable array of ultramodern radar systems (Basic Air Defense Ground Environment) and combat air patrols, JASDF is widely known for its assaulter squadrons in the list of strongest air forces of the world.

user posted image
9. Royal Australian Airforce (Australia)
Size: 17,375 personnel, 275 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Electronic warfare: Boeing 737 AEW&C
Fighter: F/A-18 Hornet, F/A-18F Super Hornet
Patrol: AP-3C Orion
Reconnaissance: Heron UAV
Trainer: Pilatus PC-9, BAE Hawk 127, Beechcraft B300
Transport: C-130 Hercules, C-17 Globemaster III, Boeing 737, Beechcraft B300, Bombardier Challenger 600, Airbus A330 MRTT

Comparatively small but tremendously deadly, RAAF was established on March 31, 1921, and till the date it has majorly participated in some of the deadliest conflicts of 20th century including World War 2, The Korean War and the Vietnam War.  Comprising of a powerful fighter fleet along with sophisticated technology, RAAF is credited for its abilities to immediately implement the kinetic and non-kinetic air effects.

user posted image
8. Luftwaffe (Germany)
Size: Size  32,111 personnel, 428 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Panavia Tornado IDS
Electronic warfare: Panavia Tornado ECR
Fighter: McDonnel-Douglas, F-4 Phantom II, Eurofighter Typhoon
Trainer: Northrop T-38 Talon, Grob G-120, T-6 Texan
Transport: Bombardier Global Express 5000, Airbus A310, Airbus A319, Airbus A340, Eurocopter Cougar, Transall C-160

One of the most striking air force with the trail of top-notch pilots, Luftwaffe was established in 1935, after violating the Treaty of Versailles. During the World War II, this air force overshadowed the skies of continental Europe and defeated its foreign counterparts with its technological edge. After the war, the Luftwaffe was re-established in 1956 and remains as the German Air Force to the present day. In 2005 and 2008, Luftwaffe fighter planes took part in the Baltic Air Policing operation of NATO. To support military operations in Afghanistan, the Luftwaffe had also sent over several war planes in 2006.

user posted image
7. Indian Airforce (India)
Size: 127,000 personnel, 1,370 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Jaguar SEPECAT, MiG-27, IAI Harpy
Fighter: MiG-21, Mirage 2000, MiG-29, Su-30MKI, HAL Tejas
Helicopter: Dhruv, Chetak, Cheetah, Mil Mi-8, Mil Mi-17, Mil Mi-26, Mil Mi-25/35, AgustaWestland AW101
Reconnaissance: IAI Searcher II, IAI Heron
Trainer: HPT-32 Deepak, HJT-16 Kiran, Hawk Mk 132, Pilatus C-7 Mk II
Transport: C-17 Globemaster III, Il-76, An-32, HS 748, Do 228, Boeing 737, Embraer ERJ 135, Il-78 MKI, C-130J

Considered one of the best equipped air force across the world along with professional standards, the Indian Airforce was founded on October 8, 1932, and since then it has been in the limelight of mainstream media for its logical expansion and modernization. In term of size, it is the fourth largest airforce in the world with approximately 127,000 personnel and 1,370 aircraft, though it still lag behind major rivals in technological upper-hand and quality of pilots.

Since Independence, the Indian Air Force had been involved in several wars, one with neighboring Pakistan and one with the People's Republic of China. Other major operations undertaken by IAF are Operation Vijay- the invasion of Goa, Operation Meghdoot and Operation Cactus. The IAF had also been an active participant in United Nations peace keeping mission. During the Kargil War of 1999, the Indian Air Force had provided close air support to the Indian Army with the use of helicopters.

user posted image
6. Armee de I'Air (France)
Size: 49,827 regular personnel, 634 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Dassault Rafale C, Dassault Rafale B,
Combat: Dassault Mirage 2000 5F/C/D/B/N, Mirage F1 CR & CT
Reconnaissance: Boeing E-3 Sentry, Transall C-160
Transport: Transall C-160, Airbus A330 MRTT, CASA/IPTN CN-235, Lockheed C-130 Hercules, Transall C-160, Transall C-160, Airbus A400M Atlas, Airbus A340, Airbus A310
Helicopter: Eurocopter EC725 Caracal, Eurocopter AS532 Cougar, Eurocopter AS555 Fennec, Aérospatiale SA330 Puma
Utility: De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otter
Trainer: Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet, Embraer EMB 121 Xingu, Jodel D.140, Socata TB 30 Epsilon, Walter Extra 300
UAV: EADS Harfang

Founded in 1909 as the air force of the French Armed Forces, Armee de l'Air is considered as the world's first professional air force. Dating back to history, the French had taken active interest in developing the air force from 1909. In the post-World War 2 era, the French made a successful effort to develop a domestic aircraft industry, creating the Mirage series of jet fighters, one of the most admired aircraft in the history of military aviation.

Buff of technological developments, methodical defensive strategies and straightforward doctrine of ruling skies, this air force is better known for comprising new generation multirole combat airplanes. Currently the French Air Force is expanding their numbers in aircrafts, it has 234 combat aircraft with the majority being 158 Dassault Mirage 2000 and 59 Dassault Rafale. There are a total of nearly 700 aircraft in service.

user posted image
5. People Liberation Army Airforce (China)
Size: 330,000 active personnel, 2,500+ aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Nanchang Q-5, Xian JH-7
Bomber: Xian JH-7, Xian H-6
Electronic warfare: KJ-200, KJ-2000.
Fighter: Shenyan J-11, Chendu J-10, Shenyan J-8II, Chendu J-7, Su-27, Su-30
Interceptor: Shenyan J-8II
Trainer: Hongdu L-15, Hongdu JL-8, JL-9
Transport: Shanxi Y-9, Shanxi Y-8, Antonov Y-7, Il-76

With a long list of more than 330,000 personnel and 2,500+ aircrafts, PLAAF is the largest and most powerful airforce in Asia and is better known for comprising some of the deadliest self-reliance combat aircrafts. The PLAAF was founded with Soviet assistance on November 1, 1949, shortly after the formation of People's Republic of China. Referring to the history, the PLAAF had fought the Korean War in Soviet built MiG-15, known as the J-2 in Chinese service, with training from Soviet instructors. With the withdrawal of Soviet aid due to the Sino-Soviet split, the airforce had made serious efforts to raise the educational level and improve the training of their pilots. After the fall of USSR, Russia became China's principal arm suppliers. Today, the Chinese airforce has built up its own qualitative edge in modern air striking capabilities.

user posted image
4. Royal Airforce (United Kingdom)
Size: 827 aircraft, 38,520 regular and RAuxAF, 33,380 regular reserve
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Panavia Tornado GR4, Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4, General Atomics Reaper MQ-9
Electronic warfare: Boeing E-3 Sentry
Fighter: Eurofighter Typhoon F2
Helicopter: Boeing Chinook, AugustaWestland Merlin, Aerospatiale Puma, Westland Sea King, Griffin HAR2
Interceptor: Eurofighter Typhoon
Reconnaissance: Britten Norman Islander, Beechcraft Shadow R1, Raytheon Sentinel R1, General Atomics Reaper, Panavia Tornado GR4A
Trainer: BAE Hawk, Beechcraft King Air, Eurocopter Squirrel, Short Tucano, Grob Tutor, Grob Vigilant, Grob Viking
Transport: Boeing C-17, Lockheed Hercules C3, Lockheed Hercules C4 & C5, Lockheed Tristar, Vickers VC10, Airbus Voyager

The kingpin of British military history and the decision maker of some of the world's greatest conflicts, the RAF is the oldest independent airforce in the world which is renowned for its strategic bombing. It was founded during World war I, on April 1, 1918, by the unification of the Royal Naval Air Services and Royal Flying Corps. The RAF is one of the most technologically sophisticated and capable air forces in the world, the largest air force in the European Union, and the second largest in NATO, only after United States Air Force.

user posted image
3. Israel Airforce (Israel)
Size: 34,000 active personnel, 55,000 reserve personnel, 736 aircraft
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Boeing F-15I Ra'am
Fighter: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle, General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon
Patrol: IAI Seascan, Eurocopter Panther
Reconnaissance: IAI Eitam, Beechcraft RC-12D,
Trainer: Grob G-120, Beechcraft T-6 Texan II, McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Beechcraft C-12 Huron, Bell 206
Transport: Boeing 707-320, Lockheed C-130 Hercules, Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion, Sikorsky S-70
Tanker: Lockheed KC-130 Hercules, Boeing KC-707

Israel is a nation whose survival depends on its aerial dominance over the skies of Middle East. Fortunately for the Israelites, they indeed do have one of the world's strongest airforce. Founded on May 28, 1948 shortly after Israel declared its Independence, this air force had repeatedly exhibited its power to knock down its opponents. Creativity and resourcefulness were the early foundations of Israeli military success in the air.

The IAF is considered to be one of the most effective airforces in the world. IAF pilots went through some of the most toughest training in the world, and are considered to be of a very high standard, with very large fleet of modern aircrafts specially designed to meet Israel's strategic maneuvers. It is one of the most technologically advanced airforces equipped with Boeing F-15 E Strike Eagle and a bevy of fighter, patrol, trainer and transport aircrafts.

user posted image
2. Russian Airforce (Russia)
Size  180,000 personnel, 4,500 aircrafts
Type of Aircraft
Attack: Sukhoi Su-24/25/34
Fighter: Sukhoi Su-27/30/35, Mikoyan MiG-29
Interceptor: Mikoyan MiG-31
Bomber: Tupolev Tu-22M/95/106
Transport: Antonov An-22/12/72/24/26, Ilyushin Il-76
Special Aircraft: Ilyushin Il-20/62/72/78/80, Tupolev Tu-154, Antonov An-148/140, Tupolev Tu-154, Beriev A-50, Be-200, Mikoyan MiG-25, Yakovlev Yak-40, Let L-410 Turbolet
Trainer: Yakovlev Yak-130, Aero L-39 Albatros, Tupolev Tu-134
Helicopter: Kamov Ka-50/28/29/226/52, Mil Mi-24/35/25/28/8/17/26/2, Kazan Ansat, PZL Mi-2
UAV: Yakovlev Pchela, REIS-D, IAI Searcher

The characteristics of Russian air power is still undetermined due to its secretive nature. However, with amazingly effective doctrine and mechanized defense, the Russian Airforce possesses the ability to maneuver in any kind of terrain. Notable for implementing beyond-the-limit strategy with the weirdest technologies, this air force founded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991-92 has rebuilt itself to be the second most powerful in the world.

user posted image
1. United States Airforce (United States)
Size: 332,854 active personnel, 185,522 civilian personnel, 71,400 reserve personnel, 106,700 air guard personnel, 5,484 aircraft, 450 ICBMs, 63 satellites
Type of Aircraft
Attack: A-10 Thunderbolt II, Lockheed AC-130
Bomber: Stratofortress B-52H, B-1B Lancer, Northrup Grumman B-2
Electronic warfare: E-3 Sentry, E-8 Joint-STARS, EC-130
Fighter: McDonnell-Douglas F-15C, F-15E Strike Eagle , General Dynamics F-16, Lockheed F-22
Helicopter: UH-1N Twin Huey, HH-60 Pave Hawk
Reconnaissance: Lockheed U-2, Boeing RC-135, MC-12 Liberty, RQ/MQ-1 Predator, Global Hawk RQ-4, Lockheed Martin RQ-170
Trainer: T-6 Texan II, T-38 Taylon, T-1 Jayhawk, LET TG-10
Transport: C-130 Hercules, C-135, C-5 Galaxy, McDonnel Douglas C-9, C-17 Globemaster III, VC-25, Boeing C-32, C-37 Gulfstream, C-21 Learjet, C-12 Huron, C-40 Clipper, CV-22 Osprey
Tanker: KC-10 Extender, KC-135 Stratotanker

Ruler of global skies, the USAF was founded on September 11, 1947, with the motto No One Comes Close. Indeed, even the second runner-up Russian airforce still has quite some distance to catch up with its American counterpart today. The USAF is among the most technologically advanced air forces in the world. As of 2010, the UASF operates 5,573 manned aircraft in service, approximately 180 unmanned combat air vehicles, 2,130 air-launched cruise missiles and 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles, giving it the largest number of warplanes in the world.

The United States has been involved in many wars, conflicts using military air operations. The members of USAF are very health conscious, adopting a stringent physical fitness assessment. Together with its navies, also the most powerful in the world, the U.S. airforce is capable to project its air power deep into any country, anywhere on earth.
Source:

http://www.siliconindia.com/news/general/1...6685-cid-1.html

http://topyaps.com/top-10-strongest-air-forces-of-the-world/
*
all those power is powerless against japan air defense

user posted image
SUSpatheon17
post Jun 24 2013, 08:36 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
123 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(rivost @ Jun 24 2013, 08:30 PM)
If an alliance group is considered then China & Russia may be overwhelmed, because allies of the US include NATO, Japan and Australia - 5 of them in the list.
*
hmm.gif ya u r right, n even china's closest ally north korea is a piece of shiat, orait, US n its allies will dominate for another 100000000000 years rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
tednet
post Jun 24 2013, 08:38 PM

Waaalllaauuu
*****
Senior Member
952 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


our jet no need engine to fly lah...
atreyuangel
post Jun 24 2013, 09:58 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 24 2013, 07:43 PM)
they are good but still not good enough to achieve air superiority
*
Pilot factors alone are not enough to have dominance!

they endup losing anyway tongue.gif


QUOTE(tednet @ Jun 24 2013, 08:38 PM)
our jet no need engine to fly lah...
*
so explain how this MKM fly?





Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0400sec    0.46    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 9th December 2025 - 07:45 AM