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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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post Jun 20 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:35 AM)
RM is down against most major currencies (US, AUD, NZD, SGD, HKD)... Hmmmm... wonder whats going on... LMFAO!!!!
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Yes. USD changed to RM last 2 week was RM3.05 but now RM3.15. huhu. good for those who earn outside of malaysia but I wanna know what is currently going on? Anybody can help to explain? Some of my friends said that the RM will be devalued even further to rm3.3 like that very soon vs USD
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post Jun 20 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:49 AM)
Yes yes... I would also like to know... anybody? anybody care to explain?  biggrin.gif lol!!! And more importantly for the majority of those who read this forum... what may be the impact on property prices (if any)... please... anybody?  smile.gif
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In my opinion, the more devalued the RM, the more foreigners would be interested to buy especially Singaporeans. Our exchange rate is quite bullshit now. I am happy since I earn some parts in USD but I am worried what will happen to my country situation especially we know that we are having huge debt.


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post Jun 20 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:56 AM)
Oh.. so are you implying that its not advisable to stretch one's financials? If so, then is it advisable to stretch 8K to buy a 800K property? hmmmm... biggrin.gif
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Stretch is fine if one has plan B, C, D ,E to service loan... if no plan, i would suggest to buy at own affordability standard.
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post Jun 20 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jun 20 2013, 12:01 PM)
Hmmm.. I see... it makes sense that from a purchasing power point of view, it would draw more property investors in to buy because its cheaper.. but from an economic point of view if the currency is devaluing due to weak fundamentals, which investors would want to start up businesses here... and if few, then where will the jobs (especially for expats) come from? And if that is not there then where is the rental demand and yield going to come from? If business declines then wouldn't there be job cuts? Well unless of course and obviously that the whole economy relies again on property development??? Which is what it already has been doing... so is there going to be more? Hmmmm....
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I am not an economist but just saying based on what I think is logic. I believe property prices wont be affected negatively until 2016-2017. why? We have such stimulus like the Economic Tranformation Plan. One of the things is the new MRT phase 1,2,3 and lrt#2,3.

We have employed many foreigners professional and non-professionals to work and actually from the data I have, rental in certain parts of kl is been increasing steadily. well this maybe an artificial effect since it is supported by the projects of the ETP.

I believe since these projects are ongoing, property prices would not be affected as not just foreigners coming but Malaysians are also buying near MRT and LRT. Until around 2016-2017, in which the next GE is around the corner and MRT#1 and LRT#2 almost completed or functional (dunno), then maybe we could see some negative effect. that time MRT#2,#3 and others ETP is still unknown of their status. If BN loses, then we could see something else in the initial stage.


If you ask me, we are in the correct timing to buy near these new MRT, LRT. When all phases completed, I believe price wont be as per current price anymore. bad news for buyer then. This is a chance of a lifetime. one should look into this opportunity just like those early buyers before 2008.

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 20 2013, 01:17 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Why bro? After mrt and lrt completed, those houses nearby will surely appreciate, right? I consider that as a chance of a lifetime to buy at current price
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post Jun 20 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 20 2013, 04:26 PM)
How many new condo/apartments coming to the market along mrt and lrt line?
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My rule is simple. Less than 1km i considered near. So far not many have this criteria. So those within 1km will have some demand in them.

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post Jun 21 2013, 01:46 PM

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Guys, i am not an agent la. Hehe. Just an investor.
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QUOTE(HeartRock_Cafe @ Jun 21 2013, 11:31 PM)
gold supporter mana? down 25% d  whistling.gif
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When things like this happen, gold supporters went hiding la. Kekeke. Debtisreallymoney

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 21 2013, 11:49 PM)
Are you will buy gold too or still looking property?
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Property bro. How about u?
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jun 22 2013, 12:00 AM)
You are certainly part of the vast majority.

70% of my co-workers (in an oil/gas firm), ex-co-workers (in big 4 audit), personal friends and ex-school (damansara jaya) friends are not home owners too.

Interestingly 90% of my Malay and Indian friends are non-home owners. You know in oil/gas you can mingle around with many Malay colleagues and today many share a common view that we all gotta be very worried of the "home affordability" issue.

Just go to any social youth gathering like the lowyat one or bloggers' gathering... a vast majority are not home owners. And on average, many are wanting to buy any type of home at RM300 psf and a vast majority are "debt-ridden" such as having car loans to pay.
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Bro, ur situation is really different with mine. My colleagues are buying non stop. Average at 3 houses. 90% are non-home owners? Really that bad aaa?
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 22 2013, 12:16 AM)
Different ppl different thinking. I have few friends also non home owner too. They didn't planning their future.
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Hmm. Not a good habit. When i started working, 2 things i wanted were an audi a4 and a landed house. I bought an old audi a4 b5 1996 (this was in 2006) and a landed house in puchong. With a lousy salary back then and those 2 commitments and dating with my gf, didnt even have money to eat during working days. But luckily i did what i did. Susah2 dahulu, senang2 kemudian.

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post Jun 22 2013, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jun 22 2013, 12:28 AM)
i belong to the 24-26 age group and perhaps my accounting/finance line is more conservative when it comes to investments

predominantly ethnic-borned Chinese friends around 70% as mentioned... but Malay friends are overwhelmingly not owning yet, in fact the awareness of property investment has just started.
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Oic. 24-26 is still young.I am sure more will be buying when they reach late 20s or early 30s. I just reached 30 years old while my colleagues and subordinates are 30-37 years old.
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jun 22 2013, 12:33 AM)
and no offense... many of my neighborhood friends (ex-schoolies in damansara), probably will get a home with abit of help from parents... so no home also never mind!!
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Hahah. Then no need to worry liao. tongue.gif can buy scirocco or golf gti
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QUOTE(worgen @ Jun 22 2013, 09:32 AM)
So many ddd camp come and go.Some give up debate like dern, mrchipsley and sakura. Some 2 head snake lost credibility like tikaram. Some goes hiding whn their gold investment gone to the drain like debtismoney. Sad day for ddd camp.
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Ya lor. I see mostly uuu camp still saying the same thing and not changing their thoughts. But ddd camp only a few left and others are not consistent anymore.
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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 22 2013, 12:48 PM)
Walao! Is it money really no value now until all use for buying property?
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I can see that people are less sceptical as compared to before the election period.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 22 2013, 06:21 PM)
For me, Ronney1985's comments do make sense though. I don't know how do you think about it. MRT has a station at Mid Valley City and it brough the crowd to sweep units of KL Eco City in weeks. I am not fancy about MRT project because it will be a crime spot and as said, most will choose to drive as MRT or public transports are middle-low level people's preference. (Look at the buses, who are the passengers?)
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Hmmm. I see many people take lrt. When i just started working, even my boss took lrt. He made a lot of money. Parked his bmw at lrt station and took lrt coz it was easy for him to commute rather than being stucked in a jam. Different people different preference i guess.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 22 2013, 06:30 PM)
Not only that. Your boss take LRT because the LRT brings him to another station that is walking distance to his office. If your boss has to take a bus to change route after an LRT ride, I don't think he will want to go for it.

I definitely will not take LRT unless the LRT take me directly to my destination.
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Of course, dear. His destination was klcc. Anyway many people work all over the place. What one should do now is to study the mrt stops and buy where u think is suitable. Try checking circle line for instance. The stations are on interesting places.
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QUOTE(worgen @ Jun 22 2013, 06:53 PM)
If she is talking for own stay, she is right. Its one own preference. But if for investment, we are talking about majority preference. I will invest near lrt.
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100% with u bro smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 11:29 PM

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I think we r fortunate since many countries have gone through what we r going through now. So u can actually study the other countries. Properties near mrt, lrt are good. Come on. How can anybody deny this?
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post Jun 23 2013, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 23 2013, 08:35 AM)
not fully agree on your number 4 thinking. yes, petrol expense may not much different. hot sun problem take umbrella lor. yeah i walk very long distance too after/before reach the station..consider as exercise lor...in malaysia almost impossible to see people starve till die only ada people kenyang and fat till die. what drain your $ is the car maintenance, tyre change due to botak or koyak, spare part change due to rosak and old, bocor here n there, road tax, car insurance. all this add up you will see the huge different and will be like cutting a chunk of meat out of your body...ouch
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+1 ya lor. How can car expenses = same as lrt? Regular service + roadtax+ installment +insurance+ tyres+ petrol +toll+ parking. For sure cannot be cheaper or same as lrt. Really doesnt make sense. Unless kereta sorong

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