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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V55!, v 5 5 -> Em Em -> Berak edition.

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post May 28 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(animegod @ May 28 2013, 12:00 AM)
Wow... love u..  wub.gif

btw, there was supposed to be a thin black grounding wire from alternator to body.. seems like yours had been removed? anyway, the new ones are more than enough... thx for the pics.. appreciated it.
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lol u're welcome laugh.gif

btw the grounding wire u're talking about i dont remember seeing it before.. maybe older batch don't have? hmm.gif
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post May 28 2013, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 27 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ok...i just did my CVT oils, feels great after the change but a few things to take note :

1) I went to a few service center....apparently they are unaware our Proton Inspira uses Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid-J1 4 Liter Can (P/N: S0001401), some service center I went show me a Proton CVT Fluid in 1 liter packaging with different part number. Of course i went away and consulted my mechanic about this.

2) Some of you starts to thing....is it 4 liter or 6 liter?

According to mechanic, if you just unplug the bolt and DRAIN the used oil out from the bottom of your gearbox, you will need a 4 liter can...which my mechanic show me by draining my used CVT fluid to an empty engine oil bottle which is 4 liter.

More CVT fluid is needed if you were to FLUSH... it means they will use some machine to circulate the used oil and replace it with new oil therefore need almost double the amount because the CVT Fluid in your CVT Radiator will be flushed out and refilled with new ones too therefore you need more.

I dunno what method will the service center "flush" your CVT....so be careful of it's just draining then make sure they charge you the drain price not the flush price.

Therefore...if flush means 99% new fluid and drain means you still have some old fluid remaining .

3) The Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid J1 is roughly around RM220 on the market out there...but in proton's list(based on proton-edar.com.my) it's around RM177.40 for 4 liters. So double confirm on the fluid they use...no harm asking right?

This is the one...the 4 liter can that i use to drain and change my CVT fluid :

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The one some service center show me is as below (picture googled from internet)...

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Good info. Can share which SC will use this fluid? My next service is 40k .. would need to change cvt fluid.. Don't want to cause any unpleasant thing to the 27k thingy
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post May 28 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(selinix @ May 28 2013, 12:31 AM)
Good info. Can share which SC will use this fluid? My next service is 40k .. would need to change cvt fluid.. Don't want to cause any unpleasant thing to the 27k thingy
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I didn't send to SC but i did it outside. You can ask SC to show you the fluid before you drop your car or ask them for the part number....i dunno if proton has OEM the fluid but better be careful than be sorry. Even if you pull out the the transmission dip stick it'll state clearly and the oil to used...

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post May 28 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 27 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ok...i just did my CVT oils, feels great after the change but a few things to take note :

1) I went to a few service center....apparently they are unaware our Proton Inspira uses Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid-J1 4 Liter Can (P/N: S0001401), some service center I went show me a Proton CVT Fluid in 1 liter packaging with different part number. Of course i went away and consulted my mechanic about this.

2) Some of you starts to thing....is it 4 liter or 6 liter?

According to mechanic, if you just unplug the bolt and DRAIN the used oil out from the bottom of your gearbox, you will need a 4 liter can...which my mechanic show me by draining my used CVT fluid to an empty engine oil bottle which is 4 liter.

More CVT fluid is needed if you were to FLUSH... it means they will use some machine to circulate the used oil and replace it with new oil therefore need almost double the amount because the CVT Fluid in your CVT Radiator will be flushed out and refilled with new ones too therefore you need more.

I dunno what method will the service center "flush" your CVT....so be careful of it's just draining then make sure they charge you the drain price not the flush price.

Therefore...if flush means 99% new fluid and drain means you still have some old fluid remaining .

3) The Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid J1 is roughly around RM220 on the market out there...but in proton's list(based on proton-edar.com.my) it's around RM177.40 for 4 liters. So double confirm on the fluid they use...no harm asking right?

This is the one...the 4 liter can that i use to drain and change my CVT fluid :

user posted image
The one some service center show me is as below (picture googled from internet)...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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punch transmission oil??? punch is preve or saga de woo,,or exora
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post May 28 2013, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ May 27 2013, 07:47 PM)
according to peterogy..... u mod 2.4 no car to kill. u mod 2.0 to kill 2.4 instant shiokness.......

small knife cut big tree u know  biggrin.gif
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Then mai change to singapore's 1.6 lancer engine and go hunt 2.4 lor...instant kill!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ May 28 2013, 12:48 AM)
punch transmission oil??? punch is preve or saga de woo,,or exora
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Tat's y i ohmy.gif when that counter fella say use that oil....i say i'm driving inspira 2.0P, then still dare say yea....CVT gearbox mah, use this one. Wahahaha.....that's y i mad.gif rage and end up service outside.
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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 28 2013, 12:55 AM)
Tat's y i  ohmy.gif  when that counter fella say use that oil....i say i'm driving inspira 2.0P, then still dare say yea....CVT gearbox mah, use this one. Wahahaha.....that's y i  mad.gif  rage and end up service outside.
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better request for mitsu part,
later anything happen,
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post May 28 2013, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ May 28 2013, 12:58 AM)
better request for mitsu part,
later anything happen,
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You'll be surprised how kelam kabut is all the service center....during my 1st and 2nd service i have to argue to get Mitsubishi Oil Filter....all the SCs was like, same one...Proton never inform us that Inspira has different Oil Filter. Until i give them the part number and they check....

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post May 28 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 28 2013, 01:03 AM)
You'll be surprised how kelam kabut is all the service center....during my 1st and 2nd service i have to argue to get Mitsubishi Oil Filter....all the SCs was like, same one...Proton never inform us that Inspira has different Oil Filter. Until i give them the part number and they check....
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can you share your mech's shop location and contact that is able to service the CVT properly?
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post May 28 2013, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(animegod @ May 28 2013, 12:00 AM)
Wow... love u..  wub.gif

btw, there was supposed to be a thin black grounding wire from alternator to body.. seems like yours had been removed? anyway, the new ones are more than enough... thx for the pics.. appreciated it.
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ini mesti mau DIY grounding nie


lol

get some copper welding wires
confirm the BEST compared to...err... Audio AMP Wires watever sizes

Cheaper too if u ban nai carik
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QUOTE(animegod @ May 27 2013, 09:52 PM)
Mine same.. when new no vibrate 1... just have to live with it for now...after change shocks and rim+tyres then might fix it.. leave it for the future....
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QUOTE(s@ni @ May 27 2013, 09:58 PM)
Ops, 3rd time? Check ur tyre rotation , which 1 is inside/outside...sumtimes tyre shop mount it wrongly (like in my case) and sumbody from exora thread..
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QUOTE(aminmh @ May 27 2013, 10:00 PM)
why u did yor balancing alignment so frequent? masuk track like hamie is it? hmm.gif  flex.gif
u did check your rim condition and tried on wheel balancing? no dent to the rim...?
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QUOTE(cancellation @ May 28 2013, 12:01 AM)
check your tayar see got pregnant or not, otherwise lims kemek d.somehow many possibility
take this
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater
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Thats the thing lor, My last visit to tayar shop only like last month and driven 2000km from them to now only . No masuk track also but road a bit rosak la here,lots of uneven surface

Must ask rawang boy to recommend his uncle shop d doh.gif
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ May 28 2013, 01:16 AM)
can you share your mech's shop location and contact that is able to service the CVT properly?
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My mechanic is near Ampang Yong Tau Foo area,around the area at the junction to turn into Pandan Mewah (where TiTaN is), a bit far from most of us if you do need then PM me cz quite hard to find....actually don't need to be an expert to service the CVT, just make sure SC use the correct fluid and they don't over charge you by billing extra amount of CVTF nothing complex. I kena laugh by my cousin because in NZ he services his own gearbox and engine oil...but i pissed him off by saying labour here are cheap so why dirty your hands when you can act like a boss. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 27 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ok...i just did my CVT oils, feels great after the change but a few things to take note :

1) I went to a few service center....apparently they are unaware our Proton Inspira uses Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid-J1 4 Liter Can (P/N: S0001401), some service center I went show me a Proton CVT Fluid in 1 liter packaging with different part number. Of course i went away and consulted my mechanic about this.

2) Some of you starts to thing....is it 4 liter or 6 liter?

According to mechanic, if you just unplug the bolt and DRAIN the used oil out from the bottom of your gearbox, you will need a 4 liter can...which my mechanic show me by draining my used CVT fluid to an empty engine oil bottle which is 4 liter.

More CVT fluid is needed if you were to FLUSH... it means they will use some machine to circulate the used oil and replace it with new oil therefore need almost double the amount because the CVT Fluid in your CVT Radiator will be flushed out and refilled with new ones too therefore you need more.

I dunno what method will the service center "flush" your CVT....so be careful of it's just draining then make sure they charge you the drain price not the flush price.

Therefore...if flush means 99% new fluid and drain means you still have some old fluid remaining .

3) The Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid J1 is roughly around RM220 on the market out there...but in proton's list(based on proton-edar.com.my) it's around RM177.40 for 4 liters. So double confirm on the fluid they use...no harm asking right?

This is the one...the 4 liter can that i use to drain and change my CVT fluid :

user posted image
The one some service center show me is as below (picture googled from internet)...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Good luck for those SC that recommend use Proton CVT fluid oil.
CONFIRM CVT WILL KONG!
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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 27 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ok...i just did my CVT oils, feels great after the change but a few things to take note :

1) I went to a few service center....apparently they are unaware our Proton Inspira uses Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid-J1 4 Liter Can (P/N: S0001401), some service center I went show me a Proton CVT Fluid in 1 liter packaging with different part number. Of course i went away and consulted my mechanic about this.

2) Some of you starts to thing....is it 4 liter or 6 liter?

According to mechanic, if you just unplug the bolt and DRAIN the used oil out from the bottom of your gearbox, you will need a 4 liter can...which my mechanic show me by draining my used CVT fluid to an empty engine oil bottle which is 4 liter.

More CVT fluid is needed if you were to FLUSH... it means they will use some machine to circulate the used oil and replace it with new oil therefore need almost double the amount because the CVT Fluid in your CVT Radiator will be flushed out and refilled with new ones too therefore you need more.

I dunno what method will the service center "flush" your CVT....so be careful of it's just draining then make sure they charge you the drain price not the flush price.

Therefore...if flush means 99% new fluid and drain means you still have some old fluid remaining .

3) The Mitsubishi Diaqueen CVT Fluid J1 is roughly around RM220 on the market out there...but in proton's list(based on proton-edar.com.my) it's around RM177.40 for 4 liters. So double confirm on the fluid they use...no harm asking right?

This is the one...the 4 liter can that i use to drain and change my CVT fluid :

user posted image
The one some service center show me is as below (picture googled from internet)...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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really nice info there
i think many of us not so familiar with CVTs
anyway did you do the flushing??
used only 4L?

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QUOTE(JackNg1985 @ May 28 2013, 08:09 AM)
Good luck for those SC that recommend use Proton CVT fluid oil.
CONFIRM CVT WILL KONG!
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JFM CONFIRM CVT WILL KONG!
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QUOTE(blursquid @ May 28 2013, 12:30 AM)
Honestly i was blur too then i went to ask a few service center....all was like refer to manual and tell me the price, when i ask about oil all say dunno then when i ask for part-number all give me different different part number. All SC i went got different info sheets...some say 6 liters and some say 4 liters and some say 4.5 liters. At 1 point i was  mad.gif real furious mad.gif......cz they treat me like with the "nak servis letak kereta...banyak tanye pulak" attitude, so i went to my personal mechanic, not some big shot repair shop but at least they explain to me and take initiative to know the difference. Although i know my mechanic charge me slightly high for the oil but at least i get to learn....happy to pay more  nod.gif  nod.gif
Sorry if i made myself looks kiasu  doh.gif  and made proton SC looks bad....but the gearbox is damn FxxKing expensive so i had to take xtra initiative. Paiseh!!  blush.gif
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wow thanx bro. his labour cost how much? rm20 oni? blush.gif

1L - RM45, rite? so u use oni 4L, which is RM180 ? wub.gif
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Woooo.. i thought just send to SC then ok, now need to find special Mitsu fluid some more.. Can i just send to the Proton SC and bring the Mitsu fluid then would be ok right?
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QUOTE(meento @ May 28 2013, 09:08 AM)
Woooo.. i thought just send to SC then ok, now need to find special Mitsu fluid some more..  Can i just send to the Proton SC and bring the Mitsu fluid then would be ok  right?
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if you can get a genuine I think should be ok
but some SC dont let you bring your own oil
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post May 28 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(l3ryan @ May 28 2013, 12:30 AM)
lol u're welcome laugh.gif

btw the grounding wire u're talking about i dont remember seeing it before.. maybe older batch don't have? hmm.gif
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the wire should still be there.. a very thin black wire connecting to the front frame from the alternator.. should be the same place as where the new ones is fitted in on the frame. Well, it's very thin, like audio wire... not much use, so better remove i guess..

btw, the DIY wires are full copper 4 Gauge wires.. around 130amp rating if I'm not mistaken.. i think more than enough to ground our car.. but not sure abt the quality, if there's any measurement on that... just a noobie here... smile.gif

Lastly, you can consider adding the alternator booster cable. I read in lancer forum that you can add another alternator charger/booster cable from the alternator +ve post to the +ve of the battery.. It charges the batter better I guess.. they quote the improvement as "Civic stlye response for sluggish Lancer GT Pick-Up".. well that is true btw, but not after prof remap and k&n.. biggrin.gif

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