I consider it return at 5%.

Then also depends what you mean as "Inflation" lah. The one Ah Jib tells you or the one you see with your own eyes.

If vs the figure Ah Jib says it is but everyone doesn't believe because we all know it's a lie then yes it beats inflation.

If vs the actual figure then I'd say it is about at par or slightly below for gross income.

Still, 5% is a reasonably good figure.

But I reckon 5% is still hard to get for 2013 properties, maybe if you bought pre-2011. That is, if you prop can rent out in the first place lah.

As1m might give u 7% base on amount vested but props gives u 5% of return by 10% of ur vested amount.
Cocr wise, which is better?

Disclaimer: am not dissing as1m nor promoting prop investment!

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I like to see people wait, wait and keep waiting.
Will see what happen in 2014, enjoy yourself DDD camp

You are so true, whether you have 100 properties or non, end up will go to the same destination.
Now I fully understand why they keep waiting

They could buy due to their circumstances.

They could be lying.

No one knows.

BUT if someone is going to buy just because few people like tat or tikaram claim they buy, shouldn't they do their homework? I mean, come on, it's 30 years loan of your life to the Bank. Someone who just buys cos some people on the internet who are bearish turned bullish is quite stupid imo.

Ya! some down camp are buying, but Cheap??? Are u sure they get it cheap?? That's why I would prefer them to share if they got it cheap, u still don't get it!
Ya! There's one down camp share his purchased recently, RM4xx k but RM650 psf, is 4xx k cheap or 650psf expensive?? You tell me?

Why everyone thinks property prices in MALAYSIA will drop?

Try call the agent, call few of them, and make the arrangement for viewing, then u will know the actual status, don't always just refer to iproperty or propwall.

Thailand, Indonesia, China lower risk???
Initially I thought u don't kno abt MK prop......
Then I realize u don't kno abt prop.......
Now I realize u don't kno abt your direction......
The end.

Introduction of GST will no doubt increase property price but it will as likely cause a recession.

Sorry to bump in here. Have been observing the progress of this thread a few hot topics. Realised something important but forgotten and not sure who voiced it out. Living in a few million worth of bungalow feeling proud and sound. Buying few hundred thousand condos flip here and there and calling poor buyers like us water fishes.

No doubt sounded very successful in a way if don't compare to those silence readers who might be even more successful (usually many won't talk too much if really successful, some who needs more attention and recognision will make some noise).

However, I believe property is a rich man game. When you look at the example above, rich people living in multimillion bungalow and buying cheaper properties worth few hundred thousand to flip to those poor working people and after being sold the property and pocket the profit, poor buyers are to be labelled water fish. So its no doubt rich gets richer and poor gets poorer.

What to do, poor guy like me have to just stand behind some ego rich guy smelling fart. However, I believe 1 day poor guys can make it to the elite group too but will make sure if I make it, I will never call poor guys water fish.

He finished all of us.

I am confused with ddd camp. Not sure what are they doing here? Some ddd camp like TIKARAM even more confusing themself. Every thing about property is bad bad bad in this forum. Really damn bad. But whn come to buying spree, even the uuu camp also have to 2 hands up if try to beat him.

His total buying = 14 bijis. Breakdown for most pessimistic ddd camp TIKARAM as following:

1. Empire Damansara = 2 bijis
2. C180 = 2 bijis
3. Jadehill = 2 bijis
4. Kepong sentral = 2 bijis
5. 7 tree Seven Residen cheras = 2 bijis
6. Alam Sanjung = 2 bijis
7. You city = 2 bijis

TOtal = 14 bijis fr 7 development (both new and subsales)

Tell me, whom fr uuu camp can beat this fela?

So.... is this the good time to buy house now? thinking of buying my 1st house

Residential properties and agriculture land won't be affected by GST.

Yes, u are very smart. The residential properties are exempted supply( not sure about agriculture land).

In theory, they are not affected since they are exempted supply, however, in practice, i  doubt  the housing developers will absorb this GST input cost. Since the price of the residential properties are not price controllable items, the developers just pass this hidden cost to the buyers.

Tikaram, Do you mind to tell me how a retiree get loan to buy house?

maybe nobody dare ask, but i like to ask mod and/or admin here this question:

why suspend the thread only to find the same fellas harping on same nonsense, useless to anyone? i thought i read "will get it in time"??

tikaram may have made a mistake in being too honest with his ways (the more he share in an honest fashion, the more he gets f'ed from behind again and again by we know who. that shouldn't be the reason for non-stop bashing - i tot we are more mature than that, past that?

just trying to keep the value and usefulness of this thread.

guys n gurls, pls speak up. if not, we have thread suspended for a few days, then again comes the shit that nobody wants.

Actually this thread has never been useful in any sense. Every year DDD camp says price will go down and when that year didnt go down, next year say again. Then that year didnt go down, next year start again. Then what they say always been countered by UUU camp. I think i dont wanna declare myself UUU camp coz i am actually in a "realistic" camp. I dont think price will go down. Until at least 2016-17. By 2014-2015, we could estimate what may happen in 2016-2017. This year i am confident price wont go down. Next year too. 6 more months until i announce publicly: UTOPIA SIAPA documentary is purely BULLSHIT especially the "PROPERTY GURU" who talked also like a lansi fella.