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Xybirium
post Mar 25 2007, 08:49 AM

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How is the voice quality using the Pennytel?

Maybe you would like share your experience for our benefit. I'm sure a lot of other people would be interested if the quality is good.
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post Mar 25 2007, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 08:49 AM)
How is the voice quality using the Pennytel?

Maybe you would like share your experience for our benefit.  I'm sure a lot of other people would be interested if the quality is good.
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like I said in my blog: http://trevesco.blogspot.com/2007/03/dsk-g...4-use-voip.html

Pennytel's call quality is the same, if not better than Skype.


I introduced my friend far away in UK, she said the call quality is better than SkypeOut. She's using her housemate (to be accurate, she's using her Taiwan friend's wifi connection in next door.) connection, who's a heavy bittorrent user.

Back in Skypeout days, the call quality was so so. After she used Pennytel, her father in Taiwan said it's crisp and clear.

After listening that, I had also tried to make call while BT-ing. Hah, it works too!

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If you wish to purchase an account to try out (it's just 5 AUD) just becareful on the selection, DO NOT buy PennyCard, but instead,

at this page: https://www.pennytel.com/signup_step1.jsp

Choose : Free PennyTel calls only
Free PennyTel-to-PennyTel on-net calls and enjoy our ultra-low timed rates for off-net calls (You can always upgrade your options later)

Note that, the credit card verification is the tricky part -- You'll need to call your credit card company to ASK FOR THE VERIFICATION AMOUNT IN AUSSIE DOLLAR!


The Pennytel representaton are monitoring their forum: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=107&g=99

So if you have question about the credit card verificaton part, you can always whim (PM) the representative, as shown here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=707574


If you have checked out their rate, I could use their ANI-call back feature (charge on two legs, to my phone and to the second person's phone) for my Malaysia mobile to Malaysia mobile, but end up still cheaper than my prepaid rate - cos it's only 30sen per minute biggrin.gif

The rate page is shown here: http://pennytel.com/call_rate_pphone.jsp?currency=MYR#M

Again, in my blog post there's a price comparison among SkypeOut, Yahoo Voice and Pennytel, just check it out wink.gif


Added on March 25, 2007, 12:18 pm
QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 08:49 AM)
How is the voice quality using the Pennytel?

Maybe you would like share your experience for our benefit.  I'm sure a lot of other people would be interested if the quality is good.
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Again, setting up Pennytel (you see, there are always pros and cons) soft phone is another tricky part, I use a third-party SIP softphone: X-Lite 3.0

http://www.xten.com/index.php?menu=download

And your SIP account info can be found in the Pennytel account page.


If you have any enquiry, just message me. wink.gif

This post has been edited by trevthum: Mar 25 2007, 12:18 PM
Xybirium
post Mar 25 2007, 07:34 PM

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I think I did register with PennyTel a few months ago and forgot about it.

After reading through their forums, I can see that they have quite good feedback including those making calls to Malaysia.

Oh... by the way, have you tried iTalk with Mobile? Any comments?

http://www.tmonline.com.my/italk_mobile/main.html
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post Mar 25 2007, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 07:34 PM)
I think I did register with PennyTel a few months ago and forgot about it.

After reading through their forums, I can see that they have quite good feedback including those making calls to Malaysia.

Oh... by the way, have you tried iTalk with Mobile?  Any comments?

http://www.tmonline.com.my/italk_mobile/main.html
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No, didn't try yet. How's the quality?

But looking at the rate, it seems that the rate for miss callback for Malaysian mobile -> national call is good (25sen compared to Pennytel's ANI Callback's RM0.271)

But apart from that, iTalk's rate still lose out to the majority of the (IDD) call rate that I've glanced thru.


By the way, i'm a maxis prepaid user. Just now watched the receive call bonus ad on the tv, I had a thought: If I use iTalk misscall back, does that mean i'll have:

1) 25sen per minute (cheaper than any prepaid call rate, except the active5)
2) I get the received call bonus

LOL!!!

Yep, it's good to know if iTalk quality is good, for prepaid user like me biggrin.gif


Added on March 25, 2007, 9:31 pm
QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 07:34 PM)
I think I did register with PennyTel a few months ago and forgot about it.
Yeah, I searched the forum again, found that you did comment bout it Auguest 06. But how come you missed it and still searching for cheapest voip provider?

Mind to share the experience, back then? But i could see from the Pennytel's announcement, there are a lot of new features added since december 06, maybe that's why you didn't really look into it?

This post has been edited by trevthum: Mar 25 2007, 09:33 PM
Xybirium
post Mar 25 2007, 10:22 PM

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Voice quality for iTalk is as good as normal voice call in my opinion. I was one of the early adopters and have been using it ever since. It's still the best if you don't have any extra equipment i.e. ATA or broadband because you can make it from any fixed line or mobile number.

Yes, it is 25sen from any mobile to any mobile within Malaysia. It is still the cheapest in Malaysia (I think you know why).

With regards to the received call bonus, I'm not really sure but maybe you can try and let us know. I am using Celcom Postpaid and Prepaid and I always use iTalk for numbers which are not in my 8pax list.

I think it won't be that difficult to get started because you can find it at almost all phone shops nowadays and at RM10 it shouldn't be a burden. Expiry date is about 2 years. I can confirm that because I just reloaded my iTalk with RingRing card and the expiry is 31st March 2009!

Tip : iTalk=RingRing - If you are making local call (same area) you can dial 1099 as the rate is cheaper than dialling 1800873535. You can also use it for dial-up internet access (4sen/min) just in case your broadband have problems.

Thanks for reporting back.

I probably missed it like what you said because I haven't been keeping up to date with what is going on with PennyTel. My Linksys PAP2 is gathering dust and maybe I'll give it a try. The main concern at that time was the quality of the voice call which made me give up.

Try iTalk and let us know your experience.

Before I forget, welcome to the thread and it is people like you who keep this thread active. Now... don't go away!!!
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post Mar 25 2007, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 10:22 PM)
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Yes, it is 25sen from any mobile to any mobile within Malaysia.  It is still the cheapest in Malaysia (I think you know why).

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Before I forget, welcome to the thread and it is people like you who keep this thread active.  Now... don't go away!!!
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Great, will buy a card to try out as my prepaid credit is running low hehe tongue.gif

Well, I thought it's always great to share the good news about VOIP, cos it's really expensive to make an IDD call in Malaysia.


By the way, if you have broadband connection, it's still very competitive using pennytel:

Malaysia RM0.05899 per minute
Malaysia Mobile RM0.13539 per minute

another good thing is it charges per second block. (iTalk is 20 seconds block)

So, situation like you heard the voicemail of the mobile and u hang up the phone, you are only charged for 0.13539/60 X how many second before you hang up.

At least, this is true as shown in my account summary! biggrin.gif


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Actually I have another thought about saving $$ you are aboard.

Get a prepaid card locally, then use the Pennytel's miss call back feature, so that you can call back Msia at very competitive rate!

For example, I plan to get a prepaid card in HK when i'm going over there this Dec. So i'm gonna register that number in my pennytel account, then I can make call to Msia at:

1) HK -> Msia mobile: 0.04494 + 0.13539 = 0.1834sen per minute
2) HK -> Msia landline: 0.04494 + 0.05899 = 0.10393sen per minute

Apart from that, I can use the credit saved in the prepaid to call my HK friend locally.

How does that sound? Any suggestion?


Added on March 25, 2007, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 10:22 PM)


Tip : iTalk=RingRing - If you are making local call (same area) you can dial 1099 as the rate is cheaper than dialling 1800873535.  You can also use it for dial-up internet access (4sen/min) just in case your broadband have problems.

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I don't get it, you mean 1 800 87 3535 is not a free number? I thought it is?

And what is the cost to call 1099? either from landline or from mobile (prepaid like hotlink i know la, it'll be normal per minute rate)

This post has been edited by trevthum: Mar 25 2007, 11:19 PM
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post Mar 26 2007, 10:56 AM

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Both are free number.. But 1099 using ring-ring card rate and 1800 is i-talk rate. It actually 2 diffrent product when they introduce it.. But I think now the same card no can be use on either system. Correct me is I wrong.

Anyway just heard about this Pennytel, my sipura 3000 also collecting dust.. Hope to make sure of it..
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post Mar 26 2007, 08:21 PM

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Both are free numbers. What I mean is that if you use 1099 instead of 1800873535 to call local numbers; then it is charged at 4sen instead of 15sen. You also do not have to dial the prefix e.g. Kuching to Kuching, not necessary to dial 082 whilst if you use 1800873535, you have to dial 082 even if it is your next door neighbour.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

aneip - That is what I mean. Just go to both RingRing and iTalk website and calculate the difference and you will see what I mean.
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post Mar 27 2007, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 25 2007, 10:22 PM)
Voice quality for iTalk is as good as normal voice call in my opinion.  I was one of the early adopters and have been using it ever since.  It's still the best if you don't have any extra equipment i.e. ATA or broadband because you can make it from any fixed line or mobile number.

Yes, it is 25sen from any mobile to any mobile within Malaysia.  It is still the cheapest in Malaysia (I think you know why).

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Just tried out iTalk, quality was good and yes, it'll be a great saver for a prepaid user like me tongue.gif

however, for IDD call i'll still stick with Pennytel ANI call back biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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post Mar 28 2007, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(trevthum @ Mar 27 2007, 10:40 PM)
Just tried out iTalk, quality was good and yes, it'll be a great saver for a prepaid user like me tongue.gif

however, for IDD call i'll still stick with Pennytel ANI call back biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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I would do the same if I had a paid PennyTel account. It would still be cheaper if you always "bergayut" to any fixed line number in Malaysia or in their list.

How is the voice quality between iTalk and Pennytel? Would you mind very much giving a comparison?
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post Mar 29 2007, 02:12 AM

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hmm this pennytel sounds interesting .. currently getting my line from nextel .. might give pennytel a try smile.gif and i dont think italk offers the lowest rates..

"Yes, it is 25sen from any mobile to any mobile within Malaysia. It is still the cheapest in Malaysia (I think you know why)."
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post Mar 29 2007, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kalimuthu @ Mar 29 2007, 02:12 AM)
hmm this pennytel sounds interesting .. currently getting my line from nextel .. might give pennytel a try smile.gif and i dont think italk offers the lowest rates..

"Yes, it is 25sen from any mobile to any mobile within Malaysia. It is still the cheapest in Malaysia (I think you know why)."
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In that case, could you point me to a company which offers cheaper rates from mobile to mobile within Malaysia? I would gladly switch immediately if the voice quality is comparable to iTalk.

I'm really anxious to hear your reply!!!

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Mar 28 2007, 07:13 PM)
I would do the same if I had a paid PennyTel account.  It would still be cheaper if you always "bergayut" to any fixed line number in Malaysia or in their list.

How is the voice quality between iTalk and Pennytel?  Would you mind very much giving a comparison?
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I still have about AUD 0.39 credit, I can make a web callback between u and another party to test if you want to.

PM me the specific time wink.gif

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post Apr 15 2007, 09:11 PM

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Hey guys & gals,

Something "new" which some of you might want to try out. A J2ME application to call from your mobile using VoIP.

Let us know how it works out...

http://www.talkonaut.com/home.shtml
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post Apr 16 2007, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Apr 15 2007, 09:11 PM)
Hey guys & gals,

Something "new" which some of you might want to try out.  A J2ME application to call from your mobile using VoIP.

Let us know how it works out...

http://www.talkonaut.com/home.shtml
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PennyTel already had enthusiasist worked the similar J2ME application, that make your mobile to make a web callback (charges two leg, exactly just like that talkanaut does) using GPRS connection.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-repli...cfm/686969.html

Note that, i've only survey Malaysia mobile number

Talkanaut's cheapeset per minute rate: USD0.0462
PennyTel per minute rate: USD0.03791

Haha, have u got yourself PennyTel ready? brows.gif

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post Apr 16 2007, 08:49 PM

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Thanks for the feedback.

Haven't reactivated my PennyTel account yet. I'll probably spend some time during this weekend to muck around their website.

iTalk can now be reloaded using your mobile phone without spending a single extra sen. I'm not really sure if it is a new thing but I only found about it last week which goes to show that you have to spend time wandering around their website. Incidently, calling Singapore fixed line from Malaysia fixed line is so much cheaper than calling another Malaysian state at only 10sen per minute! So boys and girls, if you have friends in Singapore, then "bergayut" as much as you want with iTalk because all you need is your fixed line and chat at only RM6.00 per hour!!!
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ok.....
what is the low rate ; reliable Voip now ?

Best Quality :
Recommanded :
Cheapest :
Reliable (average) :

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Apr 16 2007, 08:49 PM)
Thanks for the feedback.

Haven't reactivated my PennyTel account yet.  I'll probably spend some time during this weekend to muck around their website.

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Just email them support@pennytel.com

and they'll get your account activated. It's no hassle biggrin.gif

(darn, i'm like a PennyTel sales representative already)
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Apr 17 2007, 03:38 AM)
ok.....
what is the low rate ; reliable Voip now ?

Best Quality :
Recommanded :
Cheapest :
Reliable (average) :
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iTalk with Mobile is still the best for me in terms of convenience and price. I'm not sure about the others.
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post Apr 19 2007, 12:16 AM

uh weeee !!!!
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well better use the free voip frm sjphone if u have a ppc with u ... I have installed mine and have used it using bbphone acc ... well like always connect to the wifi and make VoIP calls biggrin.gif

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