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post Apr 14 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 14 2015, 08:35 AM)
Anyone build a WW barb?
How do you feel about the new WW barb?

I personally feel Blizz failed big time.
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I still play old WW, using 2-ik.. bcos waste set not drop yet..

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post Apr 14 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 14 2015, 01:06 PM)
You don't rely on the ring alone, I think.
You still need CDR from gears & skill.
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Well, the thing is, after trying it and observe it, i feel that ring very trollish to me.

It seems that the ring only had chance to proc when you kill a monster, and the problem is it did not come out where your char stand. Instead is where the point of impact that kill monster.

So sometimes you need to quickly relocate your char to stand on the zone if you wish to take benefit of it.

Currently i always use HOTA to finish of monster, so sometimes i need to relocate to the zone when the ring proc. Since HOTA always extend a bit front to kill monster. Sometimes if my odin's hammer proc chain lightning, the chain lightning jumped and killed the monster further away, the ring proc at the area where monster shocked to death. doh.gif

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post Apr 14 2015, 05:25 PM

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me want HOTA barb back!!! HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. Rend.. HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. rend.. like a Bawse.. hehehe
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post Apr 14 2015, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 14 2015, 01:03 PM)
Failed in the synergy of the skill.
The fun of it.

If you played the old WW before, you found the synergy of skills (sprint-WW) and resource (i.e.fury generation) matched perfectly.

Now the WW build is like D2. Everything is "automatic". It lacks the fun.
Let me give you few example.
2-piece IK and you will not run short of resource (fury), generally.
You close your eyes and WW and yuo'll find you spawn tornadoes more than sweeping wind-cyclone monk and energy twister Wizard.
You don't sprint any more. You don't need to sprint any more. Use Bul-Khatos 's mighty weapon set.

The whole game play is not quite right. There is no synergy and it's  like playing D1 and D2.

It shows how shallow the current development team is.
Lack of vision. Lack of synergy.
What the current team now is keep boosting damage output.
For example, ancient weapon. You will get 20% damage boost generally.
Keep buffing damage output. Now we see 1-2billions damage per hit.
Blizzard might as well slap 50,000% damage bonus on IK set right in the beginning. Get what I mean?

Now recall back what Blizz did.
Removed synchronisation of sprint & WW. And now they put back sprint-WW and tons of tornadoes but all generated by gears.
Seriously, that feeling sucks. 

Jay Wilson double it.
But the current team sextuple (look at number of tornadoes created).

Jay Wilson was a genius.
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Agree.

In Vanilla, you bash 3 times, then keep holding ww (as long as ww doesn't stop, you gain permanent damage increase from bash:punish, then you run like the wind for movement speed, main damage output and to dump fury. Use BR:into the fray to regain your fury when you crit, to regain more fury, you use OP:killing spree for another 8% crit. When you gain fury, you add more time into WOTB for perma zerker. They sync with each other.

It's true that the new ww has 0 synergy in skills. Because set items took care of that, so our skill slots are filled with offensive (BR) and defensive (WC/lightning cota) skill - to make more damage and take less damage, not to sync.

JW is indeed a genius. And props to Dino, the originator of WW/RLTW. rclxms.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkXf1aR2LXA

QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 14 2015, 05:25 PM)
me want HOTA barb back!!! HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. Rend.. HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. rend.. like a Bawse.. hehehe
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Your problem will be solved by Mortick Bracer!.. Wait.. Nvm.

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post Apr 15 2015, 01:11 AM

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Hi guys,

Im abit curious..while spinning WW+Dust Devil, did weapon damage type/element also effect the damage output of WW? Havn't try before..but need your opinion. I just start s3 2days ago and dont have ramaladni gift yet. What I should reroll to once I got ramaladni.

Yeh i know i should get bulkathos weapon set or IK boulder breaker..but haven't found em yet. my current blackguard pretty shiok d.

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post Apr 15 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Apr 15 2015, 01:11 AM)
Hi guys,

Im abit curious..while spinning WW+Dust Devil, did weapon damage type/element also effect the damage output of WW? Havn't try before..but need your opinion. I just start s3 2days ago and dont have ramaladni gift yet. What I should reroll to once I got ramaladni.

Yeh i know i should get bulkathos weapon set or IK boulder breaker..but haven't found em yet. my current blackguard pretty shiok d.

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weapon damage type won't affect your dmg output. element do. So if you use WW+dust devil rune, you can stack physical for more dmg.

another example is if you use Waste 6 bonus, since you get dust devil rune automatically and you can choose another ww rune, if you use WW+windsheer rune then you will have higher ww+dd dmg output by stacking lightning. It means dust devil element type is according to your ww rune selection.

WW% on items also incease ww AND DD dmg. But skull grasp does not (for DD). So ideally you want to roll WW dmg on boots, and helm only if you can afford to lose 23% life gem on helm (Str/VIT/CC/WW no socket).

for your weapon, i will roll away RCR to socket, then roll it to 10% dmg when you have a gift.

This post has been edited by hOnGhOnG: Apr 15 2015, 09:46 AM
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post Apr 15 2015, 02:02 PM

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Thanks for advice buddy. Here my link to my current char. Still working on to get better bracer. This bracer I use previously with Hota build.

Now Im using WW+WindShear cos still learning how to manage my fury. Always depleted most of the time. Change to Wind Shear and take passive Berserker Rage instead of Weapon Master/Bloodthirst. So I better find 1 bracer with +lightning damage% to more WW damage output right?

And I heard Asp also increase damage of Dust Devil? So I decide to try on Asp on glove instead of CD.
Dont bother my helm..not enough mats to reroll till get max WW.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Plusmin...0/hero/60405526
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 14 2015, 05:25 PM)
me want HOTA barb back!!! HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. Rend.. HOTA.. HOTA.. HOTA.. rend.. like a Bawse.. hehehe
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post Apr 15 2015, 04:31 PM

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hahaha hota barb damn missed him....
currently on 6 piece waste 4 piece ik spinning to win wth my crappy boulder breaker....easy build is shud say
just click down ww n spin to win

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post Apr 15 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Apr 15 2015, 02:02 PM)
Thanks for advice buddy. Here my link to my current char. Still working on to get better bracer. This bracer I use previously with Hota build.

Now Im using WW+WindShear cos still learning how to manage my fury. Always depleted most of the time. Change to Wind Shear and take passive Berserker Rage instead of Weapon Master/Bloodthirst. So I better find 1 bracer with +lightning damage% to more WW damage output right?

And I heard Asp also increase damage of Dust Devil? So I decide to try on Asp on glove instead of CD.
Dont bother my helm..not enough mats to reroll till get max WW.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Plusmin...0/hero/60405526
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I guess you're doing speed farming? For speed farming yeah, mobs die too fast to generate enough fury. You don't need berserker rage passive because as you said you're never full or almost full fury. I will take fury cota, wind sheer, unforgiving, weapon mastery (if you use mighty weapon, if you don't, try animosity), hexing pant (if you have one) and change templar 4th skill to the one that generate fury. Also use warcry - charge if you're speed farming. Overpower - momentum generate fury too but it's not very reliable. Yes if you're using windsheer most of the time go for lightning damage bracer.

ASPD doesn't increase the "damage" of your ww and DD, it just makes them hit more often / more ticks, so more damage, but not in the sense of increasing the "raw damage".

These are the breakpoints for WW and DD:

WW
aps: 0.7 | tps: 2.1429
aps: 0.71429 | tps: 2.2222
aps: 0.74075 | tps: 2.3077
aps: 0.76924 | tps: 2.4000
aps: 0.80001 | tps: 2.5000
aps: 0.83334 | tps: 2.6087
aps: 0.86957 | tps: 2.7273
aps: 0.9091 | tps: 2.8571
aps: 0.95239 | tps: 3.0000
aps: 1.00001 | tps: 3.1579
aps: 1.05264 | tps: 3.3333
aps: 1.11112 | tps: 3.5294
aps: 1.17648 | tps: 3.7500
aps: 1.25001 | tps: 4.0000
aps: 1.33334 | tps: 4.2857
aps: 1.42858 | tps: 4.6154
aps: 1.53847 | tps: 5.0000
aps: 1.66667 | tps: 5.4545
aps: 1.81819 | tps: 6.0000
aps: 2.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 2.22223 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 2.50001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 2.85715 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 4.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 20.0000
aps: 6.66667 | tps: 30.0000

DD
aps: 0.7 | tps: 1.4286
aps: 0.71429 | tps: 1.4634
aps: 0.73171 | tps: 1.5000
aps: 0.75001 | tps: 1.5385
aps: 0.76924 | tps: 1.5789
aps: 0.78948 | tps: 1.6216
aps: 0.81082 | tps: 1.6667
aps: 0.83334 | tps: 1.7143
aps: 0.85715 | tps: 1.7647
aps: 0.88236 | tps: 1.8182
aps: 0.9091 | tps: 1.8750
aps: 0.93751 | tps: 1.9355
aps: 0.96775 | tps: 2.0000
aps: 1.00001 | tps: 2.0690
aps: 1.03449 | tps: 2.1429
aps: 1.07143 | tps: 2.2222
aps: 1.11112 | tps: 2.3077
aps: 1.15385 | tps: 2.4000
aps: 1.20001 | tps: 2.5000
aps: 1.25001 | tps: 2.6087
aps: 1.30435 | tps: 2.7273
aps: 1.36364 | tps: 2.8571
aps: 1.42858 | tps: 3.0000
aps: 1.50001 | tps: 3.1579
aps: 1.57895 | tps: 3.3333
aps: 1.66667 | tps: 3.5294
aps: 1.76471 | tps: 3.7500
aps: 1.87501 | tps: 4.0000
aps: 2.00001 | tps: 4.2857
aps: 2.14286 | tps: 4.6154
aps: 2.3077 | tps: 5.0000
aps: 2.50001 | tps: 5.4545
aps: 2.72728 | tps: 6.0000
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 3.75001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 4.28572 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 6.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 7.50001 | tps: 20.0000

Pop Wotb, check your APS with 7% on glove and without, if it reaches a new significant breakpoint, you can go for it.

edit: Just check your gear, dont roll 7% on glove, go CHD, it's better. 7% is an option if you can roll vit to IAS. Else keep cc and chd.

This post has been edited by hOnGhOnG: Apr 15 2015, 06:56 PM
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:19 PM

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Gear Check m i on the road to gear perfection i mean on the correct way to gear perfection?
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post Apr 15 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Apr 15 2015, 06:46 PM)
I guess you're doing speed farming? For speed farming yeah, mobs die too fast to generate enough fury. You don't need berserker rage passive because as you said you're never full or almost full fury. I will take fury cota, wind sheer, unforgiving, weapon mastery (if you use mighty weapon, if you don't, try animosity), hexing pant (if you have one) and change templar 4th skill to the one that generate fury. Also use warcry - charge if you're speed farming. Overpower - momentum generate fury too but it's not very reliable. Yes if you're using windsheer most of the time go for lightning damage bracer.

ASPD doesn't increase the "damage" of your ww and DD, it just makes them hit more often / more ticks, so more damage, but not in the sense of increasing the "raw damage".

These are the breakpoints for WW and DD:

WW
aps: 0.7 | tps: 2.1429
aps: 0.71429 | tps: 2.2222
aps: 0.74075 | tps: 2.3077
aps: 0.76924 | tps: 2.4000
aps: 0.80001 | tps: 2.5000
aps: 0.83334 | tps: 2.6087
aps: 0.86957 | tps: 2.7273
aps: 0.9091 | tps: 2.8571
aps: 0.95239 | tps: 3.0000
aps: 1.00001 | tps: 3.1579
aps: 1.05264 | tps: 3.3333
aps: 1.11112 | tps: 3.5294
aps: 1.17648 | tps: 3.7500
aps: 1.25001 | tps: 4.0000
aps: 1.33334 | tps: 4.2857
aps: 1.42858 | tps: 4.6154
aps: 1.53847 | tps: 5.0000
aps: 1.66667 | tps: 5.4545
aps: 1.81819 | tps: 6.0000
aps: 2.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 2.22223 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 2.50001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 2.85715 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 4.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 20.0000
aps: 6.66667 | tps: 30.0000

DD
aps: 0.7 | tps: 1.4286
aps: 0.71429 | tps: 1.4634
aps: 0.73171 | tps: 1.5000
aps: 0.75001 | tps: 1.5385
aps: 0.76924 | tps: 1.5789
aps: 0.78948 | tps: 1.6216
aps: 0.81082 | tps: 1.6667
aps: 0.83334 | tps: 1.7143
aps: 0.85715 | tps: 1.7647
aps: 0.88236 | tps: 1.8182
aps: 0.9091 | tps: 1.8750
aps: 0.93751 | tps: 1.9355
aps: 0.96775 | tps: 2.0000
aps: 1.00001 | tps: 2.0690
aps: 1.03449 | tps: 2.1429
aps: 1.07143 | tps: 2.2222
aps: 1.11112 | tps: 2.3077
aps: 1.15385 | tps: 2.4000
aps: 1.20001 | tps: 2.5000
aps: 1.25001 | tps: 2.6087
aps: 1.30435 | tps: 2.7273
aps: 1.36364 | tps: 2.8571
aps: 1.42858 | tps: 3.0000
aps: 1.50001 | tps: 3.1579
aps: 1.57895 | tps: 3.3333
aps: 1.66667 | tps: 3.5294
aps: 1.76471 | tps: 3.7500
aps: 1.87501 | tps: 4.0000
aps: 2.00001 | tps: 4.2857
aps: 2.14286 | tps: 4.6154
aps: 2.3077 | tps: 5.0000
aps: 2.50001 | tps: 5.4545
aps: 2.72728 | tps: 6.0000
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 3.75001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 4.28572 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 6.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 7.50001 | tps: 20.0000

Pop Wotb, check your APS with 7% on glove and without, if it reaches a new significant breakpoint, you can go for it.

edit: Just check your gear, dont roll 7% on glove, go CHD, it's better. 7% is an option if you can roll vit to IAS. Else keep cc and chd.
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thanks again bro.. biggrin.gif

Most of the time i have full fury(due to wind shear rune) and thats why I use passive berserker rage
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(lace @ Apr 15 2015, 08:19 PM)
Gear Check m i on the road to gear perfection i mean on the correct way to gear perfection?
http://www.diabro3.com/?armoryURL=titanlac...89&serverBox=us
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bro, diabro was so last time dy..

get crit damage on amulet.. even a normal legendary amulet will be better.
get elite reduction on chest, it's better than all res. or you can go cota damage on it.
cota damage is multiplicative on shoulder and chest, so it's not a bad choice.
get your follower a bulkathos wedding band. the dmg of the ring on RG is very good.

other than that, you're good to go~


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post Apr 16 2015, 11:21 AM

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lol new exploit, datmodz and quin was talking about it..
both of them are legit so don't worry

go ahead if u guys wanna do biggrin.gif

http://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comments/3...rd_drop_glitch/

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Had a good GR 37 run with a WW Barb! Having hard catching up to him!

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ Apr 16 2015, 11:21 AM)
lol new exploit, datmodz and quin was talking about it..
both of them are legit so don't worry

go ahead if u guys wanna do biggrin.gif

http://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comments/3...rd_drop_glitch/
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Hey everyone,

We're currently working on a hotfix to address an exploit that allows players to gain a significantly larger number of Blood Shards from Blood Thief goblins than intended. While we don't have an ETA to share at this time, we're looking to implement the hotfix (which will also address the underlying bug) as soon as possible in all gameplay regions and will be sure to update this thread once it's live.

With this, we're also in the process of actioning accounts which have been found to be actively using this exploit to gain an unfair advantage. This behavior not only undermines the spirit play, but directly violates our in-game policies for Diablo III. As always, maintaining a stable, safe, and enjoyable online environment for legitimate players is very important to us, and we'll be continuing to keep watch on Battle.net and take additional action as needed.

In the meantime, we encourage everyone to please game responsibly. Not only can using exploits lead to account penalties, but it can also negatively impact the enjoyment of your fellow players. This is why we're working as quickly as we can to fix the underlying issue, and why we'd appreciate your help in keeping the effects of the exploit as minimal as possible until it's removed from the game.

For more information on how to report exploitative behavior, click here. For questions regarding account actions, please refer to Account Administration.

Thank you!

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Yesterday night i finally get the new version of undisputed champion belt.

After wearing it, i take my barb go out for a trial run again monster. I would say really like the legendary effect of gaining every frenzy rune, my barb now can gain fury much faster (gain extra fury), strike harder (damage increase 2.5% each strike), and also most importantly the movement speed gained while under frenzy state (can reach 50% movement speed increase), making my barb much easier to keep the frenzy state and quickly find another monster to hit to continue to stack up the frenzy. rclxms.gif

Later i would try experiment it with bastion revered hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ Apr 17 2015, 08:52 AM)
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Apr 17 2015, 11:07 AM)
Yesterday night i finally get the new version of undisputed champion belt.

After wearing it, i take my barb go out for a trial run again monster. I would say really like the legendary effect of gaining every frenzy rune, my barb now can gain fury much faster (gain extra fury), strike harder (damage increase 2.5% each strike), and also most importantly the movement speed gained while under frenzy state (can reach 50% movement speed increase), making my barb much easier to keep the frenzy state and quickly find another monster to hit to continue to stack up the frenzy.  rclxms.gif

Later i would try experiment it with bastion revered  hmm.gif
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always nice to see someone come out with some crazy idea. rclxms.gif
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that bk sword set... just wont drop for me!

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