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 Nokia Lumia 1020 & Various Nokia M$ Talk, RM2,499 with camera grip.

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post Sep 5 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Sep 5 2013, 11:51 AM)
strong camera competition from Honami and to a certain extent Note III (camera + all inclusive package). How well will the 1020 stack up ? Will 1020 still be marketed (and priced) as a niche device ? Hope not. And great news on the local app support from MSFT.

jonchai, the other mobile ecosystems support the features you mentioned ? I'm a pure Symbian user, and my other IOS and Android friends are all normal users, so i have no insight on the enterprise aspects of those.
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 9 2013, 07:55 AM)
I understand your point.
I was WOWed by Note 3's Great Features as well and I was also amazed by Android Vast Apps.

But for me, personally, I am not sure whether those Features will help me in most of my daily routine for next 2-3 years. Dont forget, Lumia 1020 has Mobile Industry unique's feature - 41MP Camera, more or less like Nokia 808 Pureview.

I think Nokia 1520 would be marketed to compete with Note 3, thought a bit late to the game.
Please, I do not wish to comment which will win over the best Phone features.
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I haven't had time to pay attention to Note 3's release. If possible, could you please sum it up for me in a tl;dr version? Wanna know what's so amazing about it ... Thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Sep 9 2013, 09:48 AM)
Ooooh pwetty.. blush.gif

@Nokia - Nokia Malaysia just plain sucks at marketing. Somebody should be fired.

L1020 is also a fail IMO, with its dual-4-sec-lag-core and no SD slot (pretty sure it's Microsoft The Turtle's fault). If Nokia doesn't do something about it, it'll end up being a novelty item like 808 instead of being the killer phone. Re-release it with a quad core, fix those damn lags, put an SD slot and they'll have a big winner. Go Lumia 1025. Or at least fix those damn lags.
Go ProShot.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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In order to fix the lag, they really need an image processor (separate from the main CPU) that's on its own, something which WP does not support at the moment. Even with quad core, the lag still can't be fixed. As for SD, I can still live without it smile.gif
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 9 2013, 09:44 AM)
Oh here comes my rant,

Nokia Pro Cam & Default Cam
This camera app has no "last settings" meaning you have to set the settings again if you've close the app and there's no auto maximum iso settings available in both the cameras, ISO 3200 is not really useful.
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Remember how WP7 didn't have a "save camera settings" when it started? We're seeing the same thing now. Hopefully it gets updated, but of course, since I don't take picture of the same view over and over again, I figure I need not rant about it smile.gif
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 9 2013, 10:14 AM)
Default camera can save settings, only Nokia Pro Cam cannot save settings
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Yes, that's what I said, but if you've been a WP user since its first iteration, you'd know that back in WP7, the default camera didn't even allow you to save settings, which was really mad.gif

So I believe it will come to ProCam soon enough. Drop a suggestion to Nokia.
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@weirdguy, I'm not gonna quote your lengthy comment, but here's the reply. Okay, I'll search for the Note3 features when I have time then.

I wanna know if they are really gimmicky features or useful ones. Remember back in S4 they introduced the waving gesture feature? It sucked plain and simple when put to practical use. I tried numerous times to flip by waving, it couldn't even sense my hand.
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Possibly to fix the yellow hue bug
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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Sep 9 2013, 10:33 AM)
I know that but your regular Joe doesn't know or care about that. And regular Joe is the only important figure in this business. He also wants to see lag-less experience like his iPhone and Droids.

I can think of at least two theoretical solutions for the lag. They can either buffer the shots in L1020's huge RAM and do the saving in background (see: WP's very own image upload that works very well at deceiving users of its perceived speed) or they can reconfigure one or two cores of a quad just to process images (it should be possible as long as MS keep WP lightweight as it is). The latter is probably what Nokia engineers had in mind when they were b*tching about WP's dual-core restriction, and I really don't blame them because WP team is just inept and clueless at designing an OS. I guess we'll see if it's really what they have in mind when L1520 is released.

SD slot should be there simply because people will b*tch if it's not. And b*tch they did. People don't care what design challenge they have to face in trying to fit it in, they just know the phone sucks because it can't store 2-day worth of 1080p turtle swimming videos they took in their vacation. If they want to sell a 38MP camera taking 10+ MB pic each and 1080p video recording at 20Mbps with no SD slot, they better slap a 64GB storage on it.

I'm disappointed to see MS being so half-assed about WP, after all their yap-yap-yap saying otherwise. I want to see this platform succeed, but it cannot succeed if the team keep taking years to implement rotation lock, app kill switch, call blocking and all those mundane, _basic_ stuff that should've been there from day one.
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1. You're right, average Joe doesn't care. But to me, 1020 isn't really for an average Joe, it's targeting a niche market.

2. If not mistaken, they are already doing that. It's just that even with the extra RAM, it still takes quite a bit of processing power to compress the photo from 38MP to 5MP and such processing, even with a quad core, I guarantee would still lag (it's an ARM processor afterall). That's why the best is still to have a dedicated image processor. You're right, WP team really is doh.gif I mean, come on man, how difficult is it to support more SoC? You're only dealing with Qualcomm, you're giving exclusive deals to Qualcomm so in return, I expect a lot of support (technically) from them. Wait until they start accepting other chips like TI, Tegra, Exynos and so on ....

3. Well, I have my SkyDrive auto upload on all the time, so for me, nothing to rant about. I can live without SD smile.gif

4. Wholeheartedly agree here.
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 9 2013, 10:43 AM)
How much longer do we need to wait for the mundane features?

oh the never ending waiting.  sweat.gif
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Well, given the recent leaks, I'd say end of year for GDR3?
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 9 2013, 10:50 AM)
What is mundane features?
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Mundane = boring ....

Boring features? I guess he meant necessary and basic features.

Like call blocking, sms blocking, rotation lock (I want this very much, everytime I tried to show a photo to people, it'd rotate) ... stuff like that
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QUOTE(ahnien @ Sep 9 2013, 11:38 AM)
call blocking and SMS blocking is already avail in the amber updates.
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Yea, I know it's available, just saying, it took them long enough though.
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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Sep 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
Ahh... Bluetooth. They were saying something along the line of "We had no idea Bluetooth is such an important sharing mechanism in the world. We don't see many people use it in North America except for pairing accessories." Classic. doh.gif
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Agreed. I literally facepalmed when I read about that few days back.

On top of all these, my biggest gripes, only able to attach 1 file per email? I mean, really? What the heck were they thinking? Whoever implemented that half assed feature should get fired, right away. Another thing, the bloody wall garden in the name of DRM. There's no away developers could access the video library, absolutely, NO WAY. WTF? I can't even share a video I recorded on Whatsapp eh?
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It's official. Sept 19 it is.
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 11 2013, 04:52 PM)
What?!
Have to wait lagi to get the phone?

mwtang Really have to wait lagi?
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I don't think so. The phone would be immediately available for purchase. Remember L900 launch event in Pavilion? I suppose it's the same, in fact, if you attend the event and purchase on the spot, you'd get some freebies thrown in. It was Monster headset back then, probably camera grip + wireless charging shell now? Or even a wireless charging plate? Either way, I'll be there if I don't have appointments to attend to.
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QUOTE(LightningZERO @ Sep 11 2013, 05:05 PM)
http://www.lowyat.net/2013/09/11/12609/nok...for-our-market/

It is just media event on 19/9/2013, not launch event though
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Last paragraph, "We expect all these information will be revealed at the launch event next week. So, do stay tuned with us for all the juicy details of Lumia 1020 release in Malaysia as well as our initial hands-on experience with the device on that day."

So either he's hinting something, or he's confused. Either way, let's see.
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 11 2013, 05:09 PM)
launch.....

sigh. got not so good news..
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 11 2013, 10:13 PM)
Launch on the 19. That's the good news . Confirm . Am going.

Not so good news , pricing
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As expected. I'm expecting RM2,499 smile.gif

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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Sep 11 2013, 09:14 PM)
anyone got nokia sms 16% off from 13th sept - 16th sept for lumia 925 and 625?
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Yea I got it too ... Hmm ... Tempting now
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QUOTE( - w u i k - @ Sep 12 2013, 12:14 AM)
Well I'm letting off extra stocks of L925 from Zitron at 1400 anyone interested can let me know.

Also well, this 1020 price its yet to be known, much rumor saying that it will be over 2k, lets just hope its not that bad =/

Rumor saying that Lowyat.NET's Storekini.com might've got something up their sleeve on this L1020, can't wait for next week!
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Nokia Store is running a promotion for L925, 1599 - 16%
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 12 2013, 09:31 AM)
summoning chapree!

RM(_)xxx

First figure, will it be a "1" or "2"?
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Definitely a 2. Last digit is definitely a 9. You figure out the middle 2 brows.gif

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