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post Jun 8 2013, 11:15 AM

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Btw i noticed since i am doing air clocking. Although core temp says 85c but the air coming out from the cooler is not hot at all

So guess die size n the tim issue.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2013, 11:08 AM)
Yeah latest prime.
Aida hitting higher
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Weird.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.3v

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2013, 11:11 AM)
Spending more time just to get 2133 c7 to work stable.
Doing everything manually. Lol. No presets will work
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I have reported this issue to Raja@ASUS, let's see how maybe the preset timings or auto are too tighten.

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post Jun 8 2013, 11:48 AM

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post Jun 8 2013, 11:51 AM

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Btw whats with asus having a optional two things with m6e
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post Jun 8 2013, 03:56 PM

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Well hmm haswell adventure. so far tested my psc kit. it requires 0.02v more on m6e compared on m4e at 1.62v. (not very happy abt this) 2133 C7. This is my fully stable clocks with aircooling maxing out at 95c on aida and 93c on prime. tested both for 2 hours.
The board is seriously not noobie friendly. Its just lucky i know my psc chip very well.


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same batch as owikh.

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Retail Versions of Intel Core i “Haswell” Are “Hotter and Slower” Than Expected – Report ohmy.gif

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2...ted_Report.html

What is the highest BLCK you guys able to get ?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 06:49 PM)
yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price.  sad.gif

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to access to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to access than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. cry.gif I don't mind, i just move on.

Well nevermind, we are all still learning.  smile.gif
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chill bro, just ignore him...

only enthusiast will understand, been through few forums & oh boy...there are people out there that will do just about anything to get a golden chip.
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post Jun 9 2013, 03:41 AM

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really basket clocking on m6e

took two days to get 2133 C7 for psc
and now looks like another day or two for 2200 C7 to be fully stable

its easy to get it to boot and clock but kindda hard to get it fully stable as theres so many options and alot of the defaults or auto are wrong.

target for 24/7 is bclk 125, dram at 2250 C8 or relaxed C7 with uncore 4.5ghz

btw owikh i noticed i didnt stress the uncore at 4.5ghz more than 30 minutes.... but on the third test temps went at 100C and then trottle. If uncore left at 3.9ghz at default cache voltage no issue max at 93C.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 03:41 AM)
really basket clocking on m6e

took two days to get 2133 C7 for psc
and now looks like another day or two for 2200 C7 to be fully stable

its easy to get it to boot and clock but kindda hard to get it fully stable as theres so many options and alot of the defaults or auto are wrong.

target for 24/7 is bclk 125, dram at 2250 C8 or relaxed C7 with uncore 4.5ghz

btw owikh i noticed i didnt stress the uncore at 4.5ghz more than 30 minutes.... but on the third test temps went at 100C and then trottle. If uncore left at 3.9ghz at default cache voltage no issue max at 93C.
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It could be the IMC issues. Retail chip has (100-150)MHz less mem OC than ES according to replies I got.
I still didn't play with the uncore clocking expect it will contribute some heat to the chip.

BTW, AIDA doesn't stress as much as Prime95 in in the latter will give BSOD 124 & 101. Prime95 needs at least 1.3v for 4.5GHz but AIDA 1.215v. So, i will stop using AIDA for stability.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.215v
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Somehow, I still can't get the LinX working on Haswell I don't know what's wrong it keeps showing "memory is not enough?" error although I have tried selecting various memory/error size

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:06 AM)
It could be the IMC issues. Retail chip has (100-150)MHz less mem OC than ES according to replies I got.
I still didn't play with the uncore clocking expect it will contribute some heat to the chip.

BTW, AIDA doesn't stress as much as Prime95 in in the latter will give BSOD 124 & 101. Prime95 needs at least 1.3v for 4.5GHz but AIDA 1.215v. So, i will stop using AIDA for stability.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.215v
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Somehow, I still can't get the LinX working on Haswell I don't know what's wrong it keeps showing "memory is not enough?" error although I have tried selecting various memory/error size
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yeah same here. i could run 4.6ghz on aida at 1.2v. but bsod on prime. was doing like what asus said to do with 4.6 at 1.2v
then was upping up to 1.25v still bsod. so went down to 4.5ghz and then only can pass. so brought it down to 1.2375v set. i expect the 4.6 to 1.275v but no way to test it as cooler cant take it.

ran multipi linx. heat wasnt that much

i think linx has a issue on finding the cores rather than mem. cause if not howcome 4670k no issue.

only diff is ht and l3 cache mem .

uncore is quite hot cause my proc so far uncore = cpu speed means both at same voltage.
cannot get to the 3rd test on prime. will hit 100c++ n throttle.


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btw can u update ure aida to the latest.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:16 AM)
yeah same here. i could run 4.6ghz on aida at 1.2v. but bsod on prime. was doing like what asus said to do with 4.6 at 1.2v
then was upping up to 1.25v still bsod. so went down to 4.5ghz and then only can pass. so brought it down to 1.2375v set. i expect the 4.6 to 1.275v but no way to test it as cooler cant take it.

ran multipi linx. heat wasnt that much

i think linx has a issue on finding the cores rather than mem. cause if not howcome 4670k no issue.

only diff is ht and l3 cache mem .

uncore is quite hot cause my proc so far uncore = cpu speed means both at same voltage.
cannot get to the 3rd test on prime. will hit 100c++ n throttle.
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Looks like LinX needs a newer version for i7 Haswell.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:20 AM)
btw can u update ure aida to the latest.
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I'm still using AIDA64 3.00.2500 but I saw the update msg popped up during priming lol.
Downloading now...

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post Jun 9 2013, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:31 AM)
Looks like LinX needs a newer version for i7 Haswell.

I'm still using AIDA64 3.00.2500 but I saw the update msg popped up during priming lol.
Downloading now...
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i thought u were using older one that that cause ure bandwidth mem screens are older.

want to compare ure high clocks with mine lower latency.

btw are u running eist and c-state enabled.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:34 AM)
i thought u were using older one that that cause ure bandwidth mem screens are older.

want to compare ure high clocks with mine lower latency.

btw are u running eist and c-state enabled.
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ahh craps I picked the wrong shortcut lol. Sometimes I used older sometimes newer.

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My highly clocked mem I didn't tweak the latency boundary and tWCL yet.
For instance, latency boundary is usually 12 at auto default whist my RAM is capable of doing 8 at 2800.
tWCL is default 10 when my mem is 8 capable.

AIDA64 updated to 3.00.2505 beta, stability seems nothing changes. 4.5GHz is still stable @ 1.216v. Prime95 @ 1.3v failed in 1 hour. sweat.gif

EIST is enabled and C1E is disabled double checked through RealTemp.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 9 2013, 10:10 AM)
ahh craps I picked the wrong shortcut lol. Sometimes I used older sometimes newer.

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My highly clocked mem I didn't tweak the latency boundary and tWCL yet.
For instance, latency boundary is usually 12 at auto default whist my RAM is capable of doing 8 at 2800.
tWCL is default 10 when my mem is 8 capable.

AIDA64 updated to 3.00.2505 beta, stability seems nothing changes. 4.5GHz is still stable @ 1.216v. Prime95 @ 1.3v failed in 1 hour.  sweat.gif

EIST is enabled and C1E is disabled double checked through RealTemp.
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c-state issue in crysis 3.

btw have u changed ure vccin to performance. if not it will flux.

eh was hoping to c ure aida mem benchmark in all 8 threads.
4.5ghz upgrade difference.
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L1 cache on steroids.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 10:34 AM)
c-state issue in crysis 3.

btw have u changed ure vccin to performance. if not it will flux.

eh was hoping to c ure aida mem benchmark in all 8 threads.
4.5ghz upgrade difference.
L1 cache on steroids.
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Ty. Need to beat that sandy read/write to make this upgrade totaly a better setup.

So far clocking on this board is pretty interesting.
Its actually getting fun. 2200c7 almost perfect.
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Anybody tried delidding and reapply the tim?
Some guys at ocn have successfully delidded and near 20°c temperature difference
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post Jun 9 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(SoLeHuDDiN98 @ Jun 9 2013, 12:20 PM)
Anybody tried delidding and reapply the tim?
Some guys at ocn have successfully delidded and near 20°c temperature difference
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Nah. Not until u find a awesome batch. Got three coming in. From uk, aus n japan. Lucky couz wedding lol.
Not going to do another sandy. That time took 14cpu. Rm200 lost on each.

Bur got a feeling need to wait for costa batch

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 4 2013, 07:29 AM)
MY bad 4770K's VID is 1.05v.
Can keep using this VID up to 4.1GHz, which is supposed to perform equal to a 3770K @ 4.3-4.4GHz.

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Sorry, didn't notice your reply.

Are 4770k VID usually that high? My 4670k VID is 0.8250v.

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I am also unaccustomed to the vcore on haswell. Idle at 0.888v while at load it is lower at 0.864v rclxub.gif Isn't vcore at idle supposed to be lower (or rather, vcore at load higher)? hmm.gif

Vcore at idle
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