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post Nov 9 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(djmixxer @ Nov 9 2013, 09:16 PM)
Hi guys im planning to get another rig by end of next month i would like a couple of suggestions.

[Budget] RM3000 - RM3500

[Purpose] Watch movies, gaming

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig] Core i7 2600k and Dell U2713HM

[Monitor resolution] 2560 x 1440 (27")

[Game or software that use frequently] COD / NFS, latest games

[Personal Preference Brand] I would like at least a 120gb SSD and for casing i have made my mind to get CM Silencio 650 Mid Tower Case.

[Location] Penang
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Leadtek GTX780 RM1899
Crucial M500 RM349
Kingston 8gb ram RM229
Seasonic S12II 620W RM299
MSI Z77 G41 RM329
Total RM3105

CPU reused, the rest reserved for casing and option cpu cooler for overclocking.
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post Nov 12 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(face @ Nov 12 2013, 05:02 PM)
any cheap mobo can suggest ? that support 4 hd ?
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If you are going to put 4 HDD in raid setup, I would suggest u get H87 or Z87 mobo that support such feature.
Else B85 will be good enough.
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post Nov 13 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(IMTHEDESTROYER @ Nov 13 2013, 12:31 PM)
guys,quick newbie question

AMD X8 FX 8350 8-cores vs Intel Xeon E1230 V3/V2,which one is better?for 3d rendering of-course.it said here i can get 4.0 ghz out of it with much cheaper price. and i know that you can get amd mobo for the same price as intel mobo.i need some advice from expert here.

need to cut down some budget here,to make way for extra power gpu:D
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Both are good for 3d rendering if we are looking at multi-thread case.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39
There's also some cases that FX8350 performs better when the software utilize the multi-core thread from AMD cpu, but I cant remember where's the benchmark results. You can change the bench setting on link above.
By considering i7 is slightly expensive and also offer slightly better performance, lower power consumption, etc. However, we have the option of Xeon E3 1230v2/v3 that offers similar performance as i7 3770/4770 at RM100 cheaper price.
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post Nov 13 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(CheaTeRz @ Nov 13 2013, 03:46 PM)
If I understand you right,

between

AMD FX 8-Core Black Edition FX-8350 RM659
and
Core i7-4770 - RM990

its much valuable to take  FX-8350 for rendering

and if compare between


FX-8350
and
Xeon E1230v3 - RM790

its still considerable to take Xeon is it?

Im considering in changing to AMD just for the sake of trying things out and from what I head its much easier to OC FX CPU rather than intel core.

oh yeah, never OC before and I think its time for me to take another step  thumbup.gif
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Both side are favorable depends on preference, but more likely taking the Intel path as for me im familiar to Intel more than amd.
At the meanwhile, AMD was staying AM3+ for quite some time and we didnt see much improvement on features. Instead they just add-in something like more sata/usb ports without really improve much on the mobo chipset.
Overclocking hard or easy on AMD i'm not sure, perhaps u need consult sifu from overclocking section.
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post Nov 15 2013, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(face @ Nov 15 2013, 05:35 PM)
guys any thoughts ? where should i downgrade to make the cost lower ?

CPU: Intel Core I7 4770
MOBO: Asrock Z87 Fatality Killer
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz ... 8gb enough ?
GPU: Sapphire R9 290X 4GB DDR5 or r9 290 ?
HDD: WD 3TB Caviar Green
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
PSU: Seasonic M12 II 750W PSU
Chasis: CM Carbide 330R Casing
Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S
ODD: Liteon 42x Sata DVDRW
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Depends on your usage for further adjustment, else u will just receive some random feedbacks, downgrade/upgrade by spending more.
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post Nov 16 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Nov 16 2013, 02:20 AM)
but it ends up like this sad.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Its related to the crash issues recently by the game itself, just wait for the update from BF4 for further solution.
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post Nov 16 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Nov 16 2013, 04:18 PM)
Haha smile.gif but the heat emitted is so much higher than the previous set up sad.gif But the ASUS Fans is so much quiet smile.gif
I'm using HWMONITOR PRO(Trial version smile.gif ) and posted the screenshoot on the above replies already smile.gif I'm using Cooler master Hyper 212 EVO.
Previously rig the GTX560TI OC would produce a lot of noise when playing game compare to this ASUS sad.gif It might be AMD gpu vs Nvidia GPU? hmmm
Any specific brands that is cheap and useful?
I had posted the question at other forums and they suggest me to set up 2 exhaust on top,2 intake on front,one rear exhaust and two side intake,so all together 7 fans sad.gif
Wanted to buy the Enermax TB but it seemed to be out of budget =[
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I always leave front intake as passive airflow without fans to ease my setup and cost effective. Add another two exhaust fans on top are more than enough ady imo.
Check with idealtech they recently have silverstone ap122 promo at RM29 each i think.
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post Nov 16 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Nov 16 2013, 04:26 PM)
So do you mean that I just needed to buy two fans for exhaust top? smile.gif leave side and front with no fans?
Anyway,do I need to uggrade the rear exhaust stock fan?
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Yup, two exhaust at top. The rest leave blank. The rear one just leave it there temporary if budget tight and maybe upgrade/change it later if not functioning well or making noise.
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Nov 16 2013, 05:43 PM)
For normal people like me..
Is it ok to built the pc with cpu G2020 with onboard graphic?

p/s: My pc will be use only for downloading stuffs and watching HD movies..
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Yup it is sufficient for everyday usage and task. I just built one recently for my bro too.
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Nov 16 2013, 05:59 PM)
is it okay to watch hd movies (mainly .mkv movies) without graphic card?
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Yes, the onboard/integrated graphic can handle without problem.
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Nov 16 2013, 06:09 PM)
i don't know you are the right person or not for me to ask this..
how long is the lifespan for a pc generally?
for now i'm using the pc with cpu Q6600 and gpu amd hd4850.. built this since 4 or 5 years ago.. but now notice it slow down..
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Generally there's no exact how long a pc will last, but a pc spec will eventually outdated thats for sure.
Time estimation for a pc get outdated maybe 3-4yrs but very depending on the improvements on technology.
I upgrade my sis pc previously, a core 2 duo cpu with 4gb ddr3 ram and ssd and it is still running good.
PC slows down maybe the HDD is old and having many unnecessary/temp files, else maybe virus issues, etc.
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QUOTE(danielx90 @ Nov 19 2013, 12:31 PM)
Hi, can anyone suggest me desktop rig for gaming like dota2. Budget is RM2K include monitor. Thanks in advance~
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Try

Intel i3 4130 RM399
ASROCK B85M-HDS RM249
Kingston 4gb ram RM119
Seagate 500gb HDD RM159
Sapphire 7770 RM349
FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Dell 22”S2240L IPS 21.5" monitor RM489
Any Casing RM129
Total RM2042
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QUOTE(hackcremo @ Nov 19 2013, 10:58 PM)
Regarding on the SSD you guys suggest, Crucial M4 128GB, can I know where is the shop still selling this model..?? look on viewnet and czone price list, it dont exist..
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M4 is no longer in production i think, now Crucial produce lineup with M500 model better performance than M4.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Nov 20 2013, 06:21 PM)
I need suggestion for a photo editing rig.

No real budget, I aim to save as much as money as possible
Lightroom benefits the most from a fast clockspeed, so I guess i5 is the best bet. I do not however, know how to OC. Some sellers do provide OCing service right? Which OC's better on air (I am willing to allocate budget on 3rd party cooler), an i5 or i7? is it worth it going to K series?

Other than that:
8gb RAM
2TB hd

already have an SSD, keyboard mouse. dont need monitor and speakers too.

I dont game, so no need for GPU.

Suggestions please.
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In my opinion I dun think really need to oc to get extra bit of speed, while u may try option for an i7 processor that definitely will benefit the processing speed.
However, i5 still very capable for the usage u stated above:

Try

Intel i5 4440 RM579
ASROCK B85M-HDS RM249
Kingston 8gb ram RM229
SSD Reuse
Seagate 2TB RM274
FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Liteon DVD-RW RM59
Any Casing u like RM150
Total RM1689

However if u wants overclocking, replace the processor with "K" one and motherboard with Z87 series will do.

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Nov 20 2013, 08:23 PM)
Guys, considering I have been busy with my studies.  I won't be creating the 4th version of this thread.  I think someone should handle the 4th version of this thread.
Cable707 hmwgbworld
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Actually u can just open the thread without update the first page for 2-3 months shudnt be much problem tongue.gif .
I can help open thread but might not be able to update time to time unsure.gif , coz also busy little recently.

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