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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
post Jul 2 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 2 2013, 03:36 PM)
Sigh... no one is asking you to buy a BMW... at the rate you're going with taxi fares, I'm sure you could well afford a local car (Myvi perhaps)... Of course there's petrol and parking, but hey there's a price for everything including convenience and safety... nowadays a lot of snatch thieves on motor bikes... not to say that parking lots are safe but safer than walking on the streets flagging down taxis... end of the day, its your decision... I guess people just sharing their views on your position that's all and no one is forcing you to follow it.

There's no wrong in people preferring to buy cars rather than a house either, its just what they priortise and gain satisfaction from. Most likely they rather have their own transport to get to work, the convenience of it and just stay with parents where lodging, utilities and food is provided for FOC... So no right or wrong... just individual choices.
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Bro im not talking about buying BMW, im talking about the psychology of malaysians. And with this behaviour psychology, i dun believe property price will go down.
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post Jul 2 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 2 2013, 03:44 PM)
I think I know you... but I better stop talking because I don't want you to know me... but then again... I may be mistaken!!!
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Well if you know me then you should know me, i gave more than enuff info already. And what i said is no lie.
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post Jul 2 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Jul 2 2013, 04:03 PM)
Wealth is important but doesnt necessary reflects the quality of life. I knew a colleague who owned 5 properties but taking bus to work everyday. When we go for better food during lunch he always wont join (unless someone treating) because he wanted to save money. Last I heard, he suddenly passed away. He died a rich man, but lived his life like a poor man. What s the point?
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Well thats not gonna be me. I dont save money, i spent it. I dont take bus, i take taxis. Just not gonna spend my money on cars....yet.

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post Jul 2 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 2 2013, 03:54 PM)
Its anybody's guess whether the property prices will continue going up or start going down... Personally I think it'll go down (I'm sure some jokers going to ask, so when by how much... which is the obvious question everyone knows how to ask)... Seriously, all my buddies are all settled down and we enjoyed our lives partied, movies, sports, road trips, name it we did it... and in our group we used to have friends like you, they'd always say "hey you come fetch me", or "hey, I'm short I'll pay you back later" and personally they know deep inside that sharing the petrol and toll or whatever it is, does not include sharing the maintenance of the car... and yet they still ask time after time... hey can you pick me up... after awhile, we just didn't see that guy anymore cos everyone just got tired... I dunno... I guess you know what I mean. Anyway, whatever makes you happy man.
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Well then i dont think you know me then. I think your frend that u think is me, is not me.
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post Jul 2 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Jul 2 2013, 04:19 PM)
No sir I am not referring to you personally. Sorry if there is any offence. 
My point is everyone has their own views towards happiness. Taking taxi is fine for someone, but a waste of time for others. Some enjoy dumping money into properties and see their wealth grow. Some enjoy driving around in a BMW instead of buying more properties. From financial perspective the former is smarter than the latter. But from enjoyment of life perspective, the latter could be wiser.
The problem is many forummers have a narrow point of view; either you are wrong or I am right kind of mentality. And making too much assumptions about the other parties.
I am from a DDD camp but doeant mean I think prices of ALL properties will come down, or there is no good buy in the market now. Nor affordability is an issue to me.
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I know u not referring to me. I wasnt offended. I m just saying that will not be me.
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post Jul 3 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ Jul 3 2013, 08:42 AM)
I really can't brain your attitude at all.

First you said you prefer to buy property.
Secondly, you claimed those buying cars are stupid.

Ok, I don't wish to comment on these views.

But then you go and buy Amaya Saujana?!?!?!  doh.gif

No bus there.
No LRT there.
No amenities within walking distance.
The only thing close by is country club (no use if you are not a member) and Japanese school (definitely not for your kids).

No car how to visit your own property?
If your tenant no car how to stay there?
If your prospective buyer no car would he buy from you?

Your own statement vs your action is so contradicting I felt you must be a sales agent or property agent.

If you truly believe future of KL-ites is no car you will be buying somewhere on LRT line. And don't say its overpriced - your Amaya surely ain't cheap either. How about sell off your Amaya go for Tropicana Grande?  brows.gif
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Right.
1st as zuiko said, i bought amaya maluri not amaya saujana
2nd i choose not to buy a car and not that i say people buy car stupid.
3rd Amaya maluri still not finish, i dont live there yet and currently am still staying in maluri where it is near sg wang, klcc, pavillion and the likes
4th becuase i was raised in maluri i know why i should buy 2 apartments there and rather dont have a car
5th Dont simply shoot people
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jul 4 2013, 12:17 PM)
I think most people are like this: Just because the durian is a non-low hanging fruit, people say that the durian must be infested with maggots. Yes, I agree some props are really expensive and bullshit in price without any sustainability aspect to contribute to the price. BUT there are still good properties within reach in KV and undervalued.

Some people didnt study and just say everything bullshit and must go down. It is like saying Puchong and Kajang are banjir area. for sure all places in Puchong and Kajang banjir and no good. One should not generalize everything.

I also dont like young people keep saying, " house nowadays too expensive. too expensive for anyone to buy". But at the same time, same people go clubbing, spa, buy scirocco as daily driven car etc. really bullshit. huhu
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Yeaah can't imagine people will go for a RM400k BMW 5 series when you can buy my apartment back then for RM400k too. Well if you are rich, fine but if you are young and really can waste your money like that?! Doenst make sense for me.

Went to Bangkok and saw a few Camry hybrids and was thiniking " What the hell, there are Camry hybrids here!!" Did a quick check, it is worth 26k USD in US. Cant imagine how much it will be in Malaysia. If it is worth it to but a Camry Hybrid in Malaysia I will take one but if it is like 150k RM!! then forget about it.

Why is there no car bubble term in Malaysia? Because there is no such thing happened in this world. There is only property bubble, stock bubble commodity bubble but no car bubble. And in Malaysia I believe there is a car bubble but it is just that it is always supported by Malaysians that it will never burst. Well the bubble doesnt increase anyway but I believe cars in Malaysia are much expensive nowadays compared to 10-20 yrs ago, right? If cars dont burst, hard for me to think that the apartments that I bought will decrease.

In my opinion only.
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM)
hmmm...true but at the same time those who are not in loan will avoid buying property as well which happening in Singapore and HK? Just based on myself as customer point of view.
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As a customer you will avoid property but will you avoid buying a car? How much? And if you buy a car you still wont buy a house?

BTW Singapore and HK public transport is top notch.
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post Jul 4 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 02:34 PM)
Speaking of maintenance fee.....I hate those who don't pay the maintenance fee...look at my apartment lift. Spoiled for months and still not repair. Happy climb for them, lucky mine wasn't that high floor hahaha...
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There is one argument that I always make with my friends, If the apartemnt is really expensive, that means it is a deterrant for dodgy people to live at your place. Meaning if your aparment is cheap, there will be these kind of people who wont pay these maintenance fees because hey, the only reason they bought the apartment is because it is cheap. But if the price of the apartment is high end price, you dont expect the tenant not to pay the maintenance fee right?

I hope there are no such owners at Amaya Maluri.
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post Jul 4 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:20 PM)
Amaya Maluri = commercial title? Hmmm...I dunno. I just afraid of commercial title property.
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Well just saying at that kind of price, there will be no such owners who will skip mantenance fee...and why are you afraid of commercial title?
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:24 PM)
er....I own a moto...not a...car not worth le...I can get second hand cheaper later hehehe... Look at the petrol cost you for car each month...not worth lo...
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Correct you are saying not worth to own a car. That is why I dont buy any cars but bought two apartments instead.

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post Jul 4 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:43 PM)
of coz not worth lo...if I can afford only I get it. Car just a luxury stuff and people like me don't need it.
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Anyway what I see in what you post is you dont buy a car but bought an apartment instead. That is a commendable move and I will support that.

I have an option to get a moto too I guess, but dont want too. Statistically you will always have an accident in your life at least once, do you want to have an accident while riding a bike? I dont want too. Ive seen too many accidents involving motorcycles and this is still while I am in the taxi. I always say when there is an accident invoving a bike, or a close call involving a bike. "Lucky this guy is not dead yet". Sometimes it is the fault of the car, other times it will be the fault of the bike. But If I have a kid, I wont let him drive a bike.

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:52 PM)
eh...don't scare me la...my wife daily curse me to get a toyota car...no money lo...
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hahaha..dont mean to scare you la. Sorry about that. I am talking about what I think about myself.

For me i always thought, if I would have an accident, better when I am in a car. I would be a very bad biker, so better not buy one. If you are good at riding bikes, then use the bike. Just ride carefully.


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QUOTE(pobox @ Jul 4 2013, 03:56 PM)
There are a lot of cheapskate wealthy people. They are living well but for some funny reason they are NOT willing to contribute anything.
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Well cant imagine such wealthy people who buy high end condo will not pay maintenance fees.
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post Jul 4 2013, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:58 PM)
first...fengshui not good....second....a lot of "good buddy"...third....noisy...
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Well I heard that amaya maluri feng shui is good by some chinese buyer. Anyway I am not Chinese, so dunno about fengshui stuff.

Second a lot of "good buddy". Why not? What is a "good buddy"

Third noisy? As oppose to where you live where you want to declare war on your neighbours upstairs? Who doesnt pay maintenance fee?
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QUOTE(pobox @ Jul 4 2013, 04:05 PM)
They will tell you "I do not use swimming pool & gym. The guards are shitty too. Why should I pay?". Real story, mate.
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Well if that is true, we ask him or her not to use the lifts too. Then they dont need to pay.
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post Jul 4 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 4 2013, 04:10 PM)
feng shui where got good...according to chinese ancient fengshui...one of the most problem stuff is having shoplots below where you stays...because the shoplots will takeup all the earth energy that can benefit those who stays there...shops need earth energy to create good fortune too like boosting sales and attract customers...another example is house that near to cemetery also bad...because of the thousand of graveyard generate different kind of will so that it can direct where their family future is..but imaging you pickup the signal energy from different family? That will be disaster...you will get sick easily too.

Second, "good buddy" is foreign worker lo....look at the shops nowadays so many foreign worker...

Third, noisy lo...the shop close at 11pm so you will get the noise from 5.30pm to 11pm...walau...
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I see..

But good buddy and noisy should be a problem at your place too. I mean foreign worker will be living at your building compared to commercial buildings I think. Shops? Well dunno how noisy it will be.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 4 2013, 05:01 PM)
Anything is possible in bolehland, car bubble did happen. When wira was first introduced, potong increased price every quarterly and waiting time was over 3 months. During that period, a used wira was worth MORE than its newly purchased price and anyone who booked or bought a car can make instant profit. Like all parties, it came to end prematurely  cry.gif

Hmmmm, sound familiar to current what market?  doh.gif
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I never heard of this. But then it is potong and I am never ever gonna buy potong...how about the BMWs, Merc, Toyotas and Hondas?

How is Potong Price now? Yeah they wanna decrease 30% wuteverla..still fcking xpensive and not worth it for the amount you gonna spend for a tin kosong car.

In the end what type of car is important or in case of properties for me is location location location.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 8 2013, 01:33 AM)
look whos talking. Pretty disappointed with how the way you put things. Just because you had a different POV and you would categorize them so lowly?? That's your conclusion? Just because you did not make it, it doesn't mean others had not reach there yet. You do not need to drag everyone down to your level to make yourself happier.  smile.gif

like it or  not.. I'm having difficulty finding a apartment for less than rm400k now. So much about lelong unit and so on.. If you really did try it you will know how hard it is for you to get em.. tried to nego a couple and the owners insisted with the firm price. I'm not too sure whether it's the agent or owner but like it or not they are not desperate selling it and that's for sure. If you look at the trend now.. Anything below RM400k is CHEAP. It used to be RM300k previousll.. but for RM300k i can't even find myself something decent now.. While the figures in my banking account is growing but it isn't as quick as the property prices in klang valley... We are running out of land after all. smile.gif look at where they are building the homes now.

Continue waiting and let's see where you get by 2014? All we need is time to prove you wrong.. backdated from 2007 until now.. how long more should the waiting game continue? Ask yourself.
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Yeah I guess I am one of the people that he categorized lowly. BTW I am a new member and I am not a property agent.

These people have been proven wrong since the day I heard it in 2010 when I want to buy my first apartment. Now trying to talk down on people like me.

Hey, did you guys know that we can get tax return on the interest if we bought properties during2009 to 2010? Now no more for properties bought after 2010. Man I really really would have shoot myself if I bought it after 2010. My SNP was dated 23 December 2010. If waited for 10 more days, I would not be eligible already for the tax return. There are other factors to be eligible for this but the main one was to buy the property during 2009 to 2010. I bet you guys dont know this because either you guys have too much properties or bought before 2009 or after 2010. Yup if I listen to these DDD campers, I would be losing twice. I got audited last year for this. I ask LHDN why?? They said the main reason is the house that you claim tax return on the interest in the tax form. Well I brought the SNP and show them the date that I bought the apartment. Maximum you can claim is 10k. That is a lot of savings from the tax I tell you.




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post Jul 8 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Jul 8 2013, 06:36 PM)
well, if you like to accept yourself as that as what that kid say, then be my guest. anyway, nobody knows who you are afterall, this is cyberspace.

what have been proven wrong ? it would be a bit stupid to think that property market is a stagnant market that only can go up and cant come down...but when it comes down, only the stupid & greedy ones who would be in trpuble, possibly comitting suicides, hope not involving the families too. it sounds senstive, but it happens in reality. this is afterall cyberspace. dont have to use your own stories to "show" to people, any stories can come up in cyberspace anyway.....not that im saying you are lying.

and more importantly, it's not what the DDD or UUU people say that you make decision, it's your own brain that does the thinking.  if you depend on what other people say, you can REALLY fit in low class category, honestly. but again, that kid is the one who interpreted and said that I said that you are a low class people, the words doesnt comes from my sentences. so, if you believe his interpretation, you will naturally act like one...
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If i depend what other people say, i would be just like people who missed the boat..but im not

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