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lucky206
post May 7 2007, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ May 7 2007, 01:12 AM)
count me in ....  whistling.gif dont mind being a beta tester .... brows.gif ... well u r using what brand as ur sip server? hwbout ur pstn gateway and ur routing hw??? care to share ??? and if anything that i can help u wz juz ask ....icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hello Cruzzmz,

Looking at "asterisk" running on Debian or SuSE server for sip. Looking to some sort of hardware to handle specific needs like DID calls etc (I think asterisk will do this as well; maybe we get some kind of quality/clarity benefit for running additional hardware for DID not sure on that yet). Also looking at xSip and one more. Testing different builds/configs probably for the next month or two. ATA's are optional plus at the preference of the end user. I'd imagine PaP2's and Zyxel Prestige 2000's (or models with similar chipsets) would either be sold direct to customer; given away for first 100 "beta testers"; or end user has to get but then can buy a bunch of minutes on discount or something. All that is "in the works" I guess you could say sweat.gif Keeping in mind I'm still n00b-ooty too VoIP and now were moving towards "back end" gear blink.gif which I'm no expert in wink.gif
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i think asterisk is a good choice ... do u planning to use the pstn voice card? if so u can connect it to ur phone line? or u r using PRI line that will cost a bomb but worth it is u r planning on using 30 ch per time ... i am no expert in back end oso but i think 1 of my friend have succesfully configure asterisk at his house ... for the DID i think if u got like lots of pstn numbers u can assign / map to ur DID ...
well again i have a PaP @ home collecting dust ... minest well i am up for the beta tester (for free of course) icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 9 2007, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ May 7 2007, 09:01 PM)
i think asterisk is a good choice ... do u planning to use the pstn voice card? if so u can connect it to ur phone line? or u r using PRI line that will cost a bomb but worth it is u r planning on using 30 ch per time ... i am no expert in back end oso but i think 1 of my friend have succesfully configure asterisk at his house ... for the DID i think if u got like lots of pstn numbers u can assign / map to ur DID ...
well again i have a PaP @ home collecting dust ... minest well i am up for the beta tester (for free of course) icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes, will be using cards to connect to PRI. Servers-CM most likely housed in DataCenter which of course would allow for PRI connections. I got a lot of "homework" to do as I'm I'm still unsure of what "connects" to "what". At the end of the day though I'm luv'in the challenge as I get to work with some new gear/software/etc and at the end of the exercise will understand VoIP from phone or ATA at point (A) too phone or ATA at Point (B), if you know what I mean tongue.gif (keeping a box of Panadol on the ready doh.gif )
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hey guyz...I'm totally noob about VoIP and after going thru many pages in this thread...I still confuse....

I would like to know what's the point to purchase VoIP products like linksys or Dlink since we can call by using our normal phone thru Italk or Time access something like that??

Could anybody tell me what is pro and con for buying VoIP products??and If we purchase VoIP, do we still need to subscribe ??if yes, those package iszit something like Jaring 015 , BBphone etc???

I have a wireless modem router with 4 ports RJ-45.....in case if I want to use VoIP..what are the product should I looking for??

thx for ur help!!
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post May 10 2007, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 10 2007, 01:10 AM)
hey guyz...I'm totally noob about VoIP and after going thru many pages in this thread...I still confuse....

I would like to know what's the point to purchase VoIP products like linksys or Dlink since we can call by using our normal phone thru Italk or Time access something like that??

Could anybody tell me what is pro and con for buying VoIP products??and If we purchase VoIP, do we still need to subscribe ??if yes, those package iszit something like Jaring 015 , BBphone etc???

I have a wireless modem router with 4 ports RJ-45.....in case if I want to use VoIP..what are the product should I looking for??

thx for ur help!!
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For normal use, it all come down to call rate. If time or italk is cheaper then better use that one coz no need to configure anything. But usually voip is cheaper especially call to oversea.

Voip also got some advantages/disadvantage. 1st the quality really depend on ur internet line. 2nd you can have DID no like 03xxxxxxxx to connect to ur voip account. So people can call you anywhere you are with 1 phone no. Imagine you in USA and logging to your voip account. People dialing 03xxxxxxx still can connect to you. You can also configure voip to forward to other no. Even ring multiple no at once. Let's said you not around, the server will forward the call to multiple no you configured and connect to the 1st one that pickup the call.

The are many thing, but it you only using to make a call then just use whatever cheaper.

To use voip. Need ATA device, usually coz RM200+. Connect this to RJ45 port and normal phone. Then need to configure the account info.

Yes, need to subscribe to like Jaring 015 or BBPhone. Local server better in latency (delay). But they got monthly fee I believe. Try oversea provider, usually only pay as you use for basic call. If need DID then got monthly fee. That the basic one.

Hmm, another interesting about voip is free call. If 2 party got both voip with same provider then you can call for free. If you own a bussines and got multiple branch. You can configure voip and can call free between those branches.

So many thing to story.. If need anything just drop a msg here..

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post May 10 2007, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ May 10 2007, 09:19 AM)
For normal use, it all come down to call rate. If time or italk is cheaper then better use that one coz no need to configure anything. But usually voip is cheaper especially call to oversea.

Voip also got some advantages/disadvantage. 1st the quality really depend on ur internet line. 2nd you can have DID no like 03xxxxxxxx to connect to ur voip account. So people can call you anywhere you are with 1 phone no. Imagine you in USA and logging to your voip account. People dialing 03xxxxxxx still can connect to you. You can also configure voip to forward to other no. Even ring multiple no at once. Let's said you not around, the server will forward the call to multiple no you configured and connect to the 1st one that pickup the call.

The are many thing, but it you only using to make a call then just use whatever cheaper.

To use voip. Need ATA device, usually coz RM200+. Connect this to RJ45 port and normal phone. Then need to configure the account info.

Yes, need to subscribe to like Jaring 015 or BBPhone. Local server better in latency (delay). But they got monthly fee I believe. Try oversea provider, usually only pay as you use for basic call. If need DID then got monthly fee. That the basic one.

Hmm, another interesting about voip is free call. If 2 party got both voip with same provider then you can call for free. If you own a bussines and got multiple branch. You can configure voip and can call free between those branches.

So many thing to story.. If need anything just drop a msg here..
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Thx really much for ur answer.....about the ATA device...could anybody send me a link of the product...so I can roughly know how it's looked like? and what is ATA stands for?!?

Last time when I was studying in University....I saw all the room including lecturer room, lecture room, theatre everywhere...using the following product...

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that's the VoIP phone iszit??? I heard my fren from the IT management said the cost for this setup is very high but it runs economical in long term??


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uhuuuu using cisco phone will cost u a bomb ....

well as explained by aneip ... VoIP comes to conserving or cutting ur current phone bill ... if u have a lot of branches then free call to branches can help the cutting down of the bill

Well best of luck to u lucky .... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 10 2007, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ May 10 2007, 12:26 PM)
uhuuuu using cisco phone will cost u a bomb ....

well as explained by aneip ... VoIP comes to conserving or cutting ur current phone bill ... if u have a lot of branches then free call to branches can help the cutting down of the bill

Well best of luck to u lucky .... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks cruzzmz,

Yes, Cisco IP phones are a bit pricey. I'm using them here now 7960 Series (google will tell you all about it). The provider must support SCCP protocol for this to work; where as "ATA" needs a SIP/STUN server & sometimes a SOHO style adsl modem (if my understanding of the technology is correct). Using the ATA/SIP softphone solution also places more of the burden on your HSP (hosting service provider) hardware vs say Skype or one of the IM VoIP connection methods (MSN, Yahoo IM can all do this right? but then your dependent on their servers/INET/etc). Of course one's line speed/stability is a large question. In Klang Valley I've been using a 1mb streamyHex connection & cheapo ATA for the past year & half. Our VoIP hardware is currently all located in Aussieland (soon to be here, woot! woot!). It works wonderfully with the exception of the DID number; having no VoIP gateway here=no DID. Hopefully this will change soon blink.gif Even routing the calls through Aussie calls to US/UK/Germany/China all clear, crisp etc (suggested only for 1mb links and above; it worked on 512k but other users within the same network can cause jitter/echoing/etc). On another note; someone was asking about softphones which could be used on Mobile's or on PC, here is a good listing I just came accross:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software (look at OS compatibility & SIP compatibility)

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post May 10 2007, 04:26 PM

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Is that VOIP service free?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 10 2007, 04:26 PM)
I talk to my brother using either, msn voice chat, or just use something like teamspeak.

So why pay more money to use voip :/ ?

Everybody usually has a computer.
Are there any voip phones you can use like a mobile phone and take anywhere, receive calls anytime any place ?
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Not all the people would be staying infront of the computer waiting for the free voip call.

VOIP is the solution for let's say, a company to cut down the phone bill or, the heavy overseas/mobile phone caller.

As for the VOIP phone - since it needs internet connection, eventually you will still need at least a wifi internet for the VOIP mobile phone (for e.g. SMC has a wifi phone for Skype)

http://www.smc-asia.com/v2/index.php?optio...=417&Itemid=140


Or, use VOIP service provider has the callback function, if there's any. iTalk mobile is the best example. In this case, it doesn't need internet connection.


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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 10 2007, 01:10 AM)
hey guyz...I'm totally noob about VoIP and after going thru many pages in this thread...I still confuse....

I would like to know what's the point to purchase VoIP products like linksys or Dlink since we can call by using our normal phone thru Italk or Time access something like that??

Could anybody tell me what is pro and con for buying VoIP products??and If we purchase VoIP, do we still need to subscribe ??if yes, those package iszit something like Jaring 015 , BBphone etc???

I have a wireless modem router with 4 ports RJ-45.....in case if I want to use VoIP..what are the product should I looking for??

thx for ur help!!
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- the purpose of getting VOIP adapter is because, it can be configured as such that, u can start calling overseas call by using the normal phone (of course, first of all, you need a VOIP service subscription) without using computer

Whereas iTalk, you still need to go thru the painful process by keying in the access card code then dial...

and yes, Jaring 015 is offering the solution like what i mentioned smile.gif

Cons of getting VOIP adapter... u need extra space for an adapter + more electricity consumption?

But I do see more Pros, if you are a heavy overseas/mobile caller - cos cheaper call rate is what VOIP offers for.

If you are looking for VOIP service provider, the most famous is of course SkypeOut (www.skype.com) and personally I'd recommend PennyTel (www.pennytel.com)

If you want, let's say, a VOIP adapter (and yes, first of all u need to have a VOIP service subscription) you may look at Dlink's DVG2001S http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=447

I've not tried out any VOIP adapter yet, but i guess, looking at the posts, cruzzmz, Xybirium or lucky206 are better people to ask for biggrin.gif

Last but not least, if you don't wish to buy a VOIP adapter, then just use the VOIP service like SkypeOut, which you need Skype software installed and of course, a computer switched on.

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Google for "why use VOIP" and you will find a lot of articles.

You can also visit http://www.myvoipprovider.com/

I'm not going to talk about all the advantages or disadvantages of VoIP because most of the articles being Googled will cover that.

I still use iTalk because I can call from any Malaysian Mobile to any other Malaysian Mobile at only 25sen/minute.

Do you know that you can call certain fixed line numbers in a number of countries for free (300 minutes/week) using VoIP?
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Good Info Xybirium biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2007, 12:20 PM

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To anyone who know operating Cisco IP Telephony, may I ask how to make a call to landline number (eg: +60 3 5555 5555)?

I have no CCVP or CCIE yet, but currently learn how to set VoIP by using Cisco 2811 router and Catalyst 3650-PoE switch.

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CMERouter configuration:

CODE

!
! Last configuration change at 11:28:46 UTC Tue May 15 2007
! NVRAM config last updated at 11:29:15 UTC Tue May 15 2007
!
version 12.3
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
!
hostname CMERouter
!
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
!
!
no network-clock-participate aim 0
no network-clock-participate aim 1
no aaa new-model
ip subnet-zero
!
!
ip cef
ip dhcp excluded-address 172.16.10.1 172.16.10.10
ip dhcp excluded-address 172.16.20.1 172.16.20.10
ip dhcp excluded-address 172.16.15.1 172.16.15.10
!
ip dhcp pool VLAN15_Voice
  network 172.16.15.0 255.255.255.0
  default-router 172.16.15.1
  option 150 ip 172.16.15.1
!
ip dhcp pool VLAN10_Staff
  network 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.0
  default-router 172.16.10.1
  option 150 ip 172.16.15.1
!
ip dhcp pool VLAN20_Servers
  network 172.16.20.0 255.255.255.0
  option 150 ip 172.16.15.1
  default-router 172.16.20.1
!
!
no ip domain lookup
ip ips po max-events 100
no ftp-server write-enable
!
voice-card 0
no dspfarm
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
description VLAN 1
encapsulation dot1Q 1 native
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.10
description VLAN 10 Staff
encapsulation dot1Q 10
ip address 172.16.10.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.15
description VLAN 15 Voice
encapsulation dot1Q 15
ip address 172.16.15.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.20
description VLAN 20 Servers
encapsulation dot1Q 20
ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
no ip address
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/1/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface FastEthernet0/1/1
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface FastEthernet0/1/2
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface FastEthernet0/1/3
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial0/2/0
no ip address
shutdown
no fair-queue
clockrate 2000000
!
interface Serial0/2/1
no ip address
shutdown
clockrate 2000000
!
interface BRI1/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface BRI1/1
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface BRI1/2
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface BRI1/3
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Vlan1
no ip address
!
router eigrp 100
network 172.16.0.0
auto-summary
!
ip classless
!
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
!
!
!
!
!
!
control-plane
!
!
!
voice-port 0/0/0
description FXS Port for Analog Phone 1
!
voice-port 0/0/1
description FXS Port for Analog Phone 2
!
voice-port 0/3/0
description FXO Port 1
!
voice-port 0/3/1
description FXO Port 2
!
!
!
!
!
dial-peer voice 1 pots
destination-pattern 2222
port 0/0/0
!
!
!
telephony-service
load 7960-7940 P00303020214
max-ephones 2
max-dn 20
ip source-address 172.16.15.1 port 2000
auto assign 2 to 2
create cnf-files version-stamp 7960 May 15 2007 10:38:20
keepalive 10
max-conferences 8
!
!
ephone-dn  1  dual-line
number 1001
name XXXXX Line 1
!
!
ephone-dn  2  dual-line
number 1002
name XXXXX Line 2
!
!
ephone-dn  3  dual-line
number 1003
name YYYYY Line 1
!
!
ephone-dn  4  dual-line
number 1004
name YYYYY Line 2
!
!
ephone  1
mac-address 0018.187B.0FE7
button  1:1 2:2
!
!
!
ephone  2
mac-address 0018.187B.067B
type 7940
button  1:3 2:4
!
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
!
scheduler allocate 20000 1000
!
end


CMESwitch configuration:
CODE

!
version 12.2
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname CMESwitch
!
enable secret 5 $1$64zw$UhFSxC5JdtA6AL8rOMMFt0
!
no aaa new-model
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
!
!
!
!
no file verify auto
spanning-tree mode pvst
spanning-tree extend system-id
!
vlan internal allocation policy ascending
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
switchport mode trunk
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
!
interface FastEthernet0/4
description FA0/4 VLAN 10 Staff
switchport access vlan 10
switchport mode access
switchport voice vlan 15
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/5
!
interface FastEthernet0/6
description F0/6 VLAN 20 Servers
switchport access vlan 20
switchport mode access
switchport voice vlan 15
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/7
!
interface FastEthernet0/8
!
interface FastEthernet0/9
!
interface FastEthernet0/10
!
interface FastEthernet0/11
!
interface FastEthernet0/12
!
interface FastEthernet0/13
!
interface FastEthernet0/14
!
interface FastEthernet0/15
!
interface FastEthernet0/16
!
interface FastEthernet0/17
!
interface FastEthernet0/18
!
interface FastEthernet0/19
!
interface FastEthernet0/20
!
interface FastEthernet0/21
!
interface FastEthernet0/22
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
!
interface Vlan1
description Management VLAN 1
ip address 172.16.1.4 255.255.255.0
!
ip default-gateway 172.16.1.1
ip classless
ip http server
!
!
control-plane
!
!
line con 0
line vty 0 4
line vty 5 15
!
!
end


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post May 17 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(coolblade @ May 15 2007, 12:20 PM)
To anyone who know operating Cisco IP Telephony, may I ask how to make a call to landline number (eg: +60 3 5555 5555)?

I have no CCVP or CCIE yet, but currently learn how to set VoIP by using Cisco 2811 router and Catalyst 3650-PoE switch.
I'm not positive but I think you'll need some type of hardware interface which gives you connectivity to PRI=>PSTN lines, right. Like a VoIP Gateway or SIP with interconnecting cards for PRI connection. Do post what you find; cool looking setup there wink.gif
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QUOTE(bukcow @ May 11 2007, 06:46 PM)
Be very careful with teleboss.net, it is an unscrupulous MLM VoIP company in Malaysia, operate by a mad China man name Mr. Banks I paid deposit USD3000/ for a temporary rights to sell VoIP services in Singapore and when I want to withdraw unused deposit idling in his company, all my 93 customers VoIP services was blocked without notice. I am face with angry customers protesting blockage and the mad Mr. Banks of teleboss.net just ignore my call.
Please help to stop him from further cheating in Malaysia this would create very bad name for the country.
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teleboss.net is same as belltone?
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QUOTE(lucky206 @ May 17 2007, 02:19 PM)
I'm not positive but I think you'll need some type of hardware interface which gives you connectivity to PRI=>PSTN lines, right. Like a VoIP Gateway or SIP with interconnecting cards for PRI connection. Do post what you find; cool looking setup there wink.gif
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yup u need a PSTN Gateway in order to push ur call out ... or also known as PGW (pstn GW) ... also u need to configure ur VB (voicebridge) to fwd any call that is not in ur VoIP netwrk ... example when user dial 03,04, 013,012 etc it will push it to ur PGW

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I am in the midst of launching a pc2phone software for pc to digi numbers only(016/0146/0143). I am setting up 5 test accounts for foc with 1 hour talk time, for those who are interested, please leave me a pm or state it here.
I can be contacted at johan.hc (at) hotmail.com

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Is there a voip service that goes on a monthly billing cycle? Prolly charge RM888 for a month with free calls to certain destinations? I am skeptical on charge per call basis as i dont really know the total amount until i get the bill then i pengsan.

And does our braodband ISP (streamyx) ideal to actualy go to voip? i cant even download a small file from the internet sometimes. Will a high codec voip call just eat up all the bandwidth?

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